I am particularly interested in Business Analytics (combination of Operation Research and Data Analysis) as I love graphs, analysis, optmizing techniques etc... I admire the way Business Analytics can be used in varied fields like studying Consumer behaviour, Credit Modelling or to Supply Chain..
I have seen the courses for MSc in Business Analytics in Manchester, Lancester and Warwick Business School,
Its also there as MBA concentration in Chicago(Booth), Maryland and Purdue....
I have got 710 in GMAT and have 2 years of work experience till Date as Software Engineer in a Bank... I am from NIT Trichy where I had managed many events like Department Symposium, Tech Fest etc... In company, I hav introduced and implemented many Process Improvement Initiatives for my team..
While I would certainly want to lead the research and consultancy in Analytics in whichever firm I join later, I am not sure I should go for MBA with Analytics concentration now itself... As I thought I should work in that field before getting MBA or something If I feel it necessary later..
If you can please help me with the reputation of the MSc courses in above 3 mentioned UK Business School, then I can make an informed decision.. Apart from that I am more inclined to come back to India after my Masters, so how well will my degree from this UK universities be taken? And if they are not taken well here, what are the job prospects of MSc courses at other places..
Thanks in advance for all your help...
You seem to have a clear career goal, which is good.
I would suggest to have a look at courses offered by the LSE in London as well. Warwick is an excellent university, I would rate that above Manchester, forget Leicester.
Thanks for valuable inshights thus far as it seems you are the encyclopedia as far as the MBA prep goes..Hats off to you sir...
I am 27 year old BCOM graduate (2001) went for expereince than a plain MBA.. Joined ICICI group, worked for 2 years, moved to Bajaj capital and worked there for a year before moving to HSBC bank. HSBC has been successful right from the start i,e from Asst Sales Manager in Indore to Sales Manager - Personal financial services in Mysore and then to NRI Relationship manager Newyork..
I seriously wanted to pursue MBA from US but given the conditions there and the cost of studies I had to give up.. Due to some issues I left the US ( PERSONAL though) and now in India currently. I have now serious plans to go for higher studies after 7 years of Work ex either from the UK or the AUS... My aim is to take up assingments in client facet roles, econometrics, or in finance roles in the UK.. JCurrently,job is not an issue here for me but a solid contentual degree does matter with a prospective job ahead and I wanted to prepare for the right B school and spare a year that too outside India avoiding 2 yr courses and Ex MBA that ask me to join any bank or company again(employed) and approach them for selection.. I guess doing MBA from abroad especially from the UK will be good but which institute and scope over there is a question? Could you please throw some light on this issue and help me understand the same..
I am currently unemployed right now and willing to grab some kills during the mean time to approach the coming times with due dillegence rather than joining any bank and running for them.
WHat may be the expenditure I should estimate and the conditions of financial assitance if get selected from any top institute in the UK?I am considering around 5 years of stay in the UK with an aim to return back to India and start up consulting in financial planning business..
Your views will be appreciated..
Regards,
Krishna.
Why are you unemployed right now? You have good experience in retail banking and finance, and you should be maximizing or continuing that experience.
As for your career - Cambridge, Oxford, Cass should be good choices for you for a finance career in London City. Good GMAT, strong essays and a well articulated case for an MBA might see you pleasantly surprise yourself.
Hello everyone, I am a final year engg student pursuing a degree in computer science.I am in a very confused stage right now as I have no clear idea of what to do next.I know that I would like to do an MBA from a good college in US after a few years of working and gaining the required experience.I know that if I start working in the indian IT industry and then i later apply for an admission into a good business school i will fall into the same pool of applicants with exactly the same profile and will not have anything to distinguish my self from them. (BE IT male 3-5yrs of exp)
Now I am considering doing a masters course offered by the engg schools in the US and then working for 3-5 yrs. I am hoping that this would give me an edge over the other applicants and would get admitted into the top 10-15 b-schools in the US.It would also provide the oppurtunity to work at a better level.
This forum has a lot of usefull information and i hope to get usefull advice from the people present here.
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Stupid Question - Is IT the only career available for a fresh computer engineer?
