If HEC has always been the top priority for you and your entire focus was on this program then stick to it. Don't let any rankings change the perception you've built about the school based on all that research you've don't already.
Rankings have generalised approach to looking at bschools from their own lens, they don't (and can't) take into consideration individual priorities like the candidate can.
So don't let last minute data overload rock the boat. You never know when the tables turn with these rankings. I'd suggest sticking to your original decision.
- Sameer MBA Crystal Ball
Hi Sameer,
Thanks a lot for the mubarak 😃 I'm really excited about it.
I know that rankings are generic etc, but when it comes to B-Schools abroad, I'd also have to look at the returns in terms of Salary etc after the course, in which case according to surveys, IE is in the top 10.
It's like now - my mind tells me to go to IE because all the rankings point towards it but my heart and instinct tell me to go to HEC (it sounds cheesy but it's true!). I've also been speaking to people and, literally, 50% of the people (business contacts in Europe, alumni etc) have told me to go to IE while the other 50% to HEC.
Also I want to specialise in Marketing and although HEC is strong on it (an obvious advantage, given that it's in Paris), some rankings rank IE higher. And honestly speaking, given that IE is in the top 10, I want to have that "label"(of top ten) on my MBA. Does a top 10 B-School tag really matter post the MBA?
I know that rankings are generic etc, but when it comes to B-Schools abroad, I'd also have to look at the returns in terms of Salary etc after the course, in which case according to surveys, IE is in the top 10. : And honestly speaking, given that IE is in the top 10, I want to have that "label"(of top ten) on my MBA. Does a top 10 B-School tag really matter post the MBA?
Recruiters don't share the same obsession with rankings as schools and applicants do. They might occasionally glance through the latest rankings as every business website and publication creates a buzz around these releases each year. But in the recruiter's eyes, the brand value and credibility of a good institution doesn't alter overnight just because of rankings.
Also, average salaries for a particular school are just that...average numbers. It's a collective reflection of what the students from the outgoing batch were worth. That figure will have no meaning for the next batch. They'll define their own averages based on their market potential and their target industries.
For instance, if you are aiming for I-banking or Mgmt consulting or any similar high-paying industry, your salary will go way beyond the average that your school publishes.
I have given GMAT (640) i have a measly work ex of 7 months in the bpo sector (IBM) i have stayed abroad for a year (wales) and i have financial restraints; i have a science background :
is there any mba (or allied course) that i should be gunning for?
also what are some of the 'semi-decent' unis in canada that i can apply to within a budget of 6-8 lakhs?
i realise my message may sound a lil crass, and commercial but these are my cards, on the table, any help will be appreciated. :)
Hi consultants. ... 3. Do the B-Schools require me to present proof of any particular amount of liquid assets at the time of application? Does the visa process require so? What is that amount likely to be? (This is the most worrisome aspect) What amount am I required to show in liquid assets at the time of application to B-School and during the visa application?
I request the consultants to answer these queries and also comment on my plan to improve my profile before I actually apply in 2012.
Regards.
Will someone please answer the post (without hijacking the discussion)?
Will someone please answer the post (without hijacking the discussion)?
The school does not. Yes, the visa process requires you to show how you are going to pay for your fees. So it can be a combination of your own money +fees. However, the visa-officer will still want to see assets greater than your fees irrespective of the amount of scholarship you have. You have to convince the visa-officer that you do not intend to settle down in their fine land but are returning back at the end of your studies. Liquid Assets : Atleast 1st year fees.
The school does not. Yes, the visa process requires you to show how you are going to pay for your fees. So it can be a combination of your own money +fees. However, the visa-officer will still want to see assets greater than your fees irrespective of the amount of scholarship you have. You have to convince the visa-officer that you do not intend to settle down in their fine land but are returning back at the end of your studies. Liquid Assets : Atleast 1st year fees.
Ok So I reckon I won't have to show any proofs to the school as such but I will have to show the visa-officer enough liquid assets to support the first year of my education. That is about 40 lacs.
But that's a huuge sum. Won't the visa-officer take into account any scholarships/grants/loans that I get?
Ok So I reckon I won't have to show any proofs to the school as such but I will have to show the visa-officer enough liquid assets to support the first year of my education. That is about 40 lacs.
But that's a huuge sum. Won't the visa-officer take into account any scholarships/grants/loans that I get?
Thanks for the help.
