Hey all,
In keeping with the spirit of this thread. I have come up with a blog about life @ Great Lakes this year.
Its been about two weeks since we have started the course and people interested to know the experience can check out my blog:
My Life. My Rules.
suggestions and comments are welcome.
Cheers!!
Vijay Vasant
Class of 2007-2008 (Junior Crusader)
Great Lakes Institute of Management
Hey good job Vijay. That pretty much sums up the amazing time v r having at Great Lakes.
Bhaskar.
great details vvijay777!!!!!!
take care
NEO99
The Dive into a Great Lake!
Filed under: Life @ Great Lakes Vijay Vasant @ 9:42 am Edit This
This blog like many others is about my b-school dream and the journey of my realization of the same. I would like to share thoughts on what, in my opinion, should be the criteria to select a b-school. Also, I want to pen down my experiences from the application to the induction phase at the Great Lakes Institute of Management, not-so-fondly known as GLIM.
Like millions of you out there, I too was in the dilemma of which school to choose for my management studies. The wide spread choice, only added to my confusion. Thats when I came across this relatively new institute, tucked away in one of the sleepy residential areas of Chennai. In the three years since inception, this b-school has already attained what most others cant even dream of. From the variety of placements to the sky-rocketing pay packages, from the best of the faculty and a business advisory council that reads like the whos who of the industry to the most up-to-date course curriculum, this place had an interesting answer to my every question. And the goodies dont stop there; you get all this and more in half the time! It sounded like a win-win situation to me.
The next logical step was making the online application. For the first time, I came across a fully online application (not the ones you print out and send) I dont know of any other institutions that have this system. I needed two recommendation letters (to be sent by post for obvious reasons) I went to my boss and requested for it. My boss was very impressed with the recommendation format, he said that any institution that has put this amount of detailing into a reco letter, is definitely worth it! It always amazes me as to how different things impress different people. The GD and PI followed shortly.
A few weeks later, I was fortunate enough to find my name on the admissions results list.
The next step was to get a bank loan, as I intended to self-finance my studies. The institute had a tie up with the Indian Bank, Saidapet with special interest rates. With the support of the colleges finance department, the loan was relatively hassle-free. Again, my mother was impressed with the pro-active support from the college.
Next, I needed to find accommodation, the college does not have a hostel, but the seniors were ever-willing to help us out with this. It took two days of roaming around in the Chennai heat to finally find a place. But it was worth it, Deepak, Ashish and I moved into Rohits apartment which is barely a minutes walk from college.
April 20th, 2007: Registration for the Junior Crusaders (the name of our batch)
There I was, amongst a sea of unfamiliar faces. 165 of us were welcomed with a folder with our names printed on them and schedule for the next one week all in perfect order. The registration of the certificates and the photos for the RF ID cards were all well organized, but then again, one would not expect any less from a management institute. Nevertheless, I was impressed!
THE INDUCTION.
Induction at Great Lakes is a full 10 day affair. And to kick start the process, we has an aptitude test on the very first day- and this was no ordinary aptitude test- our lives and careers depended on this. The PGPM director walked in announced the details of the test-there would be equal number of questions from marketing, finance, HR and systems. And depending on the results, we would be told what specialization to take up. A little confused and nervous, we walked into the respective exam halls and there came an exam paper that looked like Greek and Latin, never had I seen such incomprehendible language-the paper was an absolute killer. All our dreams were shattered. Maybe, I dint have aptitude for anything! The PGPM director and some of the seniors walked in saying that they were disappointed with the results and that the specializations they would call out is what we would have to take up. Everyone was screaming no fair and some girls even had tears rolling uncontrollably. One of the seniors walked up to the podium and in a very serious tone said that one day he would tell his grandchildren that he made a bakra out of 165 of us!! On the projector there was a ppt slide saying BAKRAthe whole thing was a prank! Thank God! What a way to start the course! Well, all I can say is that we will have to better the prank next year!
Great Lakes is a student owned, student run organization in every sense of the term. Here, the students are the stake holders. This gives us the students the authority and the responsibility to undertake all tasks from admissions to placements, from the food committee to the honor code committee. I guess this is one of the reasons that the everyone at Great Lakes has this strong sense of belonging and pride. The seniors made presentations about all the committees that they had formed and gave us suggestions on how we should take it forward.