Hey, I passed out of college(B.E-computer science and engineering) on may-2009. My joining is not until Jan-2010(Infosys). Sitting idle gives me a new thought everyday about my career. A very serious idea which has stayed for a bit longer in my mind is M.S in M.I.S in U.S.A by giving G.R.E(and TOEFL) I hate technical stuff beyond a degree(but love management to the extreme) 3days of research suggests MS in MIS is more management than technical. I need guidance from seniors about this
1)Is this really more or less equivalent to M.B.A? 2)Can I get into a good college like(texas A&M; university) without any work-ex? 3)Would 2 yrs of work-ex help me get better aid/scholarship? 4)Which are the other good colleges offering this course 5)Is M.S. in marketing more preferable?
kindly help me soon as am planning to take up GRE and TOEFl latest by October end Thanks a million
Unless I have missed the world completely, you're going to have to do pretty much the same thing most do - technical role 3-4 years, gain experience and functional expertise, achieve career progress then move to management.
Yes - do your research, but work in Infosys for 3-4 years before breaking out. To answer your questions:
1) Depends on university - the best possible equivalence to an MBA is when the university has a business school and a good quality engineering school coordinating the program.
2) Yes - but will it really help to get into a "management" role immediately on graduation?
3) Scholarships depend first & foremost on the availability of funds within a university to award and support students... How common is MIS??? Is it quantitative and research focussed enough for universities to commit research funding (which is where the scholarship / GRA money comes from)? I think not. After that, you have academic achievement, GRE scores, statements of purpose etc....
4) Top ranked universities having both a well-regarded business school and a strong school of engineering.
5) do you really want to do marketing or are you asking just because you think marketing is better?
Look, you're unsure of yourself. Don't worry about this now, you're 21 years old. Enjoy the next 4-5 months, and start your career with Infosys, gain experience, expertise and career progress and then look beyond.
First of all ,Thanks for excellent info posted on this thread.
I am 26 yrs / F with 4 yrs exp. in IT and a short 3 month stint in Europe. I require answers to some of the questions in my mind over future work/study. I have an interest on the finance side and would like to pursue a 1 year exec MBA in finance but it does not seem a good option right now due to the economic downturn. A second line of thought was to do an MBA which would not be a complete deviation from my 4 yrs of job.Probably an MBA in operations or in IB. But due to the current situation , I think ( but i am not sure) that the market for this is saturated in Europe. As per my analysis of the current scenario and from info gleaned from internet,techno managerial jobs are relatively easier to come by for non EU candidates fresh out of college. So the techno managerial courses as you mentioned in the beginning 1/2 posts in the thread seem a better idea. The good ones Georgia Tech / Stanford are US univs and at this point of time don't seem to be good options due to the Visa rules. I am not sure if pursuing a course from Europe such as from Telfts would be relevant only to Holland in the long run. I am done with the Indian IT service industry and need a change of track.
Please please guide me and correct me in my perceptions where I am wrong.
Thank you so much !!
Waiting for your reply !!
Sorry for the delay. Haven't been able to log in for several weeks, been busy with work.
From what I understand, you want to get out of the ITES industry, need a change of track and therefore a Masters Degree (MBA or other) to do so....
My advise is the same:
- What do you want to do with your career (function) and where do you want to be career wise 5 years from now (what sort of position)? For where you want to reach, what are the key skills required, what are you missing to gain those skills and what sort of education addresses the gap?
- what industry or type of company do you want to work in
- where (geography) would you like to work?
Unless you get these things straight, it will always be probably MBA this or Masters that or US or Europe or Stanford or Delft etc.. you will be unsure of yourself....
Another piece of unsolicited feedback - your "done with the Indian IT service industry" sounds huffy and disrespectful to the industry that gave you the opportunity right out of college, sent you to Europe and gave you the first leg of hopefully a long & successful career. Surely the industry has given you something in 4 years?!
how good is the masters in scm programme offered by Ross. Considering the fee, does it have a good ROI. is the course worth the effort for a guy with three yrs experience... thanks, vishnu
Ross U-Mich is an excellent school so you can feel confident of the quality of the education you'll get. Question - before even thinking of an ROI, are you motivated for a career in SCM going forward? Do you have the mental strength and motivation to take on the challenges of finding your dream career going forward? THat will determine the ROI, not the quality of the program itself.
