Boss promotion ka fast track ka kya hisab hai thoda puchna and salary increase hone ka bhi kuch hai woh bhi puchna...
sure dude...i ll update u in detail ASAP... 2014-18 me retirements bahut hai ....so promotion jaldi hi honge ....(min 3-4 saal gujaro 1 cadre me aur promotion lo)
yaar koi new india walo se bhi information nikalwao....ki new india me home posting prefer karte hain ki nhi....har company ki alag policy.... nicl me sabhi kah rhe thee ki home state hi dete hain par new india ka kisi ko nhi pata....waise it doesnt matters a lot kyunki join to karna hi hai....bt still pata chale to achha hai :)
@ferocious002 what would be my home state!!! my domicile is Bihar but recently(june) I got married so I am residing in Bangalore???please confirm with your friend .. I want bangalore as posting. same i mentioned in prefrence also.when i filled the form i was single so permanent address was patna and address of correspondence was bangalore as i am working here too... when i got interviewd things remained same but address of correspondence oviously changed but in bangalore.. I know bit complex.. but help me in simplyfying this!!!!!!!!
yaar koi new india walo se bhi information nikalwao....ki new india me home posting prefer karte hain ki nhi....har company ki alag policy.... nicl me sabhi kah rhe thee ki home state hi dete hain par new india ka kisi ko nhi pata....waise it doesnt matters a lot kyunki join to karna hi hai....bt still pata chale to achha hai@ferocious002 did he knew abt new india also??????
not much info bout new india .....but hoping dat all 4 companies hv same policies....... he told me that new india is dominating in west and south west side of india........ie , gujrat, rajasthan,maharastra.etc.....so majority of joining is there...... nicl and oicl are dominating in northern and northern eastern side..ie ,kolkata to biharr .up .delhi ..punjab etc....so there joining is in north side mostly. uiic dominates in south. this info is NOT my guess ..it is wat my frnd told me .....
@ferocious002 what would be my home state!!! my domicile is Bihar but recently(june) I got married so I am residing in Bangalore???please confirm with your friend .. I want bangalore as posting. same i mentioned in prefrence also.when i filled the form i was single so permanent address was patna and address of correspondence was bangalore as i am working here too... when i got interviewd things remained same but address of correspondence oviously changed but in bangalore.. I know bit complex.. but help me in simplyfying this!!!!!!!!
dont worry ...u wll get bangalore.....in data sheet they asked ur marital status....so they will take care of that .... if u hv mentioned ur address of correspondence and permanent addres as bihar ....then they will prefer dat ....bcoz homestate is by default first choice and if vacanicies r not available in home state then they see ur prefernces ...... coz my frnd frnd told me that there was a girl last year ...she left nicl after training,,and paid rs .25000 as bond penalty ...for the same reason .....that her hometown was lucknow ...but she was married by the tym and she had to leave lucknow to go with her husband......so finally she left nicl ......... i will ask him in details in this regards.........
@ferocious002 can u please help me in this regard.....there is a problem in my relieving... am working in HP... as per HP policy i have to serve 2 months notice period... but as the tentative joining date is 17th Dec, i cant serve for 2 months... so i talked with my supervisor and ops manager... but they said its not at all possible to relieve early... also i asked for buyout option... but they said only on medical grounds buyout option is possible... so now i dont know wat to do.... will i get any problem in nicl if i dont submit my releiving letter... do nicl require experience certificate for sure... also i have written just 3 days to join in nicl.... please ask your friend and let me know about this... thank u bro....
Hi all i know few puys got selected for NICL or NIACL are working in Infosys, just want to know what shall be our next step, like i am a confirmed employee, i need to serve 3 months of notice period which i can't now. So what's the process like talk to manager, HR.. Any info kindly share or PM me, i did some research on my part, but need more input.
@ferocious002 dost thanks for the info..u shared ...i am selected for finance dept.....is training for fin dept. also remains the same like generalist...i mean at pune only and what about posting of fin. dep. guys....