No article on Great Lakes would be complete without the mention of our Uncle Bala-the founder and honorary dean. We had the privilege to witness his contagious enthusiasm for the convocation of the senior batch and the inauguration of our batch. The event was conducted in the Chennai Trade Centre (very beautiful place) the governor of Tamil Nadu, Mr. Surjeet Singh Barnala and Mrs. Sudha Murthy presided over the event. Mrs. Murthy gave us a very inspirational talk about managers should be compassionate.
We had three tests on financial accountancy, micro-economics and statistics and business math. The college had couriered the study material to our homes for this test. Another indicator that these guys mean business.
This blog is getting too longso Im going to skip out on the details and give you all a gist of what followed.
I have been here for just ten days and the exposure has already been phenomenal. We have interacted with the Mr. Jamshyd Godrej (Chairman&MD; Godrej), Mr. Mahandran (Godrej-Sara Lee), Mr. Shrinivas (CEO -ITC) and Mr. Ranganath (CEO Grundfos Pumps), had guest lectures from a communication expert who also does classes at the IIMs, met with an attitude consultant, a class on leadership management and change management. Went for industrial visits to ITC, Grundfos Pumps, Sundaram Clayton and Brakes India.
And of course, we had the ever so popular outbound camp. We were all taken to a beach resort on ECRbeautiful property. We were split into three groups and all us had sessions which included management and leadership games, outbound activities like blind volley ball and other fun stuff. We even had yoga, dance (salsa and jive) skits and the trip was what one can call fun packed two days. The outbound camp helped us get familiar with our batcha batch that truly defines diversity-there is at least 1 guy from any place you can think of! There is even a guy with 14 years of work-ex, 2 medical doctors, IT professionals, HR consultants, marine engineersthis list could go on forever.
In between all this we had an alumini meet and the sangamitra, I must say our seniors put up an excellent show. They have set the benchmark for our performance and its very high! Hope we will be able to live up to everyones expectations
It really is impossible to put in all the stuff that happened in 10 days into a few pages- because that much happens here!!
I think the institutes first name will summarize the recent events, as they all have been truly great!
I would like to thank all the CRUSADERS for all the support and wish my fellow JCs the very best. The year ahead is going change our descriptions for the word hectic -lets take up the challenge!
Thanks for reading!
Cheers!!
Filed under: Life @ Great Lakes Vijay Vasant @ 9:42 am Edit This
This blog like many others is about my b-school dream and the journey of my realization of the same. I would like to share thoughts on what, in my opinion, should be the criteria to select a b-school. Also, I want to pen down my experiences from the application to the induction phase at the Great Lakes Institute of Management, not-so-fondly known as GLIM.
Like millions of you out there, I too was in the dilemma of which school to choose for my management studies. The wide spread choice, only added to my confusion. Thats when I came across this relatively new institute, tucked away in one of the sleepy residential areas of Chennai. In the three years since inception, this b-school has already attained what most others cant even dream of. From the variety of placements to the sky-rocketing pay packages, from the best of the faculty and a business advisory council that reads like the whos who of the industry to the most up-to-date course curriculum, this place had an interesting answer to my every question. And the goodies dont stop there; you get all this and more in half the time! It sounded like a win-win situation to me.
The next logical step was making the online application. For the first time, I came across a fully online application (not the ones you print out and send) I dont know of any other institutions that have this system. I needed two recommendation letters (to be sent by post for obvious reasons) I went to my boss and requested for it. My boss was very impressed with the recommendation format, he said that any institution that has put this amount of detailing into a reco letter, is definitely worth it! It always amazes me as to how different things impress different people. The GD and PI followed shortly.
A few weeks later, I was fortunate enough to find my name on the admissions results list.
The next step was to get a bank loan, as I intended to self-finance my studies. The institute had a tie up with the Indian Bank, Saidapet with special interest rates. With the support of the colleges finance department, the loan was relatively hassle-free. Again, my mother was impressed with the pro-active support from the college.
Next, I needed to find accommodation, the college does not have a hostel, but the seniors were ever-willing to help us out with this. It took two days of roaming around in the Chennai heat to finally find a place. But it was worth it, Deepak, Ashish and I moved into Rohits apartment which is barely a minutes walk from college.
