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aprofessor Says
I expect a 5% fall tommrow and i feel now we will sustained downturn to 12000 levels. 2008 era coming back :shocked:

naga25french Says
no wonders if it falls below that level too .. short term investments are getting narrowed day by day !


I don't think it will fall by 5%. In fact today sensex had lost about 500+ only to recover & close by 315 points lower.

I think sensex will fall to 14k max. Investors will start investing once it falls to such low levels & sensex will start rising again :hopefully:

Oh yes, I am always bullish :biggrin:

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Hi guys yet another bad day for Sensex

NSE nifty closed at 4923.65 209.60 (4.26%)

BSE Sensex closed at 16361.15 704.00 (4.30%)

Puys, Watch out for 4885 level, its a crucial support ...if nifty falls below it a good landslide of at least 150-200 points is possible in near term with next support coming at only 4620...a confusing pull back short rally will be there without saying...

Yet another day market closes in loss

16162.06199.09NIFTY4867.7555.90

BSE SENSEX
16051.1 110.96 (0.69%)


GOLD 25,405.00 -1,277.00

Hi guys yet another bad day for Sensex

NSE nifty closed at 4923.65 209.60 (4.26%)

BSE Sensex closed at 16361.15 704.00 (4.30%)


Yet another day market closes in loss

16162.06199.09NIFTY4867.75 55.90

BSE SENSEX
16051.1 110.96 (0.69%)


GOLD 25,405.00 -1,277.00


I think we all fallow the market and daily market ups and downs. Do you think we need to have history posted here on PG? Aren't there enough sites that do that?

Hi everyone,

My first post on this thread. I am an investor too.! I am not an active trader. I like to buy shares and hold on to them, until I get a better return.

Well, as per the current situation it proves the adage that "When the whore-house burns down, even the pretty girls have to run out", quoted by a legendary investor.

Though this year has been too much volatile and it may be the same till year end, these times are really favorable for all investors who like to buy "cheap".

I am looking forward to invest in Banking Stocks, you know why, coz that is where the money is

Hi everyone,

My first post on this thread. I am an investor too.! I am not an active trader. I like to buy shares and hold on to them, until I get a better return.

Well, as per the current situation it proves the adage that "When the whore-house burns down, even the pretty girls have to run out", quoted by a legendary investor.

Though this year has been too much volatile and it may be the same till year end, these times are really favorable for all investors who like to buy "cheap".

I am looking forward to invest in Banking Stocks, you know why, coz that is where the money is


Not to offend anyone, (so don't come out guns blazing on this stereotype ) but this is the first time I have met a person from Gujarat who says that he trades but is not into short term trading. Spent two years in the state and everyone I met who traded seemed to be into short term trading.

Nice to meet you. I am also a buy and hold kind of investor. I entered the markets on two occasions. 15 September 08 and 16 March of 09. I usually buy blue chips when the market falls.
Daemon_hunter Says
I usually buy blue chips when the market falls.


Blue chips can give very handsome returns, if bought in times like these.

I like the way the above 2 posters think. 😉

I think in these times.. when uncertainity is prevailing everywhere and sensex seems to be on a roller coaster ride, Buy and Hold strategy works best. Infact such times are best for investing with start up company shares becoz they are anyway not having that big stakes and if they appreciate in the future the benefits can be high.
Was jst ambling around when I found this thread. I am new to sensex and trading.. and found this thread interesting.

I am thinking of doing a NCDEX certified program on 'Commodity Trading'.
Please tell me if it will be beneficial to this program and the future benefits of it.

P.S- Post edited and the link removed since the comptt is over :)
Cheers!!! :cheers:

Infact such times are best for investing with start up company shares becoz they are anyway not having that big stakes and if they appreciate in the future the benefits can be high.


if some one looks for buy and hold , certainly one can watch out for nifty bees which is trading at late 400's level ..

What do you mean by blue chips? I started buying shares 7 months ago. I usually but shares of L&T;, ITC or RIL. I am keeping them until I join an MBA college and then I plan to use it as my pocket money for 2 years 😛 .. and hopefully my shares will be in profit by then. (I have a loss of 500 per L&T; share and I have around 40 of them. 😛

I think in these times.. when uncertainity is prevailing everywhere and sensex seems to be on a roller coaster ride, Buy and Hold strategy works best. Infact such times are best for investing with start up company shares becoz they are anyway not having that big stakes and if they appreciate in the future the benefits can be high.
Was jst ambling around when I found this thread. I am new to sensex and trading.. and found this thread interesting.



While I am a staunch supporter of the buy and hold strategy, I think the investment in small companies is over rated.

Most people have heard about the story of, if you had bought Infosys shares at the time it went public and just held them, it would have made you x lakhs through dividend, stock splits / bonuses and appreciation. (Moneycontrol | Wealth >> Stocks >> You could have been a millionaire today)

It is the traditional rags to riches story. However, I have a few major issues with the argument.

1) What never gets told is the number of companies that never made it big. There are lots of statistics that most of the start ups fail. I have a few friends who bought into small companies and the companies have just gone bankrupt. Unproved companies can provide go both ways.

2) The romanticizing of the story has people convert Rs 10,000 in today's terms. If I had 10k to invest in a unproven company in 1980 I would have already been in the top 1% of the country's earners. In 1980 people still talked in 4 annas and 8 annas. In 1992, we still had 5ps and 10ps coins. I remember saving them for Bubble gum and other small stuff. 10k was a princely sum.

