@sudhir3127 Thanks bud!!
@leotheking said:How much emphasis does ISB gives for acads, i mean 10th, 12th & grad.I have % in all 3 hobbering arnd 70.Work ex - arnd 3 yrs. till now.i am not sure should i attempt GMAT for ISB or not, pl. help.
GMAT score is valid for 5 years, so you can take it this year and still use it till 2018.
Just called up ISB. The gentleman said the results will be rolled out by end of business day and asked me to check my email at about 6 PM.
good Morning puys....
All the best to all... May all of us have peace of mind at today's end of day...
Morning puys... Good luck for the day 😁
@dodgeforgmat said:Just called up ISB. The gentleman said the results will be rolled out by end of business day and asked me to check my email at about 6 PM.
Thanks man.
Tick Tock Tick Tock Tick Tock....
Brace yourselves.....R2 results are coming!
Precursory Warning : Might be a real long post. Patience is advised if you want to read through, especially given today is the D-day and all are anxiously refreshing the mail-box. 😃 Also, I do realize that it might be particularly really late in this thread's life to share my entire journey experience but then again better late than never. Honestly, I was kind of lazy to write out this entire debrief and the efforts (time & wirting) that it takes.I am a R2 re-applicant and had applied in R2 last year as well. I was dinged last year without an i/v. I have been on-off with PG responses but active on my blog.
There were quite a few chinks in the armour last year, most notably a low GMAT score (630). I had also shifted jobs in June 2011 and so almost like just 6 months in my new job at the time of R2 application deadline.
To give a quick background, I am from the Telecom Industry and have been a tad fortunate to have got a chance to work on some really good projects and also in terms of interacting with the business teams (Read as BI, Marketing & Sales :)) during my entire experience. I will be completing 4 years 9 months by March 2013. I personally felt that despite my low GMAT, I had put in a stellar application last year and was particularly distraught that I did not get even an i/v call. So much so for personal opinions on one's application. Honestly, there is no running away from the fact that a ding is deeply hurting especially when for everyone applying, a convert it is the one thing for which we kind of live and endure that phase of life. That time from Feb 15th 2012 to April end was like terrible mood-swings, deep introspection and so on. Not a particularly desirable time for any one to go through.
So, I got my bearings back in place by May and focused on two things right away. Firstly my GMAT preparation and secondly looking into feedback from neutral people on what went wrong with my application. There are few sites likes ClearAdmit, Accepted, @MBACrystalBall, @atouchofcrypticthunder who are approachable for this aspect. In my opinion it is best to have a personalized feedback and if you have the time and money then approach a admissions consultant. These are my 2 cents and might not be the case for everyone. I received honest & blunt criticism and it kind of opened my eyes that my essays were rather average. I had spent a lot of words laying the context that I kind of ended up losing up on my actions, impact & learning from my experience. It is sometimes tough to digest such feedback but then again I feel it is essential. At that point I know I had to work on GMAT and put in really refined essays this time around. Another aspect was the re-applicant essay and I was fortunate than from Dec 2011, my professional life kind of took off. It is amazing to think about how much time one can have in daily routine life if not preparing for GMAT, thinking about essays, etc. 24 hours actually seem a decent enough time duration. I was very lucky to get a great streak of multiple international assignments over the past year which in turn made my re-applicant essay get some good weightage.
Long story short, balanced out my work responsibilities & GMAT and then the application. I feel that introspection (on achievements, why MBA, etc.) though over-stated is normally under done. If this part is truthfully done by one self then the essays and interview part will really be less daunting. I was very enthusiastic till my GMAT time and then kind of faded away in terms of blogging. If you have spare time then some GMAT based blogs can be found on tranquilnomadgmat.blogspot.in
I submitted my application at almost 10 mins prior to the deadline (Bad habits since childhood of doing tasks just in time actually seldom changes you see). My recos were submitted on 5th Dec which was the last date. In summary, my entire journey is not the ideal way for any applicant (especially one aspiring to be a management candidate) to be going through the process and strongly recommended to be avoided. There would be times when one feels what am I doing living so miserably but then friends and family are the motivation one needs to get though such lean phases.
Once the application is submitted, there are 3 phases of waiting. You wait for the application complete confirmation then the much required i/v call and if the call does come then the wait after the i/v till 15th Feb. Personally, I prefer the 3rd wait to be least. Early i/v leads to a really agonizing wait for the results. Also such a period is like least productive time in professional and personal life. It is more like a time of just "breathing to see the days through". My interview was on 6th Feb and I received the invite on 26th. I actually checked the mail only a day later since I had kind of given up on getting that elusive call.
So the call was received but I was clueless on what exactly should one prepare for the i/v. I mean it is oft said that Practice, Practice but then the spontaneity of responses goes missing in that case. This i/v prep is every individual's own call and you should do what you feel is the best. If rehearsing suits you then do it else let it go. Trying to force something which is not natural to your personality can only lead to heightened anxiety. My 2 cents on i/v tips would be as below :
1. It is your life and if you have written your essays with due introspection then there would already be a graphic line-up of your life achievements on your finger tips. It would help to have a kind of flow in you mind to the standard questions on professional achievements, Why MBA, Why ISB, challenges faced,etc but then rehearsing would make your answers lose that personal touch and shine that glazes through when one discusses things. Eg. the animated discussions on NaMo's speech would lose their impact if they were kind of rehearsed responses (btw was a pleasant deviation as I was going through the last few pages.
