Need some suggestion as my acads are not good having 57% and 56% in HSC and SSC Graduate with computer application(BCA) with 71% in 2009 (having two year gap in between SSC to BCA) After my graduation join my uncle in his business,gave CAT and other national level exam but couldn't able to clear top 20 b school.
Now i am thinking to join a one year PGDFS(post graduate diploma in financial services) because i personally fell it will give some value addition to my CV as i don't have great acads nor great extra curriculum and job profile is also not awesome.Wants to known puys view as i am also planning to give CAT and XAT this year.
Plz share your view because i am very confused whether i should go with job or join PGDFS.
It depends on where you join PGDFS. Having too many certifications etc. which are not from reputed institutes or prestigious (like CFA, FRM) would not add much value to ur CV. It also depends on the job that u would be doing. If u would be assisting in ur uncle's business, then it depends on how large his business is among other facts. If ur going for a job in a company, it would depend on the profile ur getting and the company ur getting into...
If you wanna go for a top college...I think u should go for the job..
Hey friends... I wanna pursue MBA frm a really B-School... Why dere are very few ppl who aspire for the topmost universities...like Harvard or LBS.. 90% of the times people will frown at you when you say you have queries regarding getting into Harvard or Princeton.. They ill say tht it requires an EXTRAORDINARY PROFILE...GRAD FROM A WORLD CLASS UNIVERSITY..n so on...but do they ever try to get information from the right source...All the information we have is mostly from rumors and people who failed to accomplish it... Dere is something called RIGHT TO INFORMATION.. What kind of Profile does it take to get into a place like Harvard...Isnt a damn gud GMAT Score sufficient to get THOSE top global B-schools...
Hey friends... I wanna pursue MBA frm a really B-School... Why dere are very few ppl who aspire for the topmost universities...like Harvard or LBS.. 90% of the times people will frown at you when you say you have queries regarding getting into Harvard or Princeton.. They ill say tht it requires an EXTRAORDINARY PROFILE...GRAD FROM A WORLD CLASS UNIVERSITY..n so on...but do they ever try to get information from the right source...All the information we have is mostly from rumors and people who failed to accomplish it... Dere is something called RIGHT TO INFORMATION.. What kind of Profile does it take to get into a place like Harvard...Isnt a damn gud GMAT Score sufficient to get THOSE top global B-schools...
colleges like harvard and wharton have dedicated pages related to their student profile..first of all you should go and check there..
the profiles that some of them have are: a. analysts at merrill lynch, consultants at BCG, AT Kearney, Morgan Stanley, GS... people say that it takes extra-ordinary profile to get into harvard because it takes extra-ordinary profile to get into harvard..however, no one can stop you if you have the will and the GMAT score..all the best!!! chak dey!!
Is a DAMN GOOD GMAT SCORE sufficient for THOSE TOP B-schools.. :)
from what I know, they want qualities like leadership, etc... I dont think a DAMN good gmat score is sufficient... my logic/rationale behind it is: a damn good CAT score is not sufficient for IIMs.. if you wanna thank me dude, just press the thank button..helps the mods to keep the thread clean
Hi All... I am a software engineer with 1.5 yrs experience in one of the biggest IT consultancy firm in India. I am a B.tech graduate in CS .
I wish to pursue my masters in coming few months. For that after deep discussions it came out to be either MBA or MS.
However conclusion was with a constraint that i must go for MBA with top B-schools like IIMs or atleast top 20 only.. else MS with a good University in US/Canada.
I am inclined towards technology too.. and in future i would like to work with IT Giants and later become an Entrepreneur.
So i have a few questions in my state of mind which i wish to get solved by honorable & experienced members of this forum.
1. Can i prepare for both exams simultaneously? Like, i can join coaching classes for CAT.. offcourse Quant for GRE would be covered if i prepare for CAT Quant. While i need to prepare a bit hard for GRE-s vocab as it is of higher level than of CAT. for that i think CAT coaching + correspondence GRE course would do the stuff. I wish to know the feasibility of my thought . Also if someone can describe similarities b/w the exams of GRE & CAT i would be grateful.
2. Is Btech > MBA better or Btech > MS > Executive MBA
3. According to Career prospects which is more beneficial MS or MBA .
I have assumed that if i would be doing MBA (than top 20 B-Schools would be considered and for MS would be preferring a good university in US/Canada.
4. I have read on some forums that MS can be completed in 1 yr or 1.5 yr if i take more courses per sem and in summers too. Wish to know if that can be really done and is it possible with MBA too in India ?
5. Finally i know i can rely on TIME for cat preparations.. can you guys suggest a good one for MS too in Delhi.
I have a lot of confusions over what i would be going to do. So i have kept a bit more questions so that most of my doubts are clear irrespective of the field i choose. I hope i would be helped here and properly guided here !!