Regards
Yes, grants/loans/scholarships will be taken into consideration. The total should be your tuition fees and living expenses (depending on the country you want to go)
Yes, grants/loans/scholarships will be taken into consideration. The total should be your tuition fees and living expenses (depending on the country you want to go)
Thanks a lot. That's one thing less to worry about. :)
I presume when one gets admitted to a top B-School, loans/scholarships/grants concerns take a backseat and everything just works out.
Kindly advise about the Bradford Full Time MBA and ESSEC MBA in Hospitality Management....
Bradford students read Harvard case studies. The only drawback I heard from my friend is that not many companies come to Bradford because the B school is not situated in a big city. So eventually, students end up relocating to london or Manchester for jobs after their MBA. I guess, if you intend to study in the UK despite knowing about the new work visa rule, go ahead with Bradford. It's a good B school. Their course content is also good, they have about 16 option modules, and their professors are good too.
I am a 26 year old from Bangalore. My profile is as follows:
Decent Acads Work Exp - 42 months (total), IT Technology Consultant from a DB major in India (39 months). Moved to a smaller company(3 montths) of 300 people to gain more responsibilities. International Work exp - 6 months (an Onsite assignment to UK) GMAT - 690 TOEFL - 112 Extra Curr - Decent I plan to apply to US B-Schools for the year 2012. I wanted to know my chances for the following schools:
Columbia Uni, NY
Uni of California (Haas)
Dartmouth (Tuck)
NYU (Stern)
Duke (Fuqua)
Umich -Ann Arbor (Ross)
Uni of Virginia (Darden)
Cornell (Johnson)
CMU (Tepper)
UCLA (Anderson)
Emory Uni (Goizueta), GA
Uni of NC (Kenan Flager)
USC (Marshall)
Uni of Texas, Austin (McCombs)
Indiana Uni (Kelly)
George Town (McDonough)
Rice Uni (Jones)
Uni of Washington (Foster)
Washington Uni (Olin)
Michigan State (Broad)
Uni of Maryland (Smith)
Southern Methodist (Cox)
Purdue University(Krannert)
Would appreciate if someone could let me know whether my chances are Great, Good, Medium, Bad
Please help me by answering a few queries I have regarding my application for Top B Schools Abroad
My Profile: Grades X - 86.5% XII - 81% Undergrad (Engg.) - 2.8/4 (IIT Bombay BTech) GMAT: 710
Work Ex (Total 4 year when Joining B School) 1. 2.5 Years with Deloitte Consulting as a Business Analyst in a Corporate Strategy and Finance Project (Will Procure Good Recommendations from the Managing Director or Senior Manager) 2. 1.5 year with a huge Indian Financial Services Org. as an assistant to the chairman in corporate strategy. (Will procure good recommendations from the chairman)
Extra Currics 1. Have been working with a Charitable institute since last 2 years in managing free dialysis setup for the poor 2. Have been an avid speaker and have been awarded CC n CL manuals at Toastmasters Club 3. Been office bearer in collg (I know these are trivial things, but just covering the bare minimums to compete)
Target Schools Shortlisted (6 Schools) 1. Harvard or Stanford 2. Kellogg 3. Ross 4. Anderson 5. Johnson 6. ISB (Simply Cause it is cheaper, and easier to get in)
I need to apply for the batch starting in 2012
Questions: 1. I do realize my engg grades are not my best points on the resume. But What could I possibly do further so that they do not become the yardstick for my intelligence
2. Assuming I do accomplish things mentioned by you in the question above and write excellent essays. How would you rate my chances in the schools mentioned in the list above? Also, what specifically should I target in the essays while applying to each of the schools above? (Other than clarity of thoughts about your career of-course) Are their any specific qualities each of these univs above look for?
3. Also could you guide me (considering I gotta apply in R1 starting 15th Sept), what should be my strategy ahead?
I know I may be asking a lil too much. But it would be a great help :)
Hi, I am a 26 year old from Bangalore. My profile is as follows: : I plan to apply to US B-Schools for the year 2012. I wanted to know my chances for the following schools: :
For a minute, I thought someone had posted a new Global Top-25 MBA rankings list ;-)
Quite a collection you've got there, Suhpra. It includes around a quarter of the schools included in the MCB report.
May I ask what rationale you had for short-listing these schools?
