GMAT Data Sufficiency Discussions

If x and y are non-zero integers and x + |y = 32, what is xy?

(1) -4x 12y = 0

(2) x| |y = 16



[QUOTE=rohitforever = 32
this is a rhombus with 4 vertices (-32,0) (0,-32) ( 32,0) & (0,32)
or it can be displayed with the delp of 4 eqns

x+y=32
x-y=32
y-x=32
x+y=-32

1=>
y=-1/3 x this is a straight line with negative slope hence it passes through
x-y=32 & y-x=32
on solving we get two points (24,- &(8,-24) so NOT SUFF

2=> this is the curve inthe form of >
1&2=> putting the points (24,- & (8,-24) in x-|y=16 both satisfies so NOT SUFF
So ans is E IMO
Rohit, Actually statement 1 is sufficient.

1. -4x 12y = 0
-4x = 12y
So...x=-3y

Now as we know x and y are non-zero integers, This tells us X and Y have different signs. ( -,+)

we can also say x| = 3|y

Using this and x| + |y = 32,

We can find that x| = 24 an |y = 8

Still we don't know which one is negative and which one is positive but since we know that they have different signs... we can say xy= - 192

Hence statement 1 is SUFFICIENT

Now :
(2) x| - |y = 16

Also we know that x| + |y = 32,
we can find that x| = 24 an y = 8

But we dont know their signs and we cant get any idea about that
so xy can be either - 192 or +192

So this statement is INSUFFICIENT

I will mark answer as A.

guys, plz explain.

How many factors does -2 have?

In the light of above question, plz solve the below.

What is the value of integer x
1. x has exactly two factors
2. when x is divided by 2, the remainder is 0.

Thanks!

guys, plz explain.

How many factors does -2 have?

In the light of above question, plz solve the below.

What is the value of integer x
1. x has exactly two factors
2. when x is divided by 2, the remainder is 0.

Thanks!


the answer must be option E

-2 is divisible by 1 and 2 to give you integer output, hence 2 factors.. hope that helps πŸ˜‰

For the below q

What is the value of integer x

1. x has exactly two factors ---> All prime nos
2. when x is divided by 2, the remainder is 0.-----> All even nos

Combining both the statements we get even prime which is 2.
I feel combining both the statements we can say that x is 2

If x and y are non-zero integers and x + y = 32, what is xy?

(1) -4x - 12y = 0

(2) x| - = 16



I'll go with C

1) Not Suff

-4x -12y = 0
-4x = 12y
we can say x = 3|y ... and x and y have opp signs..

2) x| + |y = 32
x| - |y = 16

solving both x = 24 ... Not suff..

1 & 2
combining both |y = 24/3 = 8
we know x&y; have opp signs so

xy = -192
If p q and p r, is pqr p?
(1) pq
(2) pr

I'll go with E

1)
either
p is -ve and q is +ve
or
p is +ve and q is -ve ..

r can be both ... Not Suff

2)
either
p is -ve and r is +ve
or
p is +ve and r is -ve ..
q can be both ... Not Suff

1&2)

if p is +ve ... q and r are -ve
qr is +ve ..pqr is +ve

if p is -ve ...q and r are +ve
qr is +ve ..pqr is -ve

Hence not suff
guys, plz explain.

How many factors does -2 have?

In the light of above question, plz solve the below.

What is the value of integer x
1. x has exactly two factors
2. when x is divided by 2, the remainder is 0.

Thanks!


factors of -2 are 2, -2, 1, -1

1) all primes .. not suff
2) all even numbers..

1&2) 2

Hence C

whats the OA ?
I'll go with E

1)
either
p is -ve and q is +ve
or
p is +ve and q is -ve ..

r can be both ... Not Suff

2)
either
p is -ve and r is +ve
or
p is +ve and r is -ve ..
q can be both ... Not Suff

1&2)

if p is +ve ... q and r are -ve
qr is +ve ..pqr is +ve

if p is -ve ...q and r are +ve
qr is +ve ..pqr is -ve

Hence not suff


Though Ans should be E, your reasoning is incorrect ..
Statement in bold is incorrect ...
P
It is E ...coz combined,
p is -ve and q & r are +ve, however qr 1 ...hence insuff ..
If x and y are non-zero integers and x + |y = 32, what is xy?