Hi All... 1. Can i prepare for both exams simultaneously?
2. Is Btech > MBA better or Btech > MS > Executive MBA
3. According to Career prospects which is more beneficial MS or MBA .
4. I have read on some forums that MS can be completed in 1 yr or 1.5 yr if i take more courses per sem and in summers too. Wish to know if that can be really done and is it possible with MBA too in India ?
5. Finally i know i can rely on TIME for cat preparations.. can you guys suggest a good one for MS too in Delhi.
Hello dude.. welcome to Pagalguy..
Trying to answer some of your doubts:
1) Yes, it is definitely possible to prepare for both exams simultaneously. Though you need to work harder, and need to have a systematic and disciplined planning schedule for each.
Similarity Between GRE and CAT:
i) Both have a Similar Verbal Section having RCs, Analogy type Questions, Fill in the Blanks, Grammar Ques, etc.
ii) The DI/LR section is also a bit similar, though the questions asked in CAT are usually of a harder difficulty level, and are more calculation intensive.
Differences:
i) GRE is a Computer Adaptive test and CAT is not. ii) GRE has a pretty easy Quant section, whereas for CAT I guess you know. :D iii) Obviously the competition to get into the Top 20 Bschools is much higher than getting into a decent University in the US,etc. This is mainly because India has too many aspirants and too few seats. You need to score extraordinarily well in all 3 sections.
2) This depends on whether you are interested in pursuing a Full Time 2 Year MBA programme right away, or would you rather have decent(say 4-5 years) work experience first, and then take your step towards becoming a Full Fledged Manager.
Either way is fine, and I believe there is no Hard and Fast rule as to which path is better. It depends more on your ambitions and career objectives.
3) Very debatable question. Again I would say there is nothing better as such. It totally depends on your career plans and what you are planning to do in future. Many people confuse MS with purely Technical related courses. Actually one can do Masters in Management,Economics, etc as well in some of the top Universitites across the globe. Do specific research on the institutes and the courses they offer. In India the mentality is that MBA is much better than MS, but that might not always be the case. MS usually has better long time prospects, but MBA pass-outs usually get higher starting salaries.
4) I don't have much idea about MS duration, since different courses take different amount of time to complete. Exec MBA is usually a One Year course in India. A Normal MBA programme is normally of 2 years duration.
5) Sorry, I don't stay in Delhi so no idea on this one. Ask your friends, they should know. :)
I am right now working with Steel Authority of India Ltd. as a junior manager for the last 3 years. I am planning to write Gmat in june end.
My profile is as follows:
10th: 80% 12th :60%
Btech : Electrical Engg. frm JSS ATE NOIDA( A Private institution of UP Technical University) securing 70% aggregate.
Passed out in 2007 and straightaway got selected in SAIL by all India exam route, and joined in Bhilai Steel Plant( a flagship unit of SAIL .
I joined Blast Furnaces (Electrical Maintenance) as a Junior Manager. The Blast Furnace is the heart of an integrated steel plant persons in this field will acknowledge the above fact.
I have served in various sections of the department which includes
* technical jobs i.e supervision of maintenance activities for electrical equipments in the area, which includes working with the latest electrical installations viz. automation systems(PLCs and Drives), switchgear, basic electrical installations and have also been involved in commissioning of a couple of projects for increasing productivity of Blast Furnaces.
*Apart from that I was the part of the planning team of the electrical spares management systems for Blast Furnaces, where I had to handle ERP(user end). Indent making and Reviewing Budgetary offers being the major areas of work there.
So, all in all had a chance to study the technical aspect both from a site manager's viewpoint as well as a planner's viewpoint (for maintenance of spares)
* Dealing with people has been one of the major thrust areas of my job as while working in this profile you have to supervise around 50 people at one go. Dividing them in groups, measuring each person's strengths and allocating him the right job at the right place is a crucial thing here. Its a 24 hour running plant so a halt in production for a few minutes causes a loss of lacs of rupees.Hence you have to be very careful while allocating jobs, as per the technical acumen of people below you.
* Apart from these things, I am a keen debater, and have won accolades for debates and Group Discussions at college and company level. I have been an active member of the cricket team in college. As far as company level participation is concerned I have won chess tournaments, been a part of the cricket team for the internal cricket tournaments staged by the company and very recently got the opportunity to organize a tournament on the lines of IPL in Bhilai Plant's fraternity, which was a huge success.I have also organised LAN gaming tournaments, chess tournaments and cricket tournaments at college level.
* I am passionate about cricket, WWF ,oratory and chatting. I am a happy go lucky person who likes being cheerful and considers my smile as one of my major stregths.
