repeating again..
kindly throw some light on..
SREINFRASTRUCTURE..
KITPLY IND this stock is going upper circuit for last 5 days..
HIMALAYA INTERNATIONAL
SUPER HOUSE LEATHER...
tisco close at 644...days high 659...low 641...so with high vloumes it closes near days low when markets were 100 points up.....not good sign for near days.....wait ...just see next days....i think it should come to 620 levels where again buying may emerge.......don't buy this stock in the morning anyday...esp if volumes are low
let europian markets open at 2:30 n then track it ..n trade
look at sail for a short trade ...if 90 is sustained ... then can buy..it stayed in that 60 band for 3 years
so now downside an't much anyways ....low PE compared to peers..
more thoughts coming in just a moment..
thanks 4 da insite dude.....
I liked the thought of waitin 4 da European mkts 2 open.
thanks 4 da insite dude.....
I liked the thought of waitin 4 da European mkts 2 open.
thanks mate.................
all my learning is tribute to CNBCTV18
IT CAN TEACH WHAT MOST GOOD COLLEGES OF COMMERCE CAN'T...
thats why i believe in practical.... n not bookish keetabu stuff
u learn nothing unless u lose own money................then u learn....again u learn............n then u can spread the knowledge
personal advice.............alongside watching ARSENOL play at night...if u can change the channel n watch CNBC AMERICA ...after 12..............it will help
17 th may 12 am....arsenol v/s barcelona
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invest like Warren Buffett--------------
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As you can see, Buffett is a demanding investor. In most cases, a business must be experiencing problems to fall into his price range. We have scanned more than 1,000 companies using Buffett's initial screening criteria and found only 14 businesses that appear to meet all of his fundamental requirements. For each of these companies, which we've listed in Patience, patience, we have then applied three calculations suggested by Mary Buffett to determine trigger prices - in other words, buying prices that should allow for a 15% annual return over the next decade. (When the three calculations offered different trigger prices, we went with the lowest price to create the greatest margin of safety.)
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Our advice is to keep an eye on the stocks we've listed and patiently wait for the right time to leap in. By buying only the very best businesses at the very best prices, you will increase your margin of safety and reap benefits gallore.
well mate hi...
if u follow warren buffet .then forget about these stocks....
these are not hidden gems.....take my word!
rathi ispat.....global steel cycle n prices have already gone sooo much time for correction in near future...
ripple effect would mean these small cap ....yes rathi is a very small company...
will take the biggest hit...
china is producing enough steel rite now
so if u wanna trade in steel...... then go for TISCO on days of dips...
don't sacrifice on qualitu sleep....!!!!!
don't need to be emotional about ur stocks.....
regarding.....surana ...well already locked up circuit 2 days agoo ..posy stock split...
has risen in just 3 days to these levels.....there are better plays in telecom...surana i think has got some land..!!! n some rumour of idea deal!!
BUT RUMOUR ...if things don't work out it will fall ....veryyyy hard !! thats the game of stock market..
telecom...look at rcovl its fine....! if industry has to do well then reliance telecom stock will do well...no doubt ....u can;t have kings sad....n pawns dancing...!!!!!!
hope i helped
bye mate
ARSENOL V/S BARCELONA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!boy o boy ...will this be match or wat!!!!
LIFE HEDGER
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it happened....wat i told:wow:
hi catalogic.....mate....
as i warned u against these stocks.....
SURANA was down 9 % TODAY
RATHI has been coming down too.............3 % today....all that when all indices were up...today....anyways hope u didn't buy it
.......
DON'T touch cement stocke for next 2 days..mate
KAMAL NATH..... is going to have meet with cement producers on price cut.......on friday..........if u have positions cut it ...........or as i say.
..............".HEDGE IT"
HEDGER
hey guys,
I m new to this thread but not to the market.
I never saw this thread and luckily I saw it today and I said
here's the thing I was lookiing for.
Well market today nearly 100 points in north direction and there is no stopping MIDCAP.
My tips Buy - Arihant Cap Mkts, Ankur drugs and Su-raj diamonds
What say guys.
Byeeee
Jay
hey guys,
I m new to this thread but not to the market.
I never saw this thread and luckily I saw it today and I said
here's the thing I was lookiing for.
Well market today nearly 100 points in north direction and there is no stopping MIDCAP.
My tips Buy - Arihant Cap Mkts, Ankur drugs and Su-raj diamonds
What say guys.
Byeeee
Jay
hello n welcome here
read the previous few posts n u will realise what value we give to tips....
mate...............as a student community...we ere here to share stocks ..and the reason it should go up...or down......so please give solid fundamental backings for ur TIPS .................?
don't shoot in air or wat the street broker has said!!!!!!!!!!!11
anyways .....arihant is soooo small capish that no one would track that.
well anyways today it was up 10% BUT see the volumes pathetic 60000 for a 60 rupee stock......sorry no investing here operator activity?????....
suraj diamond has had a good run of late.........
but visvi gold diamond prices have reson....50% relatively world over...
also in this sector plays lke vaibhav...... n classic are in same boat
i will give my pick in the sector later with analysis......funda... n technical
regarding ANKUR DRUGS....stock has underperformed ...badly.......was 161 on 10jan
today 146........ made an aquisiton of VAIBHAV care.....
so lets see in future .....but technicals are bad ....really bad
to make money is not the only objective of us.....to gain goooood knowledge surely is one
LIFE HEDGER........(hedging forever)
Correction, had applied for 800 n ended gettng 100...