questions were asked by me .....and answer were given by my frnd(who is an ao in nicl,2011 batch)QUES: Training kahan...??ANS: most probably NIA,PUNE ..coz generalist batch consists of apprx 200 students....last year also same no .of candidates ....so agar sab normal hota hai to NIA me hi hogi training..QUES: Training kahi aur bhi ho sakti hai kya...??ANS : possibility kam hai ...kyuKI no. of candidates are large ...so NIA,pune me hi hogi .....but last year jab hum log training k liye gaye to koi kuch padhta(study) wadhta nhi tha ....sab training choor k baaki saare kaam krte hai pune me ..........to humare batch me bhi kisi ne kuch padhai wadhai nhi ki thi .....uska naateeja yeh tha ki jab posting hui to kisi ko kuch aata hi nhi tha ..not even basics were clear....tab aisa sunane me aay tha ki next year se kuch naya procedure ho sakta hai ......but again sab rumors hai jab finally ho jai tab manana ......warna to jitne muh ..utni baatein .....QUES: Training me accomodation..??ANS :last year they provided HOTEL VITS (4 STAR LUXURY HOTEL) ...(GOOGLE IT...!!)QUES: accomodation after training ....??ANS: no accomodation after training....HRA WILL BE GIVEN according to status of the city of posting(tier 1 city......and so on )QUES: SOME GUYs told me that we geting rs. 10000 for accomodation ......is it true ..??ANS : ONLY IN METRO TIER 1 CITIES LIKE KOLKATA CHENNAI DELHI AND MUMBAI......IN DAT CASE UR HRA IS not given to u ......also dat makes ur salary 40000(approx)....it means u hv to pay more INCOME TAX ....in comparison to the person who is not getting those extra 10000rs ......so jo metro cities me hai unka in hand 30000 k around padta hai aur jo non metro cities me hai ...unka bhi itna hi hai .....coz in first case rs 10000 extra but income tax which u pay also increase ...(and he told me many more things about income tax ...and details.....jo mujhe samajh nhi aaya but uski summary wahi hai jo maine upar likhi hai.....)QUES: any other allowances...??ANS : MEDICAL rs 8000/year.....newspaper rs2400/year .......and few more....QUES : TRAINING BFORE posting or POSTING BFORE TRAINING....??ANS : LAST YEAR PLACE OF POSTING was told on the last day of training ....hope the trend continues...but anything can happen .....kabhi bhi bata sakte hai posting wo .....also it is not a big issue pehle pata chale ya baad me ..join to krna hi hai ............but last year yahi hua tha ..QUES: IS TRAINING ACCORDING TO MERIT WISE or sumthing like dat...??ANS : EXACTLY I DONT KNOW but agar vacancy hoti hai to home town bhi mil jata hai ..koi badi baat nhi hai ....last year 6people were from lucknow(3 girls ,3 boyzz)....all 3 girls and 2 boyzz got lucknow ....only 1 was the one who didn't got lucknow.......and sadly 1 of those girlzz...left the job after training and before joining in lucknow and she paid rs 25,000 for breaking the bond.......QUES: WORK CULTURE & PROMOTIONS...??ANS : free to come and go ......but make sure alloted work is done in tym and . i sumtym use to leave office at as early as 2 pm ....but on other hand ...work late till 8 pm ......so it all depends on u .....bas kisi ka koi pressure nhi hai jada......pure sarkari ....in this regard...QUES: SATURDAY KO OFFICE JAANE ME EXTRA PAISA MILTA HAI ...??ANS: no ,in any govt job ...officer rank people never get extra paid for going offices on sat/sun........only clerical staff gets paid for such..............officer going to office on sat/sun shows his inefficiency to do work .......jo kaam 1 AO ko 5 din me krna tha wo 6-7 din me kroge sat/sun jo jaake ...dis show his laziness...............................................................................................................................................guyzz baat kaafi lambi hui thi ...sayad mai kuch bhool gya ho to plz post ur questions....if any .......if i can ...i will surely answer it ......hope u all are satisfied wid this .....
regarding leased accomodation....he told me dat leased accomodation is provided by the company and cost is reimbursed by nicl ......in tier 1 cities ...rs 10000, tier 2 cities its 5000-6000,tier 3 cities it is 3500(apprx)........but in dat case HRA(rs 1800) is not given to u.......also reimbursement amount (rs10000,5000 or 3500 watever the case may be ) adds to ur total monthly salary it comes out to be 40000(apprX)and u hv to pay income tax in accordance to ur new salary( now income tax which u hv to pay will be more)
HOW TO AVOID PAYING INCOME TAX:
i asked my father (a central govt .employee) in this regard ...he told me that if u buy few policies of LIC (life insurance) or NOC from POSTAL DEPARTMENT and keep on paying them premium ,then u will be exempted from paying income tax........... so i think its better to invest that money in LIC than to simply let it go off by paying income tax.. atleast u can claim the money from LIC in case of life injury, but income tax ka paisa 1 baar gaya to kuch nhi milna hai usse..... if anybody knows more in this REGARD ,plz discuss..
