GMAT Data Sufficiency Discussions

A set of mixing bowls consists of 6 bowls of varying diameters. Will the 4 bowls with the smallest diameters fit side by side on a kitchen shelf x centimeters in length?

(1) The average (arithmetic mean) diameter of all 6
bowls is 15 centimeters.
(2) The length of the shelf is 50 centimeters.


I think C should be the answer, when we know that sum of all the diameters is 15x6 = 90 and the length of shelf i.e. x = 50, the 4 smallest bowls can be arranged in the shelf.

Whats the OA ?
A set of mixing bowls consists of 6 bowls of varying diameters. Will the 4 bowls with the smallest diameters fit side by side on a kitchen shelf x centimeters in length?

(1) The average (arithmetic mean) diameter of all 6
bowls is 15 centimeters.
(2) The length of the shelf is 50 centimeters.


My take 'E'.

a1+a2+a3+a4+a5+a6 = 90.

length of shelf = 50.

a1+a2+a3+a4 40.
the minimum value a5+a6 take is 30.1 (considering an approximation) . the maximum value a5+a6 can take is around 70.

Hence we cannot say for sure..that the smallest 4 bowls will fit..
My take 'E'.

a1+a2+a3+a4+a5+a6 = 90.

length of shelf = 50.

a1+a2+a3+a4 40.
the minimum value a5+a6 take is 30.1 (considering an approximation) . the maximum value a5+a6 can take is around 70.

Hence we cannot say for sure..that the smallest 4 bowls will fit..


Yes the OA is 'e'; but how did u derive at this
"the minimum value a5+a6 take is 30.1 (considering an approximation) . the maximum value a5+a6 can take is around 70."
plz elaborate....
Yes the OA is 'e'; but how did u derive at this
"the minimum value a5+a6 take is 30.1 (considering an approximation) . the maximum value a5+a6 can take is around 70."
plz elaborate....


lets take all the values are integer.......
let four small values are 14,15,16,17 (these are four highest possible values) they will make total of 62 leaving 38 as sum of two remaing values which are individually greater than each above four so they can be 18 n 20.
so in this case four small values are > 50.
now if we take 10,11,12,13 as four smaller values they are =46
so we can deduce the answer hence E.

hope m clear in my explanation
Yes the OA is 'e'; but how did u derive at this
"the minimum value a5+a6 take is 30.1 (considering an approximation) . the maximum value a5+a6 can take is around 70."
plz elaborate....


I followed this analogy:

Since it is given that they are all different... and tht the average is 15, the maximum values of the least 4 diameters could be 15,14.99,14.98,14.97 their sum equals...59.94 and hence a5+a6 = 30.06...... this is the least value for a5+a6..

Considering a1 =1, a2=2, a3=3, a4=5... the minimum values.. and hence a5+a6 - can take a maximum of around 70...

hence i concluded tht a solution cant be reached..

hope it helps
lets take all the values are integer.......
let four small values are 14,15,16,17 (these are four highest possible values) they will make total of 62 leaving 38 as sum of two remaing values which are individually greater than each above four so they can be 18 n 20.
so in this case four small values are > 50.
now if we take 10,11,12,13 as four smaller values they are =46
so we can deduce the answer hence E.

hope m clear in my explanation


yeah...it is clear...thnx:)

If x,y and z are integers and xy+z is an odd integer , is x an even integer?
1. xy+xz is even
2. y+xz is odd

If x,y and z are integers and xy+z is an odd integer , is x an even integer?
1. xy+xz is even
2. y+xz is odd



My take is E but not very sure abou the procedure .......
If x,y and z are integers and xy+z is an odd integer , is x an even integer?
1. xy+xz is even
2. y+xz is odd



i guess the answer should be B. what is OA?
Inder.14 Says
i guess the answer should be B. what is OA?


Please check the case in which Z is even ,then XY is odd
this is satsified by the 2nd statement

but when Xboth X and Y are even and Z is odd then the equation,the 2nd statement is not true ...........

letme know if im wrong
Please check the case in which Z is even ,then XY is odd
this is satsified by the 2nd statement

but when Xboth X and Y are even and Z is odd then the equation,the 2nd statement is not true ...........

letme know if im wrong


ya parichit7 you are right ........actually i didnt take the case when x and y both are even ...............
thanks for explaining
Inder.14 Says
i guess the answer should be B. what is OA?


