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rajsher Says
i think i ddnt convey myself properly. when do me as an investor come to know that i have got x number of shares of the IPO. Say the shares will start trading on 10th june. now tell me whne r the allotments disclosed to the investors.

got ur querry...hope thre is sum1 bettr dan me to guide u,well of wat i knw...u get d notification thru mail ....u'll get d lettr of how many shares have been alloted to u at ur place thru mail...got it?????
Eg:my dad applied for RPL IPO's...he got sum 300 shares alloted out of d huge lot he applied for...v got d lettr at r place thru courier..
hope i was able to b of lil help...sorry,me dun knw more dan dat.
rajsher Says
i think i ddnt convey myself properly. when do me as an investor come to know that i have got x number of shares of the IPO. Say the shares will start trading on 10th june. now tell me whne r the allotments disclosed to the investors.


Just chk ur demat account a day b4 the shares are due to start trading at the exchange, if they r there , you can start trading at the moment the exchange opening bell is sounded (or place bids for them- buy or sell)

Cheers

Tatha

In fact ... once the shares are in your Demat a/c you can transfer them to anybody's else's a/c even though trading hasnt started at BSE (correct me if I am wrong).

I am not sure about this, please check, after the closing date of the IPO, within 45 days (please check the numbers) the co has to allot the shares .. if it goes beyond then it has to pay interest to the applicant.

PS. not sure about the no. of days :p

*Consider the Risk factors in this piece of info. 😛

Crash!!!!! All global markets down so I guess this was inevitable

Yeh to hona hi tha, lekin aaj hi kyu?

Can anyone of you tell me this: if i apply for an IPO, then at what precise time will i get the the allotment of shares and can I sell the shares on the same day the shares are listed on the exchange?



According to SEBI guideline you should receive the shares withing 15 days of the closure of the book building process and allotment should be completed by the Registrar. In some cases it has taken longer and the listing of the shares is 3 weeks from the the closure of the issue. Yes as an retail investor you can sell the shares on the day of listing.

Today's crash to me was just another bad day with nothing in it's favour, gold prices shooting the roof and then crashing, other metals losing their shine, asian markets opening down and all of this has happened in the past but today was mainly triggered by people selling in panic.

In the end it was not that bad cause like I said before as prices of many scrips are what they were a month ago and if one invested a month ago would have been in decent gains.

What do you say fellas , this realty is turning into a big bubble, I know two of the heroes of it which are based near Kolkata, Bata and Hindustan Motors,both having land far off from the city ,so I am not so sure whether the price of developing land there will fetch them as much revenue as the markets are expecting. So lets be on our toes

Cheers
Tatha

In fact ... once the shares are in your Demat a/c you can transfer them to anybody's else's a/c even though trading hasnt started at BSE (correct me if I am wrong).

I am not sure about this, please check, after the closing date of the IPO, within 45 days (please check the numbers) the co has to allot the shares .. if it goes beyond then it has to pay interest to the applicant.

PS. not sure about the no. of days :p

*Consider the Risk factors in this piece of info. :p


3 weeks it should take to list once the issue is closed. so that's about 20-21 days

I wish they pay interest for the money blocked in IPO's:satisfie: , never come across such as scenario that and dont think they do,

Most allotments should be completed with 3 weeks else which I think SEBI would seek an explanation.
3 weeks it should take to list once the issue is closed. so that's about 20-21 days

I wish they pay interest for the money blocked in IPO's:satisfie: , never come across such as scenario that and dont think they do,

Most allotments should be completed with 3 weeks else which I think SEBI would seek an explanation.

I Guess, all my facts are fiction

:( 😞 😞 Should stop acting like a know-it-all :p

But I think this interest thingy is also within the rules .. please check 😐
I Guess, all my facts are fiction

:( 😞 😞 Should stop acting like a know-it-all :p

But I think this interest thingy is also within the rules .. please check :|


Dude, I dont think the posts were in anyway inappropriate, never claimed to know it all and will stand corrected otherwise.??:

I just shared my experience which is that allotment in most cases is complete within like 20-25 days which can be verified.:satisfie:

And yes did check (not in fine print though) that if the refund is delayed there is a clause that interest is paid which I dont think is the same for allotment period being delayed. And also checked with few friends in brokerages about whether its happened off late in any scenario and most arent aware so would be glad to know.