Good luck, am sure this is an excellent high quality program.
I am interested to apply to MSc Operational Research at LSE this year.
I am a 4th year , Computer Science engineer from BVP new delhi( top 4 colleges in Delhi) Can you please give me some pointers for application... the process , any exams to be taken .. The application process starts on 1st October
What are the job opportunities after this course? I checkout the LSE site , it says the cost would be around Rs 9 Lakhs . I'll be on a students loan. So thats imp for me.
Hi everyone, before getting into the complexities, it is extremely important to understand what it is that you want i.e. what are the most important factors for your choice of school and programme. Everyone applies distinct weights to every factor. This little excercise might help you understand yourself better MBA_factors
I am interested to apply to MSc Operational Research at LSE this year.
I am a 4th year , Computer Science engineer from BVP new delhi( top 4 colleges in Delhi) Can you please give me some pointers for application... the process , any exams to be taken .. The application process starts on 1st October. What are the job opportunities after this course? I checkout the LSE site , it says the cost would be around Rs 9 Lakhs . I'll be on a students loan. So thats imp for me. How is the course overall ? Thanks Regards Aayush
LSE has an outstanding reputation, and nearly all programs are pretty much top draw. Bigger questions (for you to answer for yourself) are:
1) why Operations Research! Try & understand what ops research (talk to your college mates doing Industrial & Production Engineering for example), 2) why is it interesting for you? 3) Why do you want to go to LSE now over getting a job and toiling the first 3-4 years of your career out of college?
You'll need to articulate this on a statement of purpose essay, alongside a good academic record + a good GRE or GMAT + IELTS / TOEFL score as required by the college. Do that well, and you'll get an admit.
INR 9L is not a bad deal for a foreign univ and a 1 year program. If the work permit environment is student friendly, you'll at least be given the time to find a job in the UK after the course (how easy is dependent on the economy).
Dear Baccardisprite, First of all, thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge in form of answering our queries. I am in bit dilemma regarding my career. I am an energy engineer working with a MNC at Noida. I have around 5 years of work experience in two different companies as Field Engineer and Project Engineer. My job has given me good exposure to Energy industry and particularly to Construction Engineering. I have a undergraduate degree in Power Engineering ( an interdisciplinary program with judicious mix of electrical and mechanical) and I want to advance my career in this field but with added responsibilities. Now my dilemma is
I have secured admission at Krannert school of Management, (Purdue Univ. without any scholarship.). In current economic scenario investing 40 lakhs at Purdue for MBA, will it be a worthwhile investment.?
I have searched few courses in UK namely Msc Supply chain/operation/project management at Manchester Business School and Engineering /Operation Management at (Warwick). They will cost me around 20 lakhs. How good are these programs and how do they compare against the previous option (Purdue).
There are few programs offered by Grand Ecole, Nantes (France) like Project Management in Energy and Environment Engineering (PM3) and ME3. Do you have and idea how good these programs are? They are of two years duration and 6 month industrial internship( with total expenses below 20 lakhs). What prospects they will offer to my career?
Suppose I manage to get a seat at MDI or similar ranked institutes (EXECUTIVE MBA), will it make sense to consider it as better option over Purdue / Msc from MBS/Warwick?
My short-term goal is to work for 2-4 years abroad, once I recover my investment I would like to settle down in India. I am looking forward to your answer. Thank you for the patience in going through my long mail. Regards, Digant
Hi I just read your post about avenues beyond MBA which was very intersting indeed.I am myself trying to veer myself into something which will make me switch the field i am working in, enhances my career prospects and is not an MBA.Its something in it that always put me off as in i never wanted to be an enterprenur. Now i am just testing waters here with lots of different things.One of the courses that has caught my fancy is Masters in Business Law.I have tried my hand at a 1 year part time PG course in IP at NLSIU Bangalore which i couldnt complete but it somehow has fueled my interest in this field. Can you please advise me how would this switch be professonally viable considering me switching from IT field (4 years exp) to law.Are there any colleges that would take me in to their MBL programs full time.If yes which are they and how can i go about preparing for them. Your advise would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
I am a 4th year LLB student, and currently subject to the pain, i.e MBL:banghead:
from the people who are done with it, it is a great course only if you really know what you are getting into, say for you in my limited capacity Business Law's would help, you with compliance in Capital markets. There is a full time MBA with Law as a Major at NLU, jodhpur for which you would have to clear a entrance exam, but for one thing it should be worth all the effort as your are interested in the subject.
