Please suggest me as i am in a big fix right now.... Which one is better----2 yr MBA from average bschool like ubs,nirma,tapmi,fore etc etc or executive mba from gud bschools like sp,great lakes etc etc...
I am asking this because i have got calls from nirma,fore but now confused whhether to take it or go for executive MBA......
My suggestion:
1. A bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush. I think Nirma is a great school. No reason why you should chuck it up.
2. 1 year MBA is NOT executive MBA.
3. You have said nothing about your profile so it is hard to comment.
Note for all - if you require us to provide you with a nice answer then please take some pains to post the questions. Try to walk us through your profile (numbers such as workexp, education, GMAT etc) as well as your specific questions (not "how do I study for the gmat", "how to apply" etc)
1)ISB 2)SP jain(PGCIM or global MBA) 3)AIM manila 4)some good B-schools in US like wharton 5)INSEAD 6)queen's college canada and other B-schools in canada 7)some good B-schools in UK some good B-schools in geramny
1. You have pretty much put the entire world here - India, APAC, US, Canada, UK, France, Germany. Bhai toh baaki kya bachaa?
2. Please don't bank on a "scholarship" while planning to finance your MBA. However with your budget look at Indian schools + maybe APAC.
3. Try to score as high as possible on the GMAT - it will always help your cause in the case of scholarships.
I am Siddharth. I am currently pursuing Masters in Telecommunications at George Mason University, US. I have a GPA of 3.4 and will be graduating in May 2012. Would be working for 2-3 years before I apply for MBA. I would like to know which Universities should I target for and how should I be preparing to get into top 10 Universities.
Bhai - though I appreciate your proactive interest you are way too early. Since the main reason to do an MBA is job-related my advice is to first start working. Once you have a few years of experience below your belt you can further understand WHY an MBA will help you. Then you can decide, WHERE, WHEN, and HOW.
The schools you have mentioned are certainly good but competitive. So a lot will depend on the work experience factors. Frankly EC is fluff compared to what you do at work so ensure you do that well. Some things to note:
1. Build good relationship with superiors - this can help you in your recommendation letters.
2. Try to get out of job promotion - schools are a sucker for fast career progression.
3. Get diverse roles & responsibility - try to show cross-functional exposure.
4. See if you can travel to other countries - cross-cultural exposure is also great.
Once you have done this AND taken the GMAT - revisit us in 2015 we can take it from there
Don't assume we're going to hold back our punches just because you ordered the MBA MAP 😃
Having said that I have to admit...pretty strong profile you've got there. .....
If the schools say Yes, then there should be absolutely NO discrimination between your 760 and another 760 that is more recent.
If they say no, then you have 2 choices: - drop the school from your list - rush through the GMAT process again at the last minute
Neither of the last 2 is a pleasant situation to be in. So I'd suggest shooting off those emails right now.
Btw, Kauffman Foundation is a fantastic place to do an internship for someone with your aspirations. I'm not sure about the 10 week program though. It may give you brownie points, but won't be the same as getting into their highly competitive internship program.
I've got some stuff to share with you about your other details. But as you've already placed your MAP order on the PG shop, no point in going overboard here. We'll tackle the details in a structured manner once we initiate the process and we've had a chance to test out your essay writing and interviewing skills. You should have received the MBA MAP Starter Kit in your inbox.
- Sameer MBA Crystal Ball
Sameer Sir
Agar punches se bachna hota, to I wouldn't have ordered MAP.. I guess its better to get bruised right now than later..
Most of the schools do have a question in their Admissions FAQ section about "How long is the GMAT score valid?" and all the schools I am targeting have the answer as 5 years.. I think IIMs have the 3 year criterion for their 1 year program. Worst case, I'll have to drop IIMs from the list. I'll still go ahead and drop rest of the schools emails to cross verfiy.
And thanks for your kind words, about my profile. As for the Kauffman thing, it was more of a workshop for Idea to Business Plan, not the internship.. anyways, brownies are always good. I am still working on the MAP essays.. Hope to finish them soon, and get more feedback from your side..
I understand that the avg age in MBA program is 28 but is 32 too old to be in a top MBA program? Thanks.
For many top schools, you'd be above the average. But if you have the right reasons for attending a top MBA program, can choose the right programs and can put in a strong application, you will have a chance.
Sharing with you my profile, just wanted to take your perspective on what are the right schools I should target and overall chances of getting through them.
GMAT: 740
UG: BE from University of Delhi; 67% (don't have GPA but for perspective this is about top 30% of the batch)
PG: MBA(majors Marketing) from an IIM, GPA 6.5/9, again can't convert to a standard GPA.