Will accept if I am wrong, was just sharing what I had in mind and that's it, which I think is perfectly ok.
What do you say fellas , this realty is turning into a big bubble, I know two of the heroes of it which are based near Kolkata, Bata and Hindustan Motors,both having land far off from the city ,so I am not so sure whether the price of developing land there will fetch them as much revenue as the markets are expecting. So lets be on our toes

Cheers
Tatha

With todays correction i think the real estate and cement as well as sugar sector have become really hot

I hv already put up my views on the real estate stocks earlier on this thread so they are big buys in days to come i think these stocks will become more than 10 times in 2 to 3 months.

Any opinion on the metal pack ...

Especially ... Tisco, Hindalco & Hindzinc.

PS. Anybody tracking HindCopper ? 😉 Take a look 😛

Can anybody tell me at this point which sector is the hottest to invest Or should i wait more?

Any guesses because i know that nobody can be sure about this market.

Any opinion on the metal pack ...

Especially ... Tisco, Hindalco & Hindzinc.

PS. Anybody tracking HindCopper ? 😉 Take a look :p

man i bought 100 shares of hindalco on friday @ 245

all these metal have crashed more than 10 % and this wil put them in shell even if market goes up these stocks wont be a part of that untill and unless the prices of metal ferrous or non ferrous starts to go up or they just increase the prices domestically

so my advice will be to stay away from metal stocks and get into cement, reality and sugar stocks.

hi all......
...............horrific day for traders esp..........

for all those people who think today was a correction..............well check ur terminology please!!

correction- as far as know is a smooth process of weeding out weak hands in a bull market...........that happens when after sharp runup.....the supply on a/c of profit booking is absorbed by demanding bulls........!

wat happened today was CRASH...................... yes ........its CRASH! wat else
500 points.......only once in our history have we fallen. like this..........!
and the reason says it all................it was triggered by GLOBAL FACTORS.
we were already weak for 2 days......then comes the slide of all ocommodities in the word MCX copper gold..alumn. zinc......simult.

in a correction.....there is a small...dicomfort..that also temp........
BUT
CRASH....like todays leave lots of lacs of investors in pain esp those in F/O or leveraged positions
only those will understand.....who loose big due to this.....unless u r HEDGED
..................800 POINTS IN 3 DAYS...............n u call it correction....GIVE ME A BREAK!!.......
no one will buy that SYMPATHY..........from anyone..................

its a KNEEJERK reaction...............which will now pigibag on global cues...
FII's have to cater to their respective clients in therir country so if demand of money comes from there u will see more induced selling here.......

at every attempt to pull back today we saw selling....................pattrern existent for 5.5 hours i must say...............n we have closed at the bottom.......
so technically we are weak for near future...allthough some respite may be coming........short term though.......
...
tonights . AMERICAN MARKETS is imp
DOW JONES..........n .... NYSE.........levels would be the key!!!


my own views.....n understanding as a passionate student n investor
ur welcome to disagree..!!!!!.
i will reply aptly......u bet!

.bye ..........
hedger

An article from The economist.....good read ....
source: http://www.digitaldalalstreet.com