1. 2.5 Years with Deloitte Consulting as a Business Analyst in a Corporate Strategy and Finance Project (Will Procure Good Recommendations from the Managing Director or Senior Manager)
If you are referring to the same person that I have in mind, he was the one who got me a break in the management consulting industry. Ok, enough suspense. Moving on.
6. ISB (Simply Cause it is cheaper, and easier to get in)
Agree with the cheaper part, but I don't think the latter half is true. ISB has one of the toughest selectivity figures in that list. So don't underestimate the competition from apne fellow countrymen (what's the gender neutral term here?).
3. Been office bearer in collg (I know these are trivial things, but just covering the bare minimums to compete)
Not trivial, specially in your case. It shows you were busy in activities other than just studies. And if you can present that perspective effectively (with a capital E), Adcoms will see that in positive light.
Questions: 1. I do realize my engg grades are not my best points on the resume. But What could I possibly do further so that they do not become the yardstick for my intelligence
You are from IIT, you have a 700+ GMAT score and you are a strategy consultant for a reputed company.
Mere khayal se you are doing pretty well in the intelligence dept. so stop stressing out, sirji.
2. How would you rate my chances in the schools mentioned in the list above? Also, what specifically should I target in the essays while applying to each of the schools above? Are their any specific qualities each of these univs above look for?
It's a good mix of schools. Each univ does look for certain specific traits, so always good to be aware of the nuances when you write essays. It's not possible to get into all the details in this post, of what you can or should not do in the essays, but as a general rule of thumb keep in mind that Adcoms aren't looking for the most intelligent applicant of the lot.
They are looking for folks who can become good managers and leaders. And more importantly, run businesses. When you get there, you can recruit intelligent employees for the operational work :-)
For a minute, I thought someone had posted a new Global Top-25 MBA rankings list ;-)
Quite a collection you've got there, Suhpra. It includes around a quarter of the schools included in the MCB report.
May I ask what rationale you had for short-listing these schools?
- Sameer MBA Crystal Ball
Hi Sameer,
Well I saw the rankings and the schools I have are just the broad spectrum of schools I'm considering. I tried to first look at the schools I can aim for with my profile and hence the list. This is in no way the list of schools I intend to apply to 😃
I would like to know where my best chances would lie
What is the structure of brainstorming sessions conducted before giving suggestions on essays? How are these sessions conducted - face to face or over telephone?
Each univ does look for certain specific traits, so always good to be aware of the nuances when you write essays. It's not possible to get into all the details in this post, of what you can or should not do in the essays, but as a general rule of thumb keep in mind that Adcoms aren't looking for the most intelligent applicant of the lot.
They are looking for folks who can become good managers and leaders. And more importantly, run businesses. When you get there, you can recruit intelligent employees for the operational work :-)
Keep the faith buddy.
- Sameer MBA Crystal Ball
Thanks Sameer
But can you help me with what specific traits does Harvard, Kellogg and ISB look for?
Hi, I am a Graduate Engineer in India and working for past 6 Years in Core Engg Sector and now planning to take GMAT with Target of 700+.
By the time, I will apply and join any of MBA program, I will have gathered 7 years of Work experience, Moreover, I have been working consistently with only 1 organization and never opted to change.
However, I need guidance/consultation regarding which MBA program suits best for me along with where from I should pursue MBA, US, UK or India itself.
At this stage, I want to opt for MBA program and location, which should open doors of opportunities for me in future.
Request you give me some suggestions/guidance, for the way forward.
Well I saw the rankings and the schools I have are just the broad spectrum of schools I'm considering. I tried to first look at the schools I can aim for with my profile and hence the list. This is in no way the list of schools I intend to apply to 😃
I would like to know where my best chances would lie
It's a good idea to use one of the established rankings to start your selection process. But taking 23 schools without having some kind of a filter criteria isn't the most optimum way to arrive at a final shortlist.
your list list contains schools that are like chalk and cheese in terms of geography, school strengths, cost of the program, career opportunities, weather and snob value(!).
You might be better off creating a personalised framework to evaluate which of those 25 actually fit into your personal scheme of things.
I could make life easy for both of us and list down 5 schools where you should apply. But if you haven't done your homework and convinced yourself that these are the best ones for you, it won't help.
So a little research (starting from introspection and then moving to bschools) would go a long way in working on your apps.
What is the structure of brainstorming sessions conducted before giving suggestions on essays? How are these sessions conducted - face to face or over telephone?
Everything happens over the phone and internet. The PG shop and the website have more details.