Work Exp: Working in a large FMCG as an Assistant Brand Manager for 2 years, handling 5 countries and an overall business of about $50 Million. Based outside india.
Extra Currics: Very Strong leadership through out 6 years of college. At IIM was the was the elected head of the entire students body representing 600 students. Have headed teams of varying sizes from 2-100 for different student led activities such as National level Cultural Festivals in both colleges involving more than 2000-3000 participants from across the country. Headed the IEEE students chapter during Engineering.
Motivation for 2nd MBA: 1) 1st MBA without Workex hence while I able to learn new concepts was not able to appreciate it due to lack of work ex 2) Need a much more global & diverse group to learn with vs. what I got at IIM. 3) Career wise I see myself in a top Management consulting firm to broaden my experience in terms of both industry & problem; also finally heading big organisations in the long term.
Question: 1) where do you see me fitting in terms of school choice as per my career interests & my overall profile. 2) 1st MBA- what is the impact of my 1st MBA? positive or negative?
I want to know, whether experience certificate is also required for applying in ISB. I have not switched my job and have a work ex of 3 years. I do not want to inform my company regarding applying for ISB.
After MBA, I want to switch my field, I am finding a bit difficult to explain this in the 2nd essay of ISB (Where u find urself after 3 years of doing MBA from ISB?).
I belong to oil sector that to a PSU company, however in my company, I have worked in two very different profiles. Will it minimize my chances of getting a call from ISB?
I do not have a strong EC apart from some participations in my college. How much important is this factor?
My score in GMAT is 720, but AWA is 4.5 only (Is it a big problem?)
Hello everyone! this is sudhir ! im in the final yr bbm!was always a gmat aspirant frm past 3 yrs! some guy decieved me as i din know even a skeleton of info abt universities abroad! he told me to take gmat now itslef as the application process start 2 yrs ahead ! lol! so i took it ! he even told me they dont need work exp! so i gave a shot to gmat! got a score of 682 and an ielts score of 8.5 ! now everyones tellin me to work for 2 yrs and then join a b school! have so many questions to shoot at ! 1) am i doing the right thing by opting to work for 2-3 yrs and then join b school? 2) will my score be valid for that period? 3)As bbm is a 3 yrs course, i am damn sure that i am not eligible for u.s.a univ..so i need some info abt it 4) i don wanna join any univ in uk or oz! pl do let me know abt some other good universities i am eligible for afta 2-3 yrs! 5) im sure if i take up gmat again, my score will be more than 760 plus! will i be able to be eligible for top b schools in the world?
Sharing with you my profile, just wanted to take your perspective on what are the right schools I should target and overall chances of getting through them.
GMAT: 740
UG: BE from University of Delhi; 67% (don't have GPA but for perspective this is about top 30% of the batch)
PG: MBA(majors Marketing) from an IIM, GPA 6.5/9, again can't convert to a standard GPA.
Work Exp: Working in a large FMCG as an Assistant Brand Manager for 2 years, handling 5 countries and an overall business of about $50 Million. Based outside india.
Extra Currics: Very Strong leadership through out 6 years of college. At IIM was the was the elected head of the entire students body representing 600 students. Have headed teams of varying sizes from 2-100 for different student led activities such as National level Cultural Festivals in both colleges involving more than 2000-3000 participants from across the country. Headed the IEEE students chapter during Engineering.
Motivation for 2nd MBA: 1) 1st MBA without Workex hence while I able to learn new concepts was not able to appreciate it due to lack of work ex 2) Need a much more global & diverse group to learn with vs. what I got at IIM. 3) Career wise I see myself in a top Management consulting firm to broaden my experience in terms of both industry & problem; also finally heading big organisations in the long term.
Question: 1) where do you see me fitting in terms of school choice as per my career interests & my overall profile. 2) 1st MBA- what is the impact of my 1st MBA? positive or negative?
Hope to hear back soon. Thanks.
Hey Remember,
Have a very similar profile to yours: UG from DU, PGDBM from IIM, FMCG for 3 yrs and now handling imports in africa. OK, so the last part is not very similar, but still.
From what i learned in the discussions here, it is not too uncommon to do a second MBA, and it is better to do it earlier rather than later. someone recommended doing it before the barrier of 30 is breached.
When do you plan to give gmat? and in case it is not too personal, what campus and what company??