As mentioned in my profile, I am passionate about oratory, this may sound a little weird but the presentations and all fascinate me a lot, so I would like to make a career in something that includes my this strength.
After joining SAIL, I learned a lot about technical and HR skills and would like to capitalize on these things in MBA.
Normally as far as the Indian MBA scenario goes, I am a little fearful about the prospects of what my work ex in steel industry would get me. So I decided to go for an international MBA where I can get more exposure and value for my 3-4 years work ex.
As far as role playing after an MBA is concerned, I think an MBA in operations and logistics would suit me the best, working in any part of the world is hardly a problem provided I am tagged to a good brand.
I would love to go for a job which involves a mix of creativity, operations and HR handling skills ....in precise a place where my work ex helps me achieve newer heights.
I have applied on the basis of my CAT score for CRISIL's certified analyst programme( CCAP) , in case u have heard of that. Just wanted to know whether it would be worthwhile to switch careers from Steel sector to Credit ratings kind of field.
What kind of profile do corporations like CRISIL offer, through courses like CCAP( crisil certified analyst program). If somebody like me having exp. in SAIL, joins this course on the basis of my industry experience of 3 years, what profile will I be aiming at in the long run, and how will my exp help in a credit analyst's role?
As per CRISIL's websites and pagalguy forums, I think in their credit ratings and advisory wings I can leverage my industry exp easily.
I'll be completing my BBA from Symbiosis, Pune in May 2011. I have a few queries,
1) Should I go for work-ex after my graduation, and apply for MBA after I have 2-3 years of work-ex ?
OR
2) Go for an MBA straight after graduation.
OR
3) Go for a one year course after graduation (like MSc Finance from LSE/LBS), then get some work-ex and apply for MBA after that.
Also, what is the credibility of a MSc (Finance) degree and what would be the placement be like. What would be the costs involved in such a degree and how soon can the placement give me a ROI ?
i will be passing out as an electrical engineer this year...i would like to go for MBA after 2-3 years of work ex...i have 2 jobs in hand ...one as a software engineer in TCS and the other as project engineer in mcnally bharat engineering(core company)....which will give me more value at the time of interview in any B-school....plz advice whether i should go for IT in TCS or as a project engineer in mcnally bharat engineering with relation to value it will give to my work ex at any premier B-school....
In the first place ,It depends on your inner call . In the second place , exp gives an edge over others only if your work profile is very good and it will become extremely difficult to dedicate time for CAT once you enter the job. It is better to try CAT and complete your MBA , then decide as to whether u want to go to IT field or Core during the placements .
I have 3 yrs of work experience and could not convert lone B call this year. Is it advisable to try for one more year ? I heard that more work experience is a minus and I am worried even if I crack CAT the chances might be slim. Is this true ?
Hi ,Its Lisa again .I have done my BE and now lookin for jobs .Could not crack CAT so well last time .I have no inclination towards the IT sector so I had applied for jobs in various sectors such as event management and public relations as well.My confusion though is whether the work experience gained in any of these fields be considered appropriate enuf for gainin admission into the GOOD B schools .Just about any suggestions are welcomed.Thanks
Hi Lisa ,
Looking at the kind of roles you are trying to move into , HR would be the best MBA option ,and the work exp will help you out during interview for HR management , i doubt whether it would be useful in case you are opting for general management .
I have 3 yrs of work experience and could not convert lone B call this year. Is it advisable to try for one more year ? I heard that more work experience is a minus and I am worried even if I crack CAT the chances might be slim. Is this true ?
Some colleges do deduct marks for more work-ex, but that normally starts after 4-5 years and not before that. Anyway, even that is not a very big issue, if you want to, you can certainly have a go again.
I have just completed my B.tech(CSE) and couldnot crack any of the good bschools. Right now, i am in dilemma whether to join infosys in oct and forget about MBA for a year or 2(as work pressure in infy is quite high initially) or just get a work ex certi from any company and keep on preparing for MBA this year.
I wanna do MBA and change my career from IT to finance as soon as possible.
I'm having around 5 yrs of experience (in a big company: infy/tcs/hcl) and have been offered a job in Dell Perot Systems Noida.
Can anybody let me know how is this company. 1. Do they have hire n fire kind of policies 2. Are their any good/bad changes there after acquisition by Dell. 3. What kind of projcts they have in healthcare domain 4. Overall growth prospects in the company
If anybody can help me in any of the above queries or anything which could be important for taking my decision, I'll really be thankful to you...
I have just completed my B.tech(CSE) and couldnot crack any of the good bschools. Right now, i am in dilemma whether to join infosys in oct and forget about MBA for a year or 2(as work pressure in infy is quite high initially) or just get a work ex certi from any company and keep on preparing for MBA this year.