April 20th, 2007: Registration for the Junior Crusaders (the name of our batch)
There I was, amongst a sea of unfamiliar faces. 165 of us were welcomed with a folder with our names printed on them and schedule for the next one week all in perfect order. The registration of the certificates and the photos for the RF ID cards were all well organized, but then again, one would not expect any less from a management institute. Nevertheless, I was impressed!
THE INDUCTION.
Induction at Great Lakes is a full 10 day affair. And to kick start the process, we has an aptitude test on the very first day- and this was no ordinary aptitude test- our lives and careers depended on this. The PGPM director walked in announced the details of the test-there would be equal number of questions from marketing, finance, HR and systems. And depending on the results, we would be told what specialization to take up. A little confused and nervous, we walked into the respective exam halls and there came an exam paper that looked like Greek and Latin, never had I seen such incomprehendible language-the paper was an absolute killer. All our dreams were shattered. Maybe, I dint have aptitude for anything! The PGPM director and some of the seniors walked in saying that they were disappointed with the results and that the specializations they would call out is what we would have to take up. Everyone was screaming no fair and some girls even had tears rolling uncontrollably. One of the seniors walked up to the podium and in a very serious tone said that one day he would tell his grandchildren that he made a bakra out of 165 of us!! On the projector there was a ppt slide saying BAKRAthe whole thing was a prank! Thank God! What a way to start the course! Well, all I can say is that we will have to better the prank next year!
Great Lakes is a student owned, student run organization in every sense of the term. Here, the students are the stake holders. This gives us the students the authority and the responsibility to undertake all tasks from admissions to placements, from the food committee to the honor code committee. I guess this is one of the reasons that the everyone at Great Lakes has this strong sense of belonging and pride. The seniors made presentations about all the committees that they had formed and gave us suggestions on how we should take it forward.
No article on Great Lakes would be complete without the mention of our Uncle Bala-the founder and honorary dean. We had the privilege to witness his contagious enthusiasm for the convocation of the senior batch and the inauguration of our batch. The event was conducted in the Chennai Trade Centre (very beautiful place) the governor of Tamil Nadu, Mr. Surjeet Singh Barnala and Mrs. Sudha Murthy presided over the event. Mrs. Murthy gave us a very inspirational talk about managers should be compassionate.
We had three tests on financial accountancy, micro-economics and statistics and business math. The college had couriered the study material to our homes for this test. Another indicator that these guys mean business.
This blog is getting too longso Im going to skip out on the details and give you all a gist of what followed.
I have been here for just ten days and the exposure has already been phenomenal. We have interacted with the Mr. Jamshyd Godrej (Chairman&MD; Godrej), Mr. Mahandran (Godrej-Sara Lee), Mr. Shrinivas (CEO -ITC) and Mr. Ranganath (CEO Grundfos Pumps), had guest lectures from a communication expert who also does classes at the IIMs, met with an attitude consultant, a class on leadership management and change management. Went for industrial visits to ITC, Grundfos Pumps, Sundaram Clayton and Brakes India.
And of course, we had the ever so popular outbound camp. We were all taken to a beach resort on ECRbeautiful property. We were split into three groups and all us had sessions which included management and leadership games, outbound activities like blind volley ball and other fun stuff. We even had yoga, dance (salsa and jive) skits and the trip was what one can call fun packed two days. The outbound camp helped us get familiar with our batcha batch that truly defines diversity-there is at least 1 guy from any place you can think of! There is even a guy with 14 years of work-ex, 2 medical doctors, IT professionals, HR consultants, marine engineersthis list could go on forever.
In between all this we had an alumini meet and the sangamitra, I must say our seniors put up an excellent show. They have set the benchmark for our performance and its very high! Hope we will be able to live up to everyones expectations
It really is impossible to put in all the stuff that happened in 10 days into a few pages- because that much happens here!!
I think the institutes first name will summarize the recent events, as they all have been truly great!
I would like to thank all the CRUSADERS for all the support and wish my fellow JCs the very best. The year ahead is going change our descriptions for the word hectic -lets take up the challenge!
Thanks for reading!
Cheers!!
Great job,Vijay!! Well done!!
Please keep up the good work.
Georgia State University's Entrepreneurial team visits Great Lakes. Check out the details at:
http://www.pagalguy.com/index.php?categoryid=44&p2;_articleid=810
Cheers,
Bhaskar.