OA is 'A'. How???
If x,y and z are integers and xy+z is an odd integer , is x an even integer?
1. xy+xz is even
2. y+xz is odd


My Take 'A'.
Given : xy+z is odd => xy is even and z is odd or
xy is odd and z is even
stmt1:
xy+xz is even => xy and xz are even or --- (1)
xy and xz are odd --- (2)

if z is odd .. xy must be even - and hence from (1) xz must be even => x is even.
if z is even .. xy must be odd - and hence from (1) xz must be odd -> but when 'z' is even xz can never be odd.. so with hypothesis (2) cannot exist..

stmt 2:
y+xz is odd => y is odd and xz is even or --- (3)
y is even and xz is odd --- (4)
Cannot say based on this statement. alone....

hope this helps
My Take 'A'.
Given : xy+z is odd => xy is even and z is odd or
xy is odd and z is even
stmt1:
xy+xz is even => xy and xz are even or --- (1)
xy and xz are odd --- (2)

if z is odd .. xy must be even - and hence from (1) xz must be even => x is even.
if z is even .. xy must be odd - and hence from (1) xz must be odd -> but when 'z' is even xz can never be odd.. so with hypothesis (2) cannot exist..

stmt 2:
y+xz is odd => y is odd and xz is even or --- (3)
y is even and xz is odd --- (4)
Cannot say based on this statement. alone....

hope this helps

Stem 1: xy+xz is even => x(y+z) is even
this is true when either x is even/odd and y+z is odd/even or both x and (y+z) is even

if x is even and y+z is odd, xy+z is always even
The same can be proved for other cases and one can say that xy+z is even

Statement 2: y+xz is odd
For diff conditions of x, y and z, xy+z can be even or odd. hence B is insufficient.

thanks
For 1st it will be C both is required ,, as 451
and 351


For the second one B i suppose is sufficent .. as the one GCD will be 12....
what say PUYS

The OA s are E and E...
Can anyone help me with these questions...
1) If 500 is a multiple of 100 that is closest to x and 400 is a multiple of 100 that is closest to y,which multiple of 100 is closest to x+y?
a) xb) y
2) If x and y are positive integers such that x= 8y +12 ,what is the GCD of x and y?
a) x=12u , where u is an integer
b) y=12z , where z is an integer



1.

stmt 1: xstmt 2: y
combining both statements:

stmt 1..the maximum value x can take is 450, to coincide with hypothesis.
stmt2.. the maximum value y can take is 350, to coincide with hypothesis.

so 450
or 800
so depending on this value, the vlaue varies.. for e,g if x+y = 810, multiple is 800 and if x+y is 890.. multiple will be 900... Hence even both are insufficient.... hence 'E'.

hope this helps.
1) If 500 is a multiple of 100 that is closest to x and 400 is a multiple of 100 that is closest to y,which multiple of 100 is closest to x+y?
a) xb) y
2) If x and y are positive integers such that x= 8y +12 ,what is the GCD of x and y?
a) x=12u , where u is an integer
b) y=12z , where z is an integer



2. My take is 'B'.

stmt 1: x = 12u => x is multiple of 12.
2 y = 3 (u-1) => y is a multiple of 3..

depending on the divisors of 'y'..(6,12...) - the gcd varies...=> insufficient.

stmt 2: y = 12z => y is a multiple of 12.
x = 12 (z+1) => x is a multiple of 12.
=> x is 12 units away from y.. and since 12 is common factor of both x and y=> 12 is the gcf for x and y...

Hope it helps...
....

Statement 2: y+xz is odd
For diff conditions of x, y and z, xy+z can be even or odd. hence B is insufficient.

thanks


Thanks srikanth and alchemist , it is clear now.
Can sumbdy plz help me out with this

Quantity A:
(0.82)2(0.82)3
Quantity B:(0.82)6
  1. if the quantity in Column A is greater;
  2. if the quantity in Column B is greater;
  3. if the two quantities are equal;
  4. if the relationship cannot be determined from the information given
Can sumbdy plz help me out with this
Quantity A: (0.82)2(0.82)3

Quantity B:(0.82)6
  1. if the quantity in Column A is greater;
  2. if the quantity in Column B is greater;
  3. if the two quantities are equal;
  4. if the relationship cannot be determined from the information given


the answer to this one should be 2 i.e the quantity in Column B is greater;

Quantity A: = .82 * .82* 6(0.82)6(Quantity B) ( as square of .82 will be less than .82 i.e around .6...)