I am extremely happy to come across this thread and really appreciate the good work which has been put in by you in keeping it going.....
Actually i have been in a fix for some time now regarding the career options i have.........i am a B.tech with one yr of experience in family business (which we had to part off with due to division in the family) and then a post graduate diploma in management (MBA) from a b-grade school and then another one year of experience in financial services industry (sales/marketing).
Now i feel i need some international exposure and also want to change my profile into a more financial research based one.
I m currently preparing for my gmat and apart from 1 yr mba programs i m also considering some of the programs mentioned below :
LBS - M.Sc. Finance Imperial College - M.Sc. Risk Mgmt and financial engineering(more interested) LSE - M.Sc. Finance, M.Sc. Finance and Economics, M.Sc. Financial Mathematices (more interested) Said - MFE (Masters in finance and economics) Cass - M.Sc. Finance (Not very sure - please advise) Warwick - (Not very sure)
I am mainly interested in schools in and around london because i guess looking for a job would be much easier....
Please advise me what would be the job prospect for each of the above schools and courses. How would you rate them on the basis of ROI??
And anything else that you would like to share..........
I am looking at courses with substantial finance component and hence have decided to apply to the following schools for Fall 2010: 1) MIT Sloan - Master of Finance 2) LSE - MSc Finance & Economics 3) Oxford Said - MSc Financial Economics 4) HEC Paris - MSc Financial Economics 5) IE Business School - Master in Finance
I am currently a final year student at LSR pursuing economics honours. My profile is as follows:
I am looking at courses with substantial finance component and hence have decided to apply to the following schools for Fall 2010: 1) MIT Sloan - Master of Finance 2) LSE - MSc Finance & Economics 3) Oxford Said - MSc Financial Economics 4) HEC Paris - MSc Financial Economics 5) IE Business School - Master in Finance
I am currently a final year student at LSR pursuing economics honours. My profile is as follows:
Could you please comment upon whether my choices are realistic and also on the programs too?
Hi..!!
Considering your profile.. (high GMAT, pretty decent acads... Excellent Ex-cur) your selection seems to be perfect.... these are among the top colleges in the world offering Msc.. right after the under grad..... if you wish to consider... any other colleges... or similar options.. u can look for
MFE a very reputed course from Berkley Hass.. take a look..!!
MS in Finance (offered by some top american Universities)...
Few more UK colleges.. warwick.. Cass.. Judge ( M Phil).. Manchester...!!
Untill I recently, I was planning on an MBA abroad as a path to fulfillment of my career objectives but thanks to your posts, I have discovered better alternatives. Let me pull up the relevant details for you:
1. Education: B.Tech. Biotechnology (2009) with CGPA of 8.20; additional courses in IPR (WIPO) and QMS (BSi).
2. Work ex: Started recently as a GET at a global biosupplier major. Landed the job off-campus without any reference through a maze of interviews, technical discussion and aptitude test. Got placed in an IT company through campus recruitment but yet to get a joining date.
3. Career Plans: Technology assessment/management and policy analysis/formulation, especially in therapeutics and biosupplies (already working in this domain). I understand these terms are too hot-shot for a beginner but with continued learning, I intend to get there sooner rather than later. What I know is that this is the domain I would work best;first industry-then consulting-and finally finishing off in academia.
Possible career focus being on technology transfer to emerging nations (life sciences again), uniform dissemination of technology products(vaccines, nutraceuticals). Some more avenues to explore. Admittedly, the specific domain is still tentative;when make a decision when I have learnt enough but yes, therapeutics is an area of keen interest.
4. Courses: TPP (MIT) and EPA (TU Delft). Also exploring CMU and Stanford. Already speaking to MIT and Delft and discovered that what they teach and what I want to learn fit.
5. Why this career: A sincere interest in assessing technology as a function of society and vice versa, Swami Vivekananda(his thoughts are a very strong influence), Childhood ex (presenting national level award-winning techno-social projects since age 10).