The Fed has more to fear from inflation than from slower growth


IT WOULD win no prizes for elegant prose, but the statement that accompanied the Federal Reserve's latest quarter-point increase in interest rates on May 10th was at least clear. The central bankers are not sure what to do next. Further policy firming may yet be needed to address inflation risks, they said, but they added that the extent and timing of any such firming will depend importantly on the evolution of the economic outlook as implied by incoming information.
The Fed's desire not to tie itself down is understandable. After 16 consecutive rate increases, American monetary policy is no longer loose and there are signs that areas of the economy that are sensitive to interest rates, notably the housing market, are feeling the effects of dearer money. Virtually all economists predict slower economic growth in the months ahead, a view given credence by April's surprisingly modest pace of job creation. Because higher interest rates take a while to show their full effect, prudence suggests a pause. Otherwise the central bankers risk slowing demand too sharply.
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That said, the economy has hitherto been roaring along at a wholly unsustainable pace: output grew at an annualised rate of 4.8% in the first quarter of the year. Both labour and product markets are tight, global growth is looking ever stronger, commodity prices are soaring, the dollar is falling, and American inflation is already pressing against the limits of the tolerable.
The Fed's favourite measure of inflation, the annual increase in the core personal consumption expenditure (PCE) deflator (ie, excluding fuel and food), rose in March to 2%the most that Ben Bernanke, the Fed's newish chairman, feels comfortable with. On balance, the chances are that, over the next few months at least, the Fed will worry more about inflation than about slower growth.
Short-term technicalities provide one reason for this. Arithmetical nuances alone suggest that the 12-month core PCE deflator will hover around, or even exceed, 2% for a while. More important, the housing component of core inflation, which is based on rental prices, is rising.
A core inflation rate temporarily above 2% need not automatically raise red flags. It has exceeded that threshold several times in recent years. And, as economists at Goldman Sachs have pointed out, the Federal Reserve stopped raising interest rates in early 1995 and mid-2000 despite a modest rise in core inflation. Then, however, the general trend of inflation was downwards; now it is rising.
Then there are worries about Mr Bernanke's credibility. Wall Street is still getting used to the shift from Alan Greenspan. The markets may well become unusually nervous about the Fed's commitment to fighting inflation if it stops raising interest rates when core inflation is at or beyond a threshold with which Mr Bernanke himself is clearly associated.
Already there are signs that people expect higher inflation to persist. According to the University of Michigan's gauge, expectations for inflation over the next five to ten years edged up to 3.1% in April, slightly higher than the average of 2.9% in 2005. The expected inflation rate implied by the prices of indexed ten-year Treasury bonds has risen by 20 basis points to 2.7% in the past five weeks. None of this is startling, but it does suggest that Americans' belief in price stability is not as firmly anchored as the central bankers might wish.
And the pressure is likely to increase. Energy prices have been rising sharply. Last year's spike in fuel prices had little effect on core consumer prices, but things are different now. America's labour markets are tighter and its firms operating more intensively. The capacity-utilisation index, a measure of firms' slack, stands at 81.3%, the tightest since 2000. The unemployment rate is at 4.7% and average hourly earnings rose by 3.8% in the year to April, up from 2.7% a year earlier.
The sanguine point out that, because profits are fat, firms need not pass higher costs on to prices. But it seems they are already doing so. Economists at JPMorgan note that companies have raised prices, as measured by the non-farm business deflator, by 3.1% in the past year, two percentage points faster than in 2003. The impact on overall core inflation has been muted, they argue, by imports of cheap consumer goods and by a temporary slowing of the prices of services, such as medical care.

Which leads to another big uncertainty in the months ahead. What impact, if any, will a falling dollar have on American inflation? After rising during 2005, the dollar seems to be heading resolutely south, in part because the interest-rate gaps between America and other countries are narrowing. Central bankers in Europe and Japan are promising tighter monetary policy even as the Fed may pause. At the same time rich-world governments are calling on China to let the yuan appreciate faster, with America to the fore. This week John Snow, the treasury secretary, said he was extremely dissatisfied with the slow and disappointing pacebut his department refrained from accusing China of manipulating the yuan in its semi-annual report on currencies.
On a trade-weighted basis the dollar has fallen by 3.6% since the start of the year (see chart). Given the size of America's external deficit, a further drop is likely. Less obvious is what effect this will have on inflation. In theory a falling currency implies higher import prices as foreign producers pass its effects on to their customers. But these links are much weaker than they used to be. A recent study by Fed economists found that in the late 1970s and 1980s a 10% currency depreciation would have increased import prices in G7 countries by nearly 7%. Over the past 15 years the rise would have been only 4%, and 3% in America. The impact on inflation, the study concluded, was negligible.
That suggests inflation hawks have little to fear from a gradual dollar slide. But not everyone agrees. Richard Berner, of Morgan Stanley, suggests that the pace of depreciation matters. He points out that the dollar seems to be falling faster this year than it did between 2002 and 2004 and argues that another 10% drop in its trade-weighted value could push core inflation to 2.5%. How far and fast the dollar falls will depend in part on how financial markets view Mr Bernanke's concerns about inflation. The more sanguine they think the Fed is, the faster the likely slide.
With its most recent statement, the Fed has given itself some room for manoeuvre. But the chances are that dollar bears and inflation hawks will conspire to push interest rates up.