My simple golden rule...(Which every1 is aware of actually:) )...NEVER SELL an Index Stock or the stock that has every potential of breaking into the Top League...
Even I had applied for 800 and got 100 and Even i have no plans of selling. What might be the price of the share on listing??(Becoz I plan to buy a few more )
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it happened....wat i told:wow:
hi catalogic.....mate....
as i warned u against these stocks.....
SURANA was down 9 % TODAY
RATHI has been coming down too.............3 % today....all that when all indices were up...today....anyways hope u didn't buy it
.......
HEDGER
thnx dude 4 da timely reminder of not gettin in2 baseless stocks..............
they hav once again ended on da lower side......
n da write up on Buffet was like a da bang of a gong remindin me abt da fundamentals of good investin.............
jus bought some RPL shares 2de.....4 da long term obviously....................
was a good listin..........but didnt expect it 2 fall 2 da sub 80 levels(due 2 profit bookin).......however I have a feelin I can buy it arnd 75+ from whereon it may surge
ahhhhhh!!!
Sold RPL on listing but couldnt get rs 100.00!!!!!!!
No point holding rs 6000 worth of stock for long term.
Bought some though @ rs 85.00,
@ catologic, I wish RPL touches around rs 75, but think thats expecting a bit too much cause buying could come in bet rs 80-84 levels,
@Life Hedger, I know that Warren said "dont look at the tickers" and "buy good businesses" but the element of speculation and playing the odd mid caps and smaller or lesser tracked cos. and trading for that quick gain is part of any market and also the Fun part of it. As long as you know the risks involved and have HEDGED.:satisfie:
Nothing wrong with it as long its a small proportion of your investment and doesnt affect your portfolio a lot if the things get bad.
Sold RPL on listing but couldnt get rs 100.00!!!!!!!
No point holding rs 6000 worth of stock for long term.
Bought some though @ rs 85.00,
@ catologic, I wish RPL touches around rs 75, but think thats expecting a bit too much cause buying could come in bet rs 80-84 levels,
@Life Hedger, I know that Warren said "dont look at the tickers" and "buy good businesses" but the element of speculation and playing the odd mid caps and smaller or lesser tracked cos. and trading for that quick gain is part of any market and also the Fun part of it. As long as you know the risks involved and have HEDGED.:satisfie:
Nothing wrong with it as long its a small proportion of your investment and doesnt affect your portfolio a lot if the things get bad.
thnx dude 4 da timely reminder of not gettin in2 baseless stocks..............
they hav once again ended on da lower side......
n da write up on Buffet was like a da bang of a gong remindin me abt da fundamentals of good investin.............
jus bought some RPL shares 2de.....4 da long term obviously....................
was a good listin..........but didnt expect it 2 fall 2 da sub 80 levels(due 2 profit bookin).......however I have a feelin I can buy it arnd 75+ from whereon it may surge
hi gunner!
today was ..veryy bad..made temperary losses:sad:
also regarding RPL ....
i think unless some veryyy big FIIs come n latch up the supply...from here on atleast for few days upside is capped...
with every rupee rise u will see crores of trapped sellers(traders) who buyed >89 get out...lets see. 6000 crores of turnover on 1 stock:wow:
lets see..
i am already leveraged a lot....so won't buy..
hedger
hi gunner!
today was ..veryy bad..made temperary losses:sad:
also regarding RPL ....
i think unless some veryyy big FIIs come n latch up the supply...from here on atleast for few days upside is capped...
with every rupee rise u will see crores of trapped sellers(traders) who buyed >89 get out...lets see. 6000 crores of turnover on 1 stock:wow:
lets see..
i am already leveraged a lot....so won't buy..
hedger
BUDDY i am repeating again...as i would like to have some thought of urs on stocks that i hold..
SREinfrastructure..
Himalaya international
superhouse leather...
prajay engineers..
so do comment on what ever stock u have idea..
i am investing in stocks for last 3 to 4 yrs...trying to understand markets..ofcourse my engagement uptill now was sporadic..but hoping to see it smoothout evenly in future course of life..going for xlri-gmp..starting 06-07..
BUDDY i am repeating again...as i would like to have some thought of urs on stocks that i hold..
SREinfrastructure..
Himalaya international
superhouse leather...
prajay engineers..
so do comment on what ever stock u have idea..
i am investing in stocks for last 3 to 4 yrs...trying to understand markets..ofcourse my engagement uptill now was sporadic..but hoping to see it smoothout evenly in future course of life..going for xlri-gmp..starting 06-07..
ok mate ...lets see it..