Hello friends,
I plan on apply to Glakes next year. I have a couple of questions on the placement front:
1. What kind of salary can one expect with 3 yrs of IT workex?
2. What kind of job profile would be offered with 3 yrs IT workex and specialization in IT and Operations?
I need to know these to evaluate the investment in MBA.
Thanks.
Rahul
Hi Rahul,
The avg salary last year was 9.3 LPA.
You can visit Great Lakes Institute of Management, Chennai for details.
The profiles offered would be the same as those offered in the best b-schools of the country.
Please post ur admission queries @
http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/life-great-lakes-inst-of-mgmt-chennai-25008757
Sorry.. Please post your admission queries @
Sorry.. Please post your admission queries @
http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/great-lakes-admissions-2008-25023738
Hello Everybody,
I am a current 1 year MBA student of Great Lakes Institute of Management,Chennai.
Anyone having queries about the college or about the admissions for 2008, go ahead and shoot.
Will try to answer as best as I can.
For all the queries, please visit the thread 'Great Lakes Admission 2008' under CAT & Related Discussion.
Link: http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/great-lakes-admissions-2008-25023738
I am a current 1 year MBA student of Great Lakes Institute of Management,Chennai.
Anyone having queries about the college or about the admissions for 2008, go ahead and shoot.
Will try to answer as best as I can.
For all the queries, please visit the thread 'Great Lakes Admission 2008' under CAT & Related Discussion.
Link: http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/great-lakes-admissions-2008-25023738
Hi All,
We are having a PG GMAT MEET in Chennai on coming Sunday, 8th of July
. A couple of admits from top schools and a few aspirants have already agreed to join in:). Interested Chennai or nearby Puys can PM me or just visit and contribute to the forum.
http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/pg-gmat-meets-chennai-25020491
Cheers!
Sourabh
We are having a PG GMAT MEET in Chennai on coming Sunday, 8th of July
. A couple of admits from top schools and a few aspirants have already agreed to join in:). Interested Chennai or nearby Puys can PM me or just visit and contribute to the forum.http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/pg-gmat-meets-chennai-25020491
Cheers!
Sourabh
Hi All,
Lets get started with 'MEET THE DEAN' session.
All are invited to attend the session. Our Honourable Dean Bala Balachandran will address you all. The dates for the session are as follows:
Place Date
Chennai 27-Jul
Mumbai 31-Jul
Delhi 4-Aug
Hyderabad 26-Aug
Bangalore 29-Jul
The dates for Kolkatta is yet to be finalised. Will let you know the exact location in a few days. If you have any queries, please post it @ Great Lakes Admissions 2008 thread..
Cheers,
GLaker.
Hi All,
Dr.Bala V. Balachandran,our Honorary Dean will meet the prospective students as per the schedule mentioned below.
Place Date
Chennai 27-Jul
Bangalore 29-Jul
Mumbai 31-Jul
Delhi 4-Aug
Hyderabad 26-Aug
Take a moment to register yourself @ Great Lakes Institute of Management, Chennai . We will get in touch with you with information on the venue and time.
There is a limited number of seats available. So please register as soon as possible.
We will come up with the schedule for other cities soon. Will update u about the same later.
Cheers,
GLaker
Hi All,
Dr.Bala V. Balachandran,our Honorary Dean will meet the prospective students as per the schedule mentioned below.
Place Date
Chennai 27-Jul
Bangalore 29-Jul
Mumbai 31-Jul
Delhi 4-Aug
Hyderabad 26-Aug
Take a moment to register yourself @ Great Lakes Institute of Management, Chennai . We will get in touch with you with information on the venue and time.
There is a limited number of seats available. So please register as soon as possible.
We will come up with the schedule for other cities soon. Will update u about the same later.
Cheers,
GLaker
is this open to anyone who is interested or is it targetting a specific audience , say ppl with a certain profile or a certain amount of work ex ?
atshubha Saysis this open to anyone who is interested or is it targetting a specific audience , say ppl with a certain profile or a certain amount of work ex ?
Hi,
It is open to everyone who is interested....