Extending the idea above, to make any meaningful returns on 200% or 300% increases, the initial capital commitment is high. The 10,000 in 1982 (noted for Wipro) is 78,500 now. The 10,000 in 1992 for Infosys is approximately 60,000 now. ( For the mathematically inclined, the inflation index I used is COST INFLATION INDEX 2009-10 NOTIFIED SIMPLE TAX INDIA-ITR FORM -TDS RATE 11-12).

3) As anyone who has traded in the market will tell you, the moment your investment doubles or triples, it is a little difficult to stay unemotional. We think of the spectacular crashes that have happened and cash out with handsome gains of 200 - 300%. The problem is that seeing the investment go to 600% causes us to look back at 300% with disdain. No matter that 300% bought us 3 times as much as what we could have hoped to buy. We feel stupid and foolish at missing out 600%

Thus take a closer look at numbers offered to you and don't blindly follow the herd. Definitely aim for the stars. But realize the dangers lurking along the way.
teej88 Says
What do you mean by blue chips? I started buying shares 7 months ago. I usually but shares of L&T;, ITC or RIL. I am keeping them until I join an MBA college and then I plan to use it as my pocket money for 2 years 😛 .. and hopefully my shares will be in profit by then. (I have a loss of 500 per L&T; share and I have around 40 of them. :P


Blue chips are the companies that have established themselves. L&T;, ITC and RIL are definitely blue chips. When economic conditions are bad, they have the bulk to insulate them from going bankrupt.

The problem is that a lot of people move in and out of them because they are blue chips. As per Benjamin Graham: "In the short run the market is a voting machine. In the long run it's a weighing machine."

So it depends on when you plan to join MBA college. The long run defined by Graham was about 5 - 15 years. The minimum that the buy and hold strategy calls for is atleast 2 years.
teej88 Says
What do you mean by blue chips? I started buying shares 7 months ago. I usually but shares of L&T;, ITC or RIL. I am keeping them until I join an MBA college and then I plan to use it as my pocket money for 2 years 😛 .. and hopefully my shares will be in profit by then. (I have a loss of 500 per L&T; share and I have around 40 of them. :P


first L& T , i gues u would have bought it for 1700-1800 levels .. really a good buy .. u can buy even now if u have some more money .. after all its touch less than cat application form

i wont suggest you to sell it just for the sake of MBA pocket money .. take a loan if u need money ..

its a long term share.. it can reach as high as 3000 - 3500 levels

secondly bluechip stocks are the one which performs better even when there is adverse market levels .. need less to say its good when market is up and rising .. personally i am not huge fan of blue chip stocks .. stocks should be bought on research and not on the basis of safe factor

some of blue chip stock in india ..

private banks like ICICI , HDFC

AIRTEL

GILLETTE

MARUTI

RELIANCE

Nice to see some buy and hold(Value?) investors on this thread after a long time. This is an interesting piece that is quite old but adds to your conviction in times like these Op-Ed Contributor - Warren Buffett - Buy American. I Am. - NYTimes.com

Do guys here look for companies that could be companies of tomorrow? Considering the mood, say an Apple? Or is it blue-chip companies only?



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There is a line in your SOP that caught my attention "After all the biggest CEOs of the world Steve Jobs and Bill Clinton never went to a B School"
While I am a staunch supporter of the buy and hold strategy, I think the investment in small companies is over rated.

Most people have heard about the story of, if you had bought Infosys shares at the time it went public and just held them, it would have made you x lakhs through dividend, stock splits / bonuses and appreciation. (Moneycontrol | Wealth >> Stocks >> You could have been a millionaire today)

It is the traditional rags to riches story. However, I have a few major issues with the argument.

1) What never gets told is the number of companies that never made it big. There are lots of statistics that most of the start ups fail. I have a few friends who bought into small companies and the companies have just gone bankrupt. Unproved companies can provide go both ways.

2) The romanticizing of the story has people convert Rs 10,000 in today's terms. If I had 10k to invest in a unproven company in 1980 I would have already been in the top 1% of the country's earners. In 1980 people still talked in 4 annas and 8 annas. In 1992, we still had 5ps and 10ps coins. I remember saving them for Bubble gum and other small stuff. 10k was a princely sum.

Extending the idea above, to make any meaningful returns on 200% or 300% increases, the initial capital commitment is high. The 10,000 in 1982 (noted for Wipro) is 78,500 now. The 10,000 in 1992 for Infosys is approximately 60,000 now. ( For the mathematically inclined, the inflation index I used is COST INFLATION INDEX 2009-10 NOTIFIED SIMPLE TAX INDIA-ITR FORM -TDS RATE 11-12).

3) As anyone who has traded in the market will tell you, the moment your investment doubles or triples, it is a little difficult to stay unemotional. We think of the spectacular crashes that have happened and cash out with handsome gains of 200 - 300%. The problem is that seeing the investment go to 600% causes us to look back at 300% with disdain. No matter that 300% bought us 3 times as much as what we could have hoped to buy. We feel stupid and foolish at missing out 600%

Thus take a closer look at numbers offered to you and don't blindly follow the herd. Definitely aim for the stars. But realize the dangers lurking along the way.


Great post, I must say. In fact, if anyone has been in the market since even a few years would remember how even the stocks like Tata Motors were dumped by people in March 2009. The stock came down to 130 something and then the same stock was quoting at 10 times the price within 18 months! I had myself bought Tata Steel at 172 in Oct-Nov 2008 and then sold off at over 600 during 2010. Not bad, eh? So, yes there is a lot of money that one can make even in blue chips.


Patience is the key. Most people are quick selling off the share even at 10% profits. One can never make a lot of money in that fashion, in my opinion.