hi...

there was apost on real estate boom....n how buyable"" they were..
well there are good co.. n average co. out there...

lets see..
...rubymills.......volumes today 26 shares.................i want to buy please buy me !!!!??
12000 rs stock on circuits......same for swan mills ..but decent volumes.....
these stocks are "cornered "stocks by real estate pushers ../operaters...
who want to create "causes" for the "consequences!"

ansal is still fine......but who will get a chance to buy......

to say stocks will go 10 times from here is ridiculing either the market dynamics.............or the stock itself.......................
anybody......intodays RICH market......can manipulate ....their stocks....when volumes are in 100's or thousands at max........

a simple logic is if UNITECH is such a hit.......foe weeks....then why does some people sell 10000-15000 watever amt of shares as soon as market opens......why it opens at cicuit...............common sense would say it should not have any seller........................thats coz somewhere promoters are invoved..indirectly in diluting their holding......which they LEGALLY report to sebi afterwards....................
all the realty stocks have less than 2 % of float in the market...ie 98% of shares are with the owner.......................so..........!!!!!!

also most of these stocks...the 2 i mentioned are only BSE companies....which is not a good branding...example......in todays market good companies are listed on both exchanges.....


hedger

yep! check out RDB industries as well! I am a happy man. sold off most of my holdings last week ! Gujarat Ambuja, Dabur among others !

Only ITC and RCOVL remain in my portfolio will pick up some more tomorrow.

3i infotech is a great medium term story. It is trading at 12 forward P/E fiscal 2007. That is discount valuation. I expect the company to maintain a healthy 35-40% growth rate for next 2 years. At current price of RS 200, It is attractive. Stay Invested for 2 years (april 200 for the target price of Rs 485-515.


HDFC bank came in 1995 with price band of Rs 10. Pick up Yes bank and stay invested for 10 years..till 2015.
hi all......
...............horrific day for traders esp..........

for all those people who think today was a correction..............well check ur terminology please!!

correction- as far as know is a smooth process of weeding out weak hands in a bull market...........that happens when after sharp runup.....the supply on a/c of profit booking is absorbed by demanding bulls........!

wat happened today was CRASH...................... yes ........its CRASH! wat else
500 points.......only once in our history have we fallen. like this..........!
and the reason says it all................it was triggered by GLOBAL FACTORS.
we were already weak for 2 days......then comes the slide of all ocommodities in the word MCX copper gold..alumn. zinc......simult.

in a correction.....there is a small...dicomfort..that also temp........
BUT
CRASH....like todays leave lots of lacs of investors in pain esp those in F/O or leveraged positions
only those will understand.....who loose big due to this.....unless u r HEDGED
..................800 POINTS IN 3 DAYS...............n u call it correction....GIVE ME A BREAK!!.......
no one will buy that SYMPATHY..........from anyone..................

its a KNEEJERK reaction...............which will now pigibag on global cues...
FII's have to cater to their respective clients in therir country so if demand of money comes from there u will see more induced selling here.......

at every attempt to pull back today we saw selling....................pattrern existent for 5.5 hours i must say...............n we have closed at the bottom.......
so technically we are weak for near future...allthough some respite may be coming........short term though.......
...
tonights . AMERICAN MARKETS is imp
DOW JONES..........n .... NYSE.........levels would be the key!!!


my own views.....n understanding as a passionate student n investor
ur welcome to disagree..!!!!!.
i will reply aptly......u bet!

.bye ..........
hedger




whats ur take now...r there short term oppurtunity awailable...at the moment....

to ur comments on air deccan thou i agree that its too early to bet on aviation sector..but look at the peers in world..

air lines PE
Airtran 14
GOl==18.9
Ryanair==18.4
jetblue==88

ryanair and few r still making moneys but i do agree that its too early to take a call on aviation sector in india...

update on short term oppurtunity in blue chip...10 days max...

genus overseas electronics life hedgers and other whats ur take..i feel this will go to anyway around 400....
cryscapital bought at around 251 per share...quoting at 275...