Cheers,
Glaker
Hi PGs,
The venue and time for Meet The Dean sessions are as follows:
Place Chennai
Date 27-Jul
Venue Great Lakes Institute of Management
24 South Mada Street
Srinagar Colony
Saidapet
Chennai 600015
Time 6:30 to 8 pm
Place Banglore
Date 29-Jul
Venue Ramana Shree Brunton
Brunton Road
Off M.G Road
Banglore 560001
Time 6:30 to 8 pm
Place Mumbai
Date 31-Jul
Venue Golden Swan Club
Plot NO. 110, Service Road,
Off Hanuman Road
Vile parle(East)
Mumbai 560001
Time 6:30 to 8 pm
Place Delhi
Date 4-Aug
Venue INDIA INTERENATIONAL CENTRE
40 Max Muller Marg
Near Lodhi Road
New Delhi - 110 003
Time 6:30 to 8 pm
Place Hyderbad
Date 25-Aug
Venue The Walden Club
C/O Whisper Valley
Near Padma nair Studio
Raidurg ( Darga)
Jublee Hills
Hyderbad 500008
Time 6:30 to 8 pm
For further details please PM me.....
Cheers,
Glaker.
The Dive into a Great Lake!
Filed under: Life @ Great Lakes Vijay Vasant @ 9:42 am Edit This
This blog like many others is about my b-school dream and the journey of my realization of the same. I would like to share thoughts on what, in my opinion, should be the criteria to select a b-school. Also, I want to pen down my experiences from the application to the induction phase at the Great Lakes Institute of Management, not-so-fondly known as GLIM.
Like millions of you out there, I too was in the dilemma of which school to choose for my management studies. The wide spread choice, only added to my confusion. Thats when I came across this relatively new institute, tucked away in one of the sleepy residential areas of Chennai. In the three years since inception, this b-school has already attained what most others cant even dream of. From the variety of placements to the sky-rocketing pay packages, from the best of the faculty and a business advisory council that reads like the whos who of the industry to the most up-to-date course curriculum, this place had an interesting answer to my every question. And the goodies dont stop there; you get all this and more in half the time! It sounded like a win-win situation to me.
The next logical step was making the online application. For the first time, I came across a fully online application (not the ones you print out and send) I dont know of any other institutions that have this system. I needed two recommendation letters (to be sent by post for obvious reasons) I went to my boss and requested for it. My boss was very impressed with the recommendation format, he said that any institution that has put this amount of detailing into a reco letter, is definitely worth it! It always amazes me as to how different things impress different people. The GD and PI followed shortly.
A few weeks later, I was fortunate enough to find my name on the admissions results list.
The next step was to get a bank loan, as I intended to self-finance my studies. The institute had a tie up with the Indian Bank, Saidapet with special interest rates. With the support of the colleges finance department, the loan was relatively hassle-free. Again, my mother was impressed with the pro-active support from the college.
Next, I needed to find accommodation, the college does not have a hostel, but the seniors were ever-willing to help us out with this. It took two days of roaming around in the Chennai heat to finally find a place. But it was worth it, Deepak, Ashish and I moved into Rohits apartment which is barely a minutes walk from college.
April 20th, 2007: Registration for the Junior Crusaders (the name of our batch)
There I was, amongst a sea of unfamiliar faces. 165 of us were welcomed with a folder with our names printed on them and schedule for the next one week all in perfect order. The registration of the certificates and the photos for the RF ID cards were all well organized, but then again, one would not expect any less from a management institute. Nevertheless, I was impressed!
THE INDUCTION.
Induction at Great Lakes is a full 10 day affair. And to kick start the process, we has an aptitude test on the very first day- and this was no ordinary aptitude test- our lives and careers depended on this. The PGPM director walked in announced the details of the test-there would be equal number of questions from marketing, finance, HR and systems. And depending on the results, we would be told what specialization to take up. A little confused and nervous, we walked into the respective exam halls and there came an exam paper that looked like Greek and Latin, never had I seen such incomprehendible language-the paper was an absolute killer. All our dreams were shattered. Maybe, I dint have aptitude for anything! The PGPM director and some of the seniors walked in saying that they were disappointed with the results and that the specializations they would call out is what we would have to take up. Everyone was screaming no fair and some girls even had tears rolling uncontrollably. One of the seniors walked up to the podium and in a very serious tone said that one day he would tell his grandchildren that he made a bakra out of 165 of us!! On the projector there was a ppt slide saying BAKRAthe whole thing was a prank! Thank God! What a way to start the course! Well, all I can say is that we will have to better the prank next year!