@ferocious002 dost thanks for the info..u shared ...i am selected for finance dept.....is training for fin dept. also remains the same like generalist...i mean at pune only and what about posting of fin. dep. guys....
specialist category training is in kolkata(according to last years trend) ....and posting will be in any regional office of nicl ...anywhere in india ... in specialist category getting a posting in ur hometown is difficult ,coz specialist are posted only in regional offices in initial years of services....but again if ur hometown has nicl's regional office chances r dat u get ur posting there......UNLIKE generalist ,who can b posted even in branch offices ,so even if generalist candidate's hometown has only branch office (no regional office) his chances r higher of getting a hometown easily as compared to specialist category candidate. hope this answer ur query.....
dont worry ...u wll get bangalore.....in data sheet they asked ur marital status....so they will take care of that .... if u hv mentioned ur address of correspondence and permanent addres as bihar ....then they will prefer dat ....bcoz homestate is by default first choice and if vacanicies r not available in home state then they see ur prefernces ...... coz my frnd frnd told me that there was a girl last year ...she left nicl after training,,and paid rs .25000 as bond penalty ...for the same reason .....that her hometown was lucknow ...but she was married by the tym and she had to leave lucknow to go with her husband......so finally she left nicl .........i will ask him in details in this regards.........
according to 2012 nicl notification: "Candidates resigning from the Company during the probationary period and candidates whose services are terminated by the Company during the probationary period shall be liable to pay the salary received by them during their entire service in the Company in addition to an amount of Rs.25, 000/- towards partial cost of training. No lien/bond executed to retain a substantive post with present employer will be binding upon the Company and no leave Salary or Pension Contribution will be..............."
that girl left nicl just after training....so only 25000 hi banata hai uska...coz she didnt recieved any salary....... hope u got it pandit ji...
according to 2012 nicl notification:"Candidates resigning from the Company during the probationary period and candidates whose services are terminated by the Company during the probationary period shall be liable to pay the salary received by them during their entire service in the Company in addition to an amount of Rs.25, 000/- towards partial cost of training. No lien/bond executed to retain a substantive post with present employer will be binding upon the Company and no leave Salary or Pension Contribution will be..............."that girl left nicl just after training....so only 25000 hi banata hai uska...coz she didnt recieved any salary.......hope u got it pandit ji...
@ferocious002 can u please help me in this regard.....there is a problem in my relieving... am working in HP... as per HP policy i have to serve 2 months notice period... but as the tentative joining date is 17th Dec, i cant serve for 2 months... so i talked with my supervisor and ops manager... but they said its not at all possible to relieve early... also i asked for buyout option... but they said only on medical grounds buyout option is possible... so now i dont know wat to do.... will i get any problem in nicl if i dont submit my releiving letter... do nicl require experience certificate for sure... also i have written just 3 days to join in nicl.... please ask your friend and let me know about this... thank u bro....
buddy wait for 1-2 dayzz ....i will surely tell u ....wat to do .....but wait for 1-2 days .....guyzz who r working plz suggest sumthing here ...@crabn3bula ...help ...!!
@ferocious002@udayas4 ....bhai galti to tumne ki hai..bina details jane notice period 3 days likh k..but koi baat nahi.....u can do 2 things...
ya to apne manager/HR se personally baat karo ki...notice period ko thoda kam kar de...let say 1.5 months....and just after ur medical resign from HP(start ur notice period)..let say ki u are done wid medical on 5 nov..so till 15 nov 1.5 months will be completed.
second thing u can do is...ask NICL for extension period....amujhe banks ka pata hai wo .upto 3 months extension easily dete hai..NICL ka kuch pata nahi but u can try....