6. Acads: Good except +2.
7. Extra and co-curricular: Lots; Award-winning projects Projects, Summer Research ex at top industry n govt. labs (Ranbaxy and NCCS), Head of Lit Comm in College, Cheif Ed of College Magazine, Coordinator of Corporate Resource Centre, Working with a Scientic Foundation (NGO) for past 1.5 years, Achiever's award in 'Excellence in Knowledge Creation' from University- intention to play it well as preparation for prospective career, National Topper in English in CBSE Boards (0.1% certificate), etc.
8. Other stregths: Am sure of what I want to do (preparing since 2nd year of college), Have established decent contacts in industry n govt. sector and learning from them, strong hold over written n oral english, persistent (wrote to so many ppl that facebook suspected me of being a spammer).
9. My questions:
i. How can I make my profile more engaging? Joining international comm. is an option but I don't have the fees to pay.
ii. I have some basic knowledge of German. Would building on that be of any advantage?
iii. I plan to apply for the fall 2011 session. EPA and TPP say such experience would suffice. Is that actually so?
iv. Are there any organizations regarding technology (life science specially) and policy forums of which I can be a part without burning a hole into my pocket?
v. How can I be more market-savvy? I religiously dig to business mag, IBEF etc.?
vi. Any specific DOs or DONTs regarding the application process, specially the TPP?
vii. While the EPA program is good, the employment scenario post-graduation is not clear. Your opinion on the same is deeply solicited.
Hi Baccardisprite , I chose to reply in the same post as many questions are similar I'm new to this thread, I was also just a confused passed out graduate working in IT around 6 months back, After lots of research, talking to experienced people and understanding myself, I've become much more clearer in my career goals,
I have lot of interest in finance, economics and corporate markets etc, My parents are bankers and I've been following Economic data and the stock markets etc for around 2-3 years.I'm also pretty interested in business analyst roles related to finance rather than other fields.
Profile: X- 81% XII - 92.5% B.Tech(EEE) from SASTRA University- CGPA of 8.52,
Work- I am working in TCS for the past one year, Even during the training I volunteered and had responsibilities of the lass representative. I 'm working with Citi cards and got to know a little more about credit card businesses due to the project, I'm not very satisfied with my job right now as its pretty dull ,not very challenging and prospects for growth are also less (also because of interest to move over to finance related jobs), I've organised sports tournaments in College and participated in quite some extra curricular activities like involving in publishing department magazine, and being a member of the EEE student council etc
I'll be giving the GMAT in december , I've been preparing for one week now.
I'm considering a Masters in Finance,financial economics, quantitative finance and am considering applying to HEC , RSM with CEMS(Rotterdam), ESCP-EAP Grenoble, Cass and Stockholm School of Economics in Europe.
My goals include staying and working abroad for quite a long time (10 years)
1. What are the career opportunities like, for HEC, LSE, RSM and ESCP-EAP?, I'm particularly interested in HEC(MFE) and Grenoble(As I have a basic knowledge of french(4 years in School, largely forgotten though) and love the language)
2. I'm very particular on getting good jobs and its on the top of my priority,
3. How would a Masters in International business from Grenoble Fit? ( As it gives a decent footing on general marketing,management also)
4. I would be taking a loan only to finance my studies with little assistance from parents.
5. What is the working visa situation like, if an Indian national wanted to work in the EU after graduation?
6)Should the youth unemployment rate(Europe and US) which is alarmingly high be a concern for graduates from pretty good business schools after 2 years( who fall under the highly skilled category) ?
6) I am a little reluctant(mainly due to cost) on schools in US (though would love to go there as education is really good and also the discrimination is less during job selections) , can you suggest any?
I Plan to apply for the Fall 2010 programs or Jan 2011 programs if any.
I really appreciate any guidance you would give me . Merci beaucoup!
..an energy engineer working with a MNC at Noida. ..5 years of work experience.. Field and Project Engineer... My job has given me good exposure to Energy industry and particularly to Construction Engineering. I have a undergraduate degree in Power Engineering ( an interdisciplinary program with judicious mix of electrical and mechanical) and I want to advance my career in this field but with added responsibilities. Now my dilemma is
I have secured admission at Krannert school of Management, (Purdue Univ. without any scholarship.). In current economic scenario investing 40 lakhs at Purdue for MBA, will it be a worthwhile investment.?