Presently aged about24 years ,completed my BE with good academic qualifications in Electronics and communications Engineering. I have passed out from GOOD COLLEGE in 2009 and then right away joined ,a premier telecommunications industry. To be honest , i had performed exceedingly well in the organisations ,solving critical business communication problems apart from playing an Incident Management role ,where i deal with end customer management and pacify the escalations whenever their business is impacting due to our products.I have also played role in expanding my team with new talent and setting up labs and so on.All this is done in 2 years. But the main worrying factor is there is no growth in this industry .My designation is "Customer support engineer".When i think of 5 years down the line i would become "Customer support engineer 2".I dont want to see myself on that role in 5 years ,as i do not think it would not fetch any value to my profile .This is the reason why i have quit my Job last week.
Fortunately , i have a job in hand from Central government in the defence sector.The organisation is CGDA(Controller general of defence accounts) ,The job relates with Pay and accounts of the defence sector apart from providing financial advices to the project deals of the military.Sounds interesting.Well it might add flexibility to me in choosing the subjects while i do MBA ,because if i join this Job , i get knowledge on the accounts as well.If it interests me a lot , then i might take up finance as my career.
Also iam on the lookout for jobs in private organisations which has value in what i do.
My queries are as follows 1)Have i done the right thing by quitting the job ,where i did not forsee growth? 2)What is your opinion ,if i take up CGDA job? 3)Is there any glitch in my clarity of thought when i said ,"Well it might add flexibility to me in choosing the subjects while i do MBA ,because if i join this Job , i get knowledge on the accounts as well.If it interests me a lot , then i might take up finance as my career." 4)Or do you suggest to lookout for other private companies , as you want to see students with relevent experience?
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So i would like your judgement to see and assess me in terms of experience/decision that i have taken
My academic qualifications: Xth---75 12th-96 BE -83
Experience -2 years of QUALITY experience in AVAYA (Telecom industry).2009-2011 I have got calls from XLRI and FMS last year but cud not convert them. I am sure of bagging good score in GMAT this yr ,but this decision is still haunting me. Kindly advice
Question: 1) where do you see me fitting in terms of school choice as per my career interests & my overall profile. 2) 1st MBA- what is the impact of my 1st MBA? positive or negative?
Hope to hear back soon. Thanks.
Firstly don't worry about the second MBA part. Schools in the US are aware of how Indians end up doing an MBA without experience. The message in your application has to be about "re-tooling" - about how you now know more to want an MBA to better equip yourself. However this story/message has to be pretty cogent since mostly MBAs don't teach "new" stuff.
Secondly your post-MBA goals of consulting - since you are in marketing (brand management), wouldn't it make sense for you to stick to your core competence? Just a thought.
I want to know, whether experience certificate is also required for applying in ISB. I have not switched my job and have a work ex of 3 years. I do not want to inform my company regarding applying for ISB.
Thanx in advance
Work experience certificate is not required upfront. You need to get recommendation letters from work - if you are able to do that then well & good. No need to inform (officially) no one does that. But hopefully you can get some supervisor to write the reco letters
Now to answer your queries:
1. Switching roles is a normal aspiration from an MBA. If you are not able to articulate you might want professional help from a consultant.
2. Different profiles that too in a PSU is pretty good - adds diversity and certainly won't hinder your chances.
3. EC is desirable but not a factor that by itself can keep you out.
4. Don't worry about 4.5 - the 720 is more important.
1) am i doing the right thing by opting to work for 2-3 yrs and then join b school? 2) will my score be valid for that period? 3)As bbm is a 3 yrs course, i am damn sure that i am not eligible for u.s.a univ..so i need some info abt it 4) i don wanna join any univ in uk or oz! pl do let me know abt some other good universities i am eligible for afta 2-3 yrs! 5) im sure if i take up gmat again, my score will be more than 760 plus! will i be able to be eligible for top b schools in the world?
Firstly there is no "682" possible on GMAT. Secondly apne "groan" kyon kiya on earlier post on this page?
Coming to your queries:
1. Work experience is not mandatory but useful in explaining your profile (answers to questions such as leadership/teamwork etc can be difficult without any experience). If you have been stellar at school in terms of extra curriculars or starting your own company etc then you might give it a shot. Read something I wrote about it here: "Is it in any way possible to get into a top MBA college abroad without any work ex?" | Facebook
2. GMAT score is valid for 5 years
3. Most places understand 3-year courses so don't worry too much on this. Best is to check with the individual schools before you apply. 99% of them accept it though.
4. You don't want to go to UK or OZ but where do you want to go?
5. 760 on re-take? I like your confidence However GMAT scores are no guarantees of an admission.
some good B-schools in geramny
However GMAT scores are no guarantees of an admission.