SREI INFRA
52 week high 85... low 46...today 68 ..
volumes good ... up on 200 point down day..
+ves infra stock... looks good but strange that the high was in 2005 /9
why it is a laggard ?????????? ...can commit small amount...track it
SUPER .....house leathers
pathetic stock:shocked:
46 ..today down 3% 52 week high 65 low 28...disgusting volumes 8000???
stay away ....otherwise if some broker activity u 9???????
rest later...
bye
RPL !!! hows it going to behave for the next few sessions. hey hedger any idea on where it will consolidate? also is it intelligent to buy at dips for the long run?
also DLF ka ipo aane wala hai
RPL !!! hows it going to behave for the next few sessions. hey hedger any idea on where it will consolidate? also is it intelligent to buy at dips for the long run?
also DLF ka ipo aane wala hai
well mate
regarding RPL........
well it was an historic listing......see how
6000 crores of turnover on 1 stock....1.3billion $
highest f/o volumes..
every 5th trade today was mukesh stock
315000000 share traded
:wow:
closed at 85 high 100+..low 82+
coz a lacs of people must have purchased crores of share in the first 15 minutes when the stock was 88+.n got trapped........u will see these traders getting out...at every possible rupee rise...
unless some veryyyyy grand...FII enters the scene..which i doubt as there is a limit to FII....can't say though
otherwise it may just come close to 80....but i am sure won't fall below 79
why should it!!!!???if u want to invest ...then average ur purchases out ...buy now..some more on dips..n so on..
sense would say that max it shold go to 105 110 levels in next 4-5 months.....
remember...........NO BUSINESS AS OF NOW!!!
me won't buy ....as all my money. is already parked!!!
bye
hedger
RPL !!! hows it going to behave for the next few sessions. hey hedger any idea on where it will consolidate? also is it intelligent to buy at dips for the long run?
also DLF ka ipo aane wala hai
DLF.........
rest assured.......its stock will be as expensive..n desireful!...as its flats
in gurgaon
i mean 10% equity dilution for K.P. singh..and they are talking about 10000 crore of market cap at issue price..........
that will make his wealth 90000 crore..............
take my word.....watever price it comes at...watever..i mean..!!....it will close the first day with atleast 50% gain on issue price..
now do the maths n u will find K.P.singh easily taking over MITTAL
with 1400000 crore...i.e. 30 billion $.............boy o boy!!!
he will replace the steeltycoon
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n will be called CONCRETE TYCOON
well mate
regarding RPL........
well it was an historic listing......see how
6000 crores of turnover on 1 stock....1.3billion $
highest f/o volumes..
every 5th trade today was mukesh stock
315000000 share traded
:wow:
closed at 85 high 100+..low 82+
coz a lacs of people must have purchased crores of share in the first 15 minutes when the stock was 88+.n got trapped........u will see these traders getting out...at every possible rupee rise...
unless some veryyyyy grand...FII enters the scene..which i doubt as there is a limit to FII....can't say though
otherwise it may just come close to 80....but i am sure won't fall below 79
why should it!!!!???if u want to invest ...then average ur purchases out ...buy now..some more on dips..n so on..
sense would say that max it shold go to 105 110 levels in next 4-5 months.....
remember...........NO BUSINESS AS OF NOW!!!
me won't buy ....as all my money. is already parked!!!
bye
hedger
true yaar. no business now. so im thinking whether i shud park my money here or go elsewhere.
and hedger, regd. FII, ive heard that chevron is keen on picking up more??
hi
can anyone explain to me ..
voltas has given a dividend of 6 per share..
and it is proceeding for a stock spilt of 10:1..
the current price of the share is Rs 1050.00
so what does this mean will the 1050 be divided in 10 shares of 105 each???
hi
can anyone explain to me ..
voltas has given a dividend of 6 per share..
and it is proceeding for a stock spilt of 10:1..
the current price of the share is Rs 1050.00
so what does this mean will the 1050 be divided in 10 shares of 105 each???
ok mate....welcome...lets see
voltas .....tremendous run over last 5 months from 400 to 1000!!
dividend of 6 rs.... n stock split
for these purposes we have ex date n record date...
first ex date comes...2 days later record date//
check the dates
on the day of ex date..the stock will open 6 rs minus
the closing price of last dat.......
from then when the ex date for stock split is there. 10:1
the stock will be divided by 10....numerator being the closing price of previous day]
so u will get .... y * 10 shares in ur demat a/c automatically
but it takes 20 days atleast..y being the original shares
but remember.....buy atleast 4 days before the record date to be eligible for the split ..n dividend
disclaimer....just an amateur VIEWS....consult..professionals if doubt
bye...
hedger
hi
can anyone explain to me ..
voltas has given a dividend of 6 per share..
and it is proceeding for a stock spilt of 10:1..
the current price of the share is Rs 1050.00
so what does this mean will the 1050 be divided in 10 shares of 105 each???
Yes, if you have 1 share of 1050, then after the stock split, you will be havng 10 shares of 105 each. Dividend will be given before the split.