I have searched few courses in UK namely Msc Supply chain/operation/project management at Manchester Business School and Engineering /Operation Management at (Warwick). They will cost me around 20 lakhs. How good are these programs and how do they compare against the previous option (Purdue).
There are few programs offered by Grand Ecole, Nantes (France) like Project Management in Energy and Environment Engineering (PM3) and ME3. Do you have and idea how good these programs are? They are of two years duration and 6 month industrial internship( with total expenses below 20 lakhs). What prospects they will offer to my career?
Suppose I manage to get a seat at MDI or similar ranked institutes (EXECUTIVE MBA), will it make sense to consider it as better option over Purdue / Msc from MBS/Warwick?
My short-term goal is to work for 2-4 years abroad, once I recover my investment I would like to settle down in India. I am looking forward to your answer. Thank you for the patience in going through my long mail. Regards, Digant
I am sorry for the delayed response. There're times when I'm unable to log into PG for weeks.
Seriously a good profile. Happy to see your passion to advance in your field.
Instead of any of these - have a look at:
- MIT's Engineering Systems Division (esd.mit.edu), LFM or TPP program. Strong interdisciplinary engineering, technology & management level programs. You have the profile and apparently the drive as well. Have a go.
Hi I just read your post about avenues beyond MBA which was very intersting indeed.I am myself trying to veer myself into something which will make me switch the field i am working in, enhances my career prospects and is not an MBA.Its something in it that always put me off as in i never wanted to be an enterprenur. Now i am just testing waters here with lots of different things.One of the courses that has caught my fancy is Masters in Business Law.I have tried my hand at a 1 year part time PG course in IP at NLSIU Bangalore which i couldnt complete but it somehow has fueled my interest in this field. Can you please advise me how would this switch be professonally viable considering me switching from IT field (4 years exp) to law.Are there any colleges that would take me in to their MBL programs full time.If yes which are they and how can i go about preparing for them. Your advise would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
Not unheard of! But my familiarity with the field of law is extremely limited. What I would suggest is to look for programs in Law that cater to the high-tech, precision engineering industries.... - something like Masters of Technology Law or something like that. Business Law in itself may not necessarily be enough.
Sorry for the limited advice but try and see if you can find a Law program that at least has some use for your skills, therefore a bank of IT knowledge along with an education in law that might be of some use to a future employer.
I am extremely happy to come across this thread and really appreciate the good work which has been put in by you in keeping it going.....
Actually i have been in a fix for some time now regarding the career options i have.........i am a B.tech with one yr of experience in family business (which we had to part off with due to division in the family) and then a post graduate diploma in management (MBA) from a b-grade school and then another one year of experience in financial services industry (sales/marketing).
Now i feel i need some international exposure and also want to change my profile into a more financial research based one.
I m currently preparing for my gmat and apart from 1 yr mba programs i m also considering some of the programs mentioned below :
LBS - M.Sc. Finance Imperial College - M.Sc. Risk Mgmt and financial engineering(more interested) LSE - M.Sc. Finance, M.Sc. Finance and Economics, M.Sc. Financial Mathematices (more interested) Said - MFE (Masters in finance and economics) Cass - M.Sc. Finance (Not very sure - please advise) Warwick - (Not very sure)
I am mainly interested in schools in and around london because i guess looking for a job would be much easier....
Please advise me what would be the job prospect for each of the above schools and courses. How would you rate them on the basis of ROI??
And anything else that you would like to share..........
Thanks FreeWill
All good schools well known for Corporate & Quant Finance Programs. Nothing wrong with any of them.
Bigger problem is employment in London. The Financial Industry is suffering and recovery is still a good 2-3 years away. Non-EU students will have a problem as first preferences will be experience, followed by EU nationality then others.
I'd rather you stay in your current job and get 3-4 years of solid experience, knowledge and career progress under your belt. On the way, try passing the CFA exam and getting that as a professional qualification.
Then when you're a bit older and surer of yourself, go for an advanced finance masters or even an MBA as the case might be.
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