(1) -4x 12y = 0

(2) x| |y = 16


[QUOTE=rohitforever = 32
this is a rhombus with 4 vertices (-32,0) (0,-32) ( 32,0) & (0,32)
or it can be displayed with the delp of 4 eqns

x+y=32
x-y=32
y-x=32
x+y=-32

1=>
y=-1/3 x this is a straight line with negative slope hence it passes through
x-y=32 & y-x=32
on solving we get two points (24,- &(8,-24) so NOT SUFF

2=> this is the curve inthe form of >
1&2=> putting the points (24,- & (8,-24) in x-y=16 both satisfies so NOT SUFF
So ans is E IMO
Rohit, Actually statement 1 is sufficient.

1. -4x 12y = 0
-4x = 12y
So...x=-3y

Now as we know x and y are non-zero integers, This tells us X and Y have different signs. ( -,+)

we can also say x = 3|y

Using this and x| + |y = 32,

We can find that x| = 24 an |y = 8

Still we don't know which one is negative and which one is positive but since we know that they have different signs... we can say xy= - 192

Hence statement 1 is SUFFICIENT

Now :
(2) x| - |y = 16

Also we know that x| + |y = 32,
we can find that x| = 24 an y = 8

But we dont know their signs and we cant get any idea about that
so xy can be either - 192 or +192

So this statement is INSUFFICIENT

I will mark answer as A.

Post the OA please...

oa is A.
Well explained by pj

If x and y are non-zero integers and x + |y = 32, what is xy?

(1) -4x 12y = 0

(2) x| y = 16

Well.. this problem confused me. By definition , a factor a positive integer which could divide a number evenly. Thus, according to me, -2 has only two factors : 1,2

Given that, the ans should be E.

But the DS problem that I posted here is in Manhattan Number Properties book, Chpater 10, Page 117 which says answer is C

I dont agree to this answer though.

the answer must be option E

-2 is divisible by 1 and 2 to give you integer output, hence 2 factors.. hope that helps ;)

For the below q

What is the value of integer x

1. x has exactly two factors ---> All prime nos
2. when x is divided by 2, the remainder is 0.-----> All even nos

Combining both the statements we get even prime which is 2.
I feel combining both the statements we can say that x is 2

factors of -2 are 2, -2, 1, -1

1) all primes .. not suff
2) all even numbers..

1&2) 2

Hence C

whats the OA ?

guys, plz explain.

How many factors does -2 have?

In the light of above question, plz solve the below.

What is the value of integer x
1. x has exactly two factors
2. when x is divided by 2, the remainder is 0.

Thanks!
guys, plz explain.


What is the value of integer x
1. x has exactly two factors
2. when x is divided by 2, the remainder is 0.

Thanks!


Ans C is perfectly acceptable ...
Conventionally , factors of a +ve no are +ve only ...
Its just like sq root of a no is always non negative or 0! = 1 ..

Also, if -ve factors for +ve nos were acceptable, then concept of prime nos also goes for a toss ...simple def of prime no is one which has only 2 factors, 1 and itself ..

So we say 5 is prime coz 1 and 5 are the only factors, and not -1 and -5, else every prime no would also hv 4 factors ...

Hence, St 1 : It is just any prime no ..not suff
St 2 : It is any even no ..not suff
Combined : it is even prime, hence 2 ...suff ..

Ans C

Solve this

Two missiles are launched simultaneously. Missile 1 launches at a speed of x miles per hour, increasing its speed by a factor of sqrt(x) every 10 minutes.Missile 2 launches at a speed of y miles per hour, doubling its speed every 10 minutes. After 1 hour, is the speed of Missile 1 greater than that of Missile 2?

1) x = sqrt(y)
2) x > 8

I thought the definition os prime is a positive integer which has only 2 factors.

Plus we are not cinsidering -ve factors of a positivie number. What we are considering is +ve factors( as factors as always meant to be +ve) of negative number.