questions were asked by me .....and answer were given by my frnd(who is an ao in nicl,2011 batch)QUES: Training kahan...??ANS: most probably NIA,PUNE ..coz generalist batch consists of apprx 200 students....last year also same no .of candidates ....so agar sab normal hota hai to NIA me hi hogi training..QUES: Training kahi aur bhi ho sakti hai kya...??ANS : possibility kam hai ...kyuKI no. of candidates are large ...so NIA,pune me hi hogi .....but last year jab hum log training k liye gaye to koi kuch padhta(study) wadhta nhi tha ....sab training choor k baaki saare kaam krte hai pune me ..........to humare batch me bhi kisi ne kuch padhai wadhai nhi ki thi .....uska naateeja yeh tha ki jab posting hui to kisi ko kuch aata hi nhi tha ..not even basics were clear....tab aisa sunane me aay tha ki next year se kuch naya procedure ho sakta hai ......but again sab rumors hai jab finally ho jai tab manana ......warna to jitne muh ..utni baatein .....QUES: Training me accomodation..??ANS :last year they provided HOTEL VITS (4 STAR LUXURY HOTEL) ...(GOOGLE IT...!!)QUES: accomodation after training ....??ANS: no accomodation after training....HRA WILL BE GIVEN according to status of the city of posting(tier 1 city......and so on )QUES: SOME GUYs told me that we geting rs. 10000 for accomodation ......is it true ..??ANS : ONLY IN METRO TIER 1 CITIES LIKE KOLKATA CHENNAI DELHI AND MUMBAI......IN DAT CASE UR HRA IS not given to u ......also dat makes ur salary 40000(approx)....it means u hv to pay more INCOME TAX ....in comparison to the person who is not getting those extra 10000rs ......so jo metro cities me hai unka in hand 30000 k around padta hai aur jo non metro cities me hai ...unka bhi itna hi hai .....coz in first case rs 10000 extra but income tax which u pay also increase ...(and he told me many more things about income tax ...and details.....jo mujhe samajh nhi aaya but uski summary wahi hai jo maine upar likhi hai.....)QUES: any other allowances...??ANS : MEDICAL rs 8000/year.....newspaper rs2400/year .......and few more....QUES : TRAINING BFORE posting or POSTING BFORE TRAINING....??ANS : LAST YEAR PLACE OF POSTING was told on the last day of training ....hope the trend continues...but anything can happen .....kabhi bhi bata sakte hai posting wo .....also it is not a big issue pehle pata chale ya baad me ..join to krna hi hai ............but last year yahi hua tha ..QUES: IS TRAINING ACCORDING TO MERIT WISE or sumthing like dat...??ANS : EXACTLY I DONT KNOW but agar vacancy hoti hai to home town bhi mil jata hai ..koi badi baat nhi hai ....last year 6people were from lucknow(3 girls ,3 boyzz)....all 3 girls and 2 boyzz got lucknow ....only 1 was the one who didn't got lucknow.......and sadly 1 of those girlzz...left the job after training and before joining in lucknow and she paid rs 25,000 for breaking the bond.......QUES: WORK CULTURE & PROMOTIONS...??ANS : free to come and go ......but make sure alloted work is done in tym and . i sumtym use to leave office at as early as 2 pm ....but on other hand ...work late till 8 pm ......so it all depends on u .....bas kisi ka koi pressure nhi hai jada......pure sarkari ....in this regard...QUES: SATURDAY KO OFFICE JAANE ME EXTRA PAISA MILTA HAI ...??ANS: no ,in any govt job ...officer rank people never get extra paid for going offices on sat/sun........only clerical staff gets paid for such..............officer going to office on sat/sun shows his inefficiency to do work .......jo kaam 1 AO ko 5 din me krna tha wo 6-7 din me kroge sat/sun jo jaake ...dis show his laziness...............................................................................................................................................guyzz baat kaafi lambi hui thi ...sayad mai kuch bhool gya ho to plz post ur questions....if any .......if i can ...i will surely answer it ......hope u all are satisfied wid this .....
Even my friend told the same things... apart from "we wont get extra pay if we work on Saturdays"... I'll ask him again ki kya scene hai...
@ferocious002 ..bhai jaha tak tax avoid karne ki baat hai...i will tell u...
for income slab 2 lac-5 lac there is 10% income tax...
so we will come in this bracket...ab let say ur salary is 4.5 lac pa...and ur PF contribution is 25 thousand and ur HRA is around 2000 pm(HRA ka exact formula nahi pata mujhe)....
to 25k(PF)+(2*12=24k) total 49 k will not be treated as income for income tax purpose...so tumhari income ho gyi....
4.5 lac- 49 k = 4.1 lac ya phir keh lo 4 lac
ab tum LIC policy/Health insurance /taxsaving FD/PPF inke through max 1 lac ka ivestment kar sakte ho according to rules...
to ur salary becomes 4 lac - 1 lac = 3 lac
iske baad if ur paying education loan or housing lian to uska bhi tumhe thoda relif milega in income tax..lat say 30 thousand..
to total effective income 3 lac- 30 k = 2.7 lac...
now tax slab is 2 lac- 5 lac....
so taxable income is 2.7 lac - 2 lac = 70 thousand....
uspe 10% tax = 7000 annualy...thoda service trax bhi hota hai...to around 7500 man lo...
yeh ek rough estimate hai...so that u can get an idea...koi aur doubt to post karna..i will try to find out answer....