I wanna do MBA and change my career from IT to finance as soon as possible.
Plz suggest what should i do now.
Join infy or drop a year
Joining infy would be a better idea as dropping a year and sitting idle will not only add pressure but also do you a big harm at PI when asked about the gap.
Morever,if you manage to pull of 2-3 hours on a daily basis from now onwards then it would be more than enough for CAT preparation.
Atleast 2 hours per day is manageable while working in an IT company and that too spread over 6 months will give u a lot. And yes,please do make a proper study plan for those six months. It will further enhance the value of time u have in ur hands.
I have 3 yrs of work experience and could not convert lone B call this year. Is it advisable to try for one more year ? I heard that more work experience is a minus and I am worried even if I crack CAT the chances might be slim. Is this true ?
Well. what to say ! i was in a similar boat untill i converted my IIT-D call.And trust me after 4-5 years of experience,a full time 2 year MBA doesn't add much value to you in terms of course as well as the placements.You tend to loose the advantage of work-ex in such programmes.
And some deduct points for experience beyond 3 years and some don't reward points for experience beyond 3 years.
So,it would be better if u do a 16-month/1 year MBA from India or Abroad and target for GMAT.
But incase, u r aiming for IIM-A,B,C then its worth of taking one more shot.
And to some extent L,XL and FMS but below that is a complete no-no.
I have just completed my B.tech(CSE) and couldnot crack any of the good bschools. Right now, i am in dilemma whether to join infosys in oct and forget about MBA for a year or 2(as work pressure in infy is quite high initially) or just get a work ex certi from any company and keep on preparing for MBA this year.
I wanna do MBA and change my career from IT to finance as soon as possible.
Plz suggest what should i do now.
Join infy or drop a year
If ur joining Infy in october, then you can have a go at CAT this year too. CAT prep and CAT exams are not like IIT-JEE where you have to keep revising a concept multiple times. So even if you are not able to revise in and after October, it wouldnt hurt you much. Also, I have seen that at times people are lucky (or unlucky) in the writtens. Do not under-estimate urself if ur written did not go well.
PI is a culmination of all the things that you have done till now. So, even if you are not able to prepare at the last min, you have a fare chance of having a good interview. Plus (and a major point), dropping an year for prep of CAT is never a good alternative and not appreciated by the panelists (atleast of the good bschools).
I'll be completing my BBA from Symbiosis, Pune in May 2011. I have a few queries,
1) Should I go for work-ex after my graduation, and apply for MBA after I have 2-3 years of work-ex ?
OR
2) Go for an MBA straight after graduation.
OR
3) Go for a one year course after graduation (like MSc Finance from LSE/LBS), then get some work-ex and apply for MBA after that.
Also, what is the credibility of a MSc (Finance) degree and what would be the placement be like. What would be the costs involved in such a degree and how soon can the placement give me a ROI ?
to tell you the truth the above question is very dicey.
however, this is what usually happens:
a. if you are working with an average profile (let say), you will be getting work experience, very useful in cracking the final call, but ur preparation for written might be affected (and u might get a lower score). if it is not affected, then obviously this is the best option
b. the reverse of the above (and dropping an year is not something which is appreciated by panelists in good bschools)
c. if u make it through the above schools, I think you would be applying to international bschools, which in anycase require work experience (assuming LSE stands for London School of Economics and LBS means London Business School)
I'm having around 5 yrs of experience (in a big company: infy/tcs/hcl) and have been offered a job in Dell Perot Systems Noida.
Can anybody let me know how is this company. 1. Do they have hire n fire kind of policies 2. Are their any good/bad changes there after acquisition by Dell. 3. What kind of projcts they have in healthcare domain 4. Overall growth prospects in the company
If anybody can help me in any of the above queries or anything which could be important for taking my decision, I'll really be thankful to you...
i myself was selected for this company when i was in campus so wud like to help u out.
1). generally they are very secure companies and hardly fire anyone. they have assessments and periodical evaluation but generally every one jumps the gun
also its been awarded best place to work twice ina row. very laid back style of working here
u hv coffee meets on Saturday.
2). there has been salary hike after dell has acquired it. meagre only though. also before that company has not called even 2008 passed out batch. since dell has taken over it has called both 08 and 09 batch and s recruiting again which means they have too many projects.
3). Perot main area is health care domain -> it provides the full spectrum of infrastructure, application, and business process solutions and customized solutions are designed to improve the quality and cost of your healthcare delivery and meet organizational needs, budgets, and resource availability.
4). very higfh i saw hr managers at age of 24 ! they weer just BE . but highly performing. its a great comapany. not even one soul said anything bad abt it. renumeration is ok but work culture is to die for, its in sector-125 noida also has a major office in Bangalore.