2. I was lucky to have worked with an ISB alumnus and I had asked her views on the i/v. The golden words were treat it as a friendly discussion. The i/v panel's mandate is to know the applicant more and evaluate the virtues portrayed via the essays. If during the i/v, traits other than those mentioned in the essays come up then they can be probed further. The i/v panel, I believe, have a set of checkpoints on which they rate the responses of the applicant. There are things which are classified broadly as industry experience depth, awareness of global occurrences in the industry etc. The standard questions might be asked in different words but then the applicant needs to evaluate the actual question meant while responding.
3. The actual i/v should reflect one's ease while responding to the questions. Some amount of nervousness would surely be there but then back your instincts and let your thoughts flow with the answers.
2. I was lucky to have worked with an ISB alumnus and I had asked her views on the i/v. The golden words were treat it as a friendly discussion. The i/v panel's mandate is to know the applicant more and evaluate the virtues portrayed via the essays. If during the i/v, traits other than those mentioned in the essays come up then they can be probed further. The i/v panel, I believe, have a set of checkpoints on which they rate the responses of the applicant. There are things which are classified broadly as industry experience depth, awareness of global occurrences in the industry etc. The standard questions might be asked in different words but then the applicant needs to evaluate the actual question meant while responding.
3. The actual i/v should reflect one's ease while responding to the questions. Some amount of nervousness would surely be there but then back your instincts and let your thoughts flow with the answers.
My actual i/v was a discussion an going through the previous i/v experiences on this thread I guess most were the same.
Panel consisted of an alumnus and an ad-com member. Initial talk I was told not to expect the opening question as "tell us about your professional life till now" but was actually asked this as the first one. I was kind of overjoyed to hear this and in my youthful exuberance was initially confused on what to cover. I took a moment and organized my thoughts. Basis my profile, I had zeroes in on 2-3 values/virtues that I wanted to elaborate and I majorly stuck to those. Anecdotes, I believe, help substantiate the responses and could be a good approach if you agree on the same.
Panel consisted of an alumnus and an ad-com member. Initial talk I was told not to expect the opening question as "tell us about your professional life till now" but was actually asked this as the first one. I was kind of overjoyed to hear this and in my youthful exuberance was initially confused on what to cover. I took a moment and organized my thoughts. Basis my profile, I had zeroes in on 2-3 values/virtues that I wanted to elaborate and I majorly stuck to those. Anecdotes, I believe, help substantiate the responses and could be a good approach if you agree on the same.
I was asked on my present job responsibilities, the hierarchy in my organization and issues I face. Most of the questions were based on the thing I had portrayed in my essays but revolved around providing more details on situations and personal actions & thought-process. I was then asked the why MBA and why ISB as well in a straight forward manner. Once again, if introspection is thorough these questions are more like connecting the dots. I was kind of satisfied with how the i/v had gone on till then and that kind of eased me. Then I was asked what I intended to do after ISB and if I would be changing paths. I do not intend to but if there is something appealing I would not shy away but mostly I do not and I mentioned the same. Till this time, it was the alum who was asking the questions. The ad-com then chipped in and asked me what I thought is the future of my industry and my views on the next big thing. This was kind of a off-beat question but I liked it. We had a good talk on this point for a significant time. I was then asked on how a particular organization was coping up. This possibly came up because I had mentioned that it was my target organization. This question could have been handled better. Then I was asked on global conferences,etc and a few terminologies which unfortunately I had no idea about. 😞 I mentioned the same and the i/v was wrapped up with the any questions for us.
I just wanted to say that I had not considered any question for the ad-com. It would be great if one could think of something to ask the ad-com.
The panel was attentive and looked interested in hearing about my experiences. In hindsight I think I was slightly nervous and that possibly reflected in my tone but then again I might be over analyzing right now and it is natural to be slightly nervous. Overall, it was a discussion and I would say it was neither good nor bad. Only the results can tell if it was to their expectations. I put my best foot forward and can only hope for the best.
There have been few opinions on the increased class-size, placements, drop in ISB's ranking but I feel that if one has applied and waited through the cycle this 1 year if admitted is a prudent investment and in the long run will only be beneficial in one's intellectual growth. The fees are steep but then no investment ever is really easily affordable or cheap.
Once again thanks for the patience to read through the end and apologies on the timing of this post. I really wish I could have posted this much before. This post probably combines 5-6 ones into one hence the length.
I have a busy schedule today so I am hoping that time flies by today. Wishing all good luck. Do let me know if you co-relate with my 2 cents or if you disagree. All viewpoints are welcome. (wink)
Thanks.
Thanks.
Puys, I called up ISB and they have informed me that the result will be out by 6-7pm today. And candidates will be informed via email. All the best.
@venkatdonthi said:Not too much as long as you are able to compensate with quality work exp. What matters more is what you are in totality when you apply and where can you be after ISB.. That's my take, awaiting the admit invite email today so as long as I don't receive the same this could just be just an assumption..
Yes, i do have a quality work ex in operations n SCM... so will give gmat a try.. but what score in gmat should be considered safe.. imean considering low acads.
n ya.. All the best 2 u buddy...
@sudhir3127 said:Acads incl GMAT are clubbed into one bucket . A high GMAT can definitely set off the not so good undergrad/12th performance . 10th scores are not important and are not even asked in the application.
thanx, it will surely help..!
@srm85 said:GMAT score is valid for 5 years, so you can take it this year and still use it till 2018.
thanks..! will kickstart the prep now..
But can we prepare for both CAT n GMAT in 1 shot... imean the preparation for both is same..?? i have idea of CAT but am an infant afa gmat is concerned....
i hate dis last minute anxiety!
all d best to all!!!!!
All the very best everyone!!