Then I am right to say that -2 has two factors: 1,2.

And if I am right, then not C but E will be the answer. Plz feel free to object.


Ans C is perfectly acceptable ...
Conventionally , factors of a +ve no are +ve only ...
Its just like sq root of a no is always non negative or 0! = 1 ..

Also, if -ve factors for +ve nos were acceptable, then concept of prime nos also goes for a toss ...simple def of prime no is one which has only 2 factors, 1 and itself ..

So we say 5 is prime coz 1 and 5 are the only factors, and not -1 and -5, else every prime no would also hv 4 factors ...

Hence, St 1 : It is just any prime no ..not suff
St 2 : It is any even no ..not suff
Combined : it is even prime, hence 2 ...suff ..

Ans C

Hi Bizzare,
The factors of -2 will be either -1,2 or 1,-2 .It won't be 1,2

guys, plz explain.

How many factors does -2 have?

In the light of above question, plz solve the below.

What is the value of integer x
1. x has exactly two factors
2. when x is divided by 2, the remainder is 0.

Thanks!

I thought the definition os prime is a positive integer which has only 2 factors.

Plus we are not cinsidering -ve factors of a positivie number. What we are considering is +ve factors( as factors as always meant to be +ve) of negative number.

Then I am right to say that -2 has two factors: 1,2.

And if I am right, then not C but E will be the answer. Plz feel free to object.


Interesting discussion ...
Yes, i concur with u for def of prime ...

And if we discuss prime factors of -ve nos, then by fundamental theorem of arithmetic , every integer greater than 1 can be expressed as unique product of prime nos ...
Fundamental theorem of arithmetic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, again prime factorization is conventionally restricted to finding factors of +ve integers only ...

So, in St 1, x has exactly 2 factors indirectly tells u that that x is + ve and prime only, So i guess discussion of factors of -ve nos does not arise ...

Bhavin/Deepak,

I am not convinced. A factor F of a number N is an integer which could divide the number N evenly into F equal parts. We can not have negative number of parts!
In short, as per my understanding, a factor is always positive.

Anyways, I think this dicsussion is getting too "mathemetical"
For now I reconcile myself with MGMat's explanation.

Thanks buddy!

Hi Bizzare,
The factors of -2 will be either -1,2 or 1,-2 .It won't be 1,2

I think it should be C.

After 60 mins, speed of x is x^4
speed of y is 64y

Question is whether x^4 > 64y

Stmnt 1: x = sqrt(y) => x^4 = y^2
Rephrasing the question: is y^2 >64y
Solving this equality we get
y^2 y^2 > 64y for y >64 --II

Two ranges of outcome. Not Suff

Stmnt 2: x >8
we cannot determine whether x^4 > 64y because we dont know about y. hence insuff

Combining 1 & 2:
since x>8 and y = x^2 leads to y >64

From II above, we know that y^2 > 64y for y>64. Hence sifficient.

Waiting for the OA.



Solve this

Two missiles are launched simultaneously. Missile 1 launches at a speed of x miles per hour, increasing its speed by a factor of sqrt(x) every 10 minutes.Missile 2 launches at a speed of y miles per hour, doubling its speed every 10 minutes. After 1 hour, is the speed of Missile 1 greater than that of Missile 2?

1) x = sqrt(y)
2) x > 8

Solve this

Two missiles are launched simultaneously. Missile 1 launches at a speed of x miles per hour, increasing its speed by a factor of sqrt(x) every 10 minutes.Missile 2 launches at a speed of y miles per hour, doubling its speed every 10 minutes. After 1 hour, is the speed of Missile 1 greater than that of Missile 2?

1) x = sqrt(y)
2) x > 8

end of hour

Speed of M 1 --> x^4
Speed of M 2 --> 64*y

option 1) then m1--> x^4 ,.....m2 --> 64*x*x
option 2) x > 8

combine both

x*x >64 so , Speed of m1 > Speed of m2
answer is : with both the options u cn solve 😐

One more: Sorry if this is repost.

if x^2 + 5y = 49, is y an integer?
(1) 1 (2) x^2 is an integer.