Great Lakes is a student owned, student run organization in every sense of the term. Here, the students are the stake holders. This gives us the students the authority and the responsibility to undertake all tasks from admissions to placements, from the food committee to the honor code committee. I guess this is one of the reasons that the everyone at Great Lakes has this strong sense of belonging and pride. The seniors made presentations about all the committees that they had formed and gave us suggestions on how we should take it forward.
No article on Great Lakes would be complete without the mention of our Uncle Bala-the founder and honorary dean. We had the privilege to witness his contagious enthusiasm for the convocation of the senior batch and the inauguration of our batch. The event was conducted in the Chennai Trade Centre (very beautiful place) the governor of Tamil Nadu, Mr. Surjeet Singh Barnala and Mrs. Sudha Murthy presided over the event. Mrs. Murthy gave us a very inspirational talk about managers should be compassionate.
We had three tests on financial accountancy, micro-economics and statistics and business math. The college had couriered the study material to our homes for this test. Another indicator that these guys mean business.
This blog is getting too longso Im going to skip out on the details and give you all a gist of what followed.
I have been here for just ten days and the exposure has already been phenomenal. We have interacted with the Mr. Jamshyd Godrej (Chairman&MD; Godrej), Mr. Mahandran (Godrej-Sara Lee), Mr. Shrinivas (CEO -ITC) and Mr. Ranganath (CEO Grundfos Pumps), had guest lectures from a communication expert who also does classes at the IIMs, met with an attitude consultant, a class on leadership management and change management. Went for industrial visits to ITC, Grundfos Pumps, Sundaram Clayton and Brakes India.
And of course, we had the ever so popular outbound camp. We were all taken to a beach resort on ECRbeautiful property. We were split into three groups and all us had sessions which included management and leadership games, outbound activities like blind volley ball and other fun stuff. We even had yoga, dance (salsa and jive) skits and the trip was what one can call fun packed two days. The outbound camp helped us get familiar with our batcha batch that truly defines diversity-there is at least 1 guy from any place you can think of! There is even a guy with 14 years of work-ex, 2 medical doctors, IT professionals, HR consultants, marine engineersthis list could go on forever.
In between all this we had an alumini meet and the sangamitra, I must say our seniors put up an excellent show. They have set the benchmark for our performance and its very high! Hope we will be able to live up to everyones expectations
It really is impossible to put in all the stuff that happened in 10 days into a few pages- because that much happens here!!
I think the institutes first name will summarize the recent events, as they all have been truly great!
I would like to thank all the CRUSADERS for all the support and wish my fellow JCs the very best. The year ahead is going change our descriptions for the word hectic -lets take up the challenge!
Thanks for reading!
Cheers!!
Nice one dude!
Keep up the good work and all the very best!
Manik Kinra
Crusader Batch
Hi PGs,
The venue and time for Meet The Dean sessions are as follows:
Place Chennai
Date 27-Jul
Venue Great Lakes Institute of Management
24 South Mada Street
Srinagar Colony
Saidapet
Chennai 600015
Time 6:30 to 8 pm
Place Banglore
Date 29-Jul
Venue Ramana Shree Brunton
Brunton Road
Off M.G Road
Banglore 560001
Time 6:30 to 8 pm
Place Mumbai
Date 31-Jul
Venue Golden Swan Club
Plot NO. 110, Service Road,
Off Hanuman Road
Vile parle(East)
Mumbai 560001
Time 6:30 to 8 pm
Place Delhi
Date 4-Aug
Venue INDIA INTERENATIONAL CENTRE
40 Max Muller Marg
Near Lodhi Road
New Delhi - 110 003
Time 6:30 to 8 pm
Place Hyderbad
Date 25-Aug
Venue The Walden Club
C/O Whisper Valley
Near Padma nair Studio
Raidurg ( Darga)
Jublee Hills
Hyderbad 500008
Time 6:30 to 8 pm
For further details please PM me.....
Cheers,
Glaker.
Hi alumnii,
can anyone pls tell me the CAT score required for GLakes..
thanks in anticipation
Hi GLakers,
What is the min Work Ex required for admissions in GLIM???
Thanks for ur time,
JOHNNY