PhD/FPM 2014

@sheldon

hi puys,

had a query. anyone who has taken the gmat to apply for the FPM program pls help!



i am planning to take the GMAT in October.



Now the website mentions that we select upto 5 graduate management programs to send the score report.



Now since i am applying for the phd program, will I be provided the option of selecting the FPM program of the colleges and phd of institutes abroad ?



pls help me @sb29 @Adymos



Thanks



Sheldon.



Alright I know this is a little late but still. For IIM B and ISB you need to send a scanned copy of your official GMAT score along with the form since the form is online. If you are giving the GMAT you will specify colleges . When you fill the application for the colleges remeber to quote your GMAT ID and also that you have reported the scores. A number of universities are ok with not officially reporting the scores and instead ask you to send a scanned copy which is great cuz it saves money 😛

Guys, few days back there was faculty recruitment ad from MDI,Gurgaon,they require assistant professor in the following areas - strategic management and operation management.Qualification require for these posts- " A Phd with first class or equivalent in the appropriate branch at the preceding Master degree with a very good academic record throughout"- Now my query is if a guy having Btech does not have Masters degree but having FPM degree in the mentioned areas will be eligible for this post.


Pl suggest.....lookround

Dear aspirants - the admission season is upon you and us 😛 Be sure to have your recommendations in order and your SOPs ready hopefully proofread. Please spend time on your SOP it is a very important part of your application.🍻

At B we start our first end term exams from today so maybe off for a while but keep the questions coming we will try to answer as many as we can and with details if required.

Hey guys my educational profile is as follows:

X- 78.93%
XII- 68.93%
B.Tech- 65.43
M.Tech- CGPA- 8.19.
Can I apply for these management courses?? For that which exams should I appear? Plz guide..😁

Hi ,


I have degree in BE EEE with 69% and class 10th 73% ,class 12th 69% ..I have work experience of 3 years in IT .I am an aspirant for FPM program this year . How much should i score to get a call from any IIM's or XLRI . What are the odds as per my profile that i can be selected .

Thanks

This is the letter I wrote to Director IIM Calcutta about Fellow Program:





This is an extract from my letter to Director IIM Calcutta about their Fellow Program:


I had stood fifth in Higher Secondary examination in West Bengal in 1976 and did my graduation in Electronics and Electrical Communication engineering from IIT Kharagpur in 1981. I joined the Indian Administrative Service in 1983 and after serving for 24 years took voluntary retirement in 2007. Thereafter I worked for a nationally renowned infrastructure consulting company for more than two years as Head of Eastern region and for the last three years I am CEO of a company of the Shriram Group in Kolkata. My detailed resume is attached for your perusal.

Academics had been my passion and I am passionate about Mathematics, digital Communication, Physics and Economics. I have pursues study of these subjects on my own for the past thirty years. I wanted to have a PhD but without a post graduate degree it is difficult to do so. So I had applied for the fellow program in Public Policy Management / Regional Development this year after securing 93.47 percentile in CAT. I would also like to put on record that a PhD degree would neither benefit me financially nor not having a PhD would impact me adversely. I had applied purely out of my love of academic pursuit and nothing else.

After being shortlisted I appeared for the interview on 22nd March 2013. I was expecting a stimulating intellectual interaction on my domain knowledge and the topics I wanted to pursue research. I was disappointed when the topics in the discussion went in the following order:

1. My willingness to quit my job: Obviously at the age of 53, with family commitments, a decision to quit a one crore per annum job is neither an easy one nor a practical one. I will elaborate on this issue more later in the subsequent paragraphs.

2. My psychological ability to adjust with students half my age: Since there is no age bar for fellow program, there is every likelihood that some co-researchers may be half or even one third the age of any researcher. If the Institute has any such apprehension, then it should have a priori declared through an upper age limit criterion.

3. My possible inhibition (as perceived by the interviewers) /authority issue if the faculty is half my age: I believe in knowledge acquisition not having any barrier, but if the comparative age structure of faculty and the researcher is a compelling consideration then again an upper age bar should be fixed which is lower than the age of the youngest faculty member.

4. My ability to adapt to a steep learning curve: I thought that I have proved my intellectual ability through a valid CAT score. The modality of demonstrating one's intellectual and academic alacrity to the panel in the span of ten to fifteen minutes (the time span that my interview lasted) was beyond me. I was not also enlightened by any of the esteemed faculty members how to prove that I can learn with an equal level of alacrity of that of someone half my age. I presumed that the reason for having a valid CAT or GRE score to make one eligible to apply was to ensure that the candidate is intellectually competent. Incidentally, I had appeared for CAT in 2008 with a score of 90.5 percentile and in 2010, with a percentile of 98.92. I don't have the 2008 scorecard but my 2010 and 2012 scorecard are enclosed. Or is it that the IIM Kolkata faculty does not trust that CAT score is a proof of intellectual agility!!

5. Domain Knowledge: One single question on Infrastructure development and its importance and after my reply, no attempt to engage me intellectually on the issue. And that was the end of the interview and I was subsequently rejected.

"I taught a course at the engineering school on mathematical methods in physics, in which I tried to show how to solve problems by trial and error. It's something that people don't usually learn, so I began with some simple examples of arithmetic to illustrate the method. I was surprised that only about eight out of the eighty or so students turned in the first assignment. So I gave a strong lecture about having to actually try it, not just sit back and watch me do it.

After the lecture some students came up to me in a little delegation, and told me that I didn't understand the backgrounds that they have, that they can study without doing the problems, that they have already learned arithmetic, and that this stuff was beneath them.

So I kept going with the class, and no matter how complicated or obviously advanced the work was becoming, they were never handing a damn thing in. Of course I realized what it was: They couldn't do it!

One other thing I could never get them to do was to ask questions. Finally, a student explained it to me: "If I ask you a question during the lecture, afterwards everybody will be telling me, 'What are you wasting our time for in the class? We're trying to learn something. And you're stopping him by asking a question'."

It was a kind of one-upmanship, where nobody knows what's going on, and they'd put the other one down as if they did know. They all fake that they know, and if one student admits for a moment that something is confusing by asking a question, the others take a high-handed attitude, acting as if it's not confusing at all, telling him that he's wasting their time."

Richard Feynman

@arunmehta.1986

Hi Everyone,

I'm currently working as a Senior Research Associate in an Industry NGO in Pune since last 1 year, basically my profile is of a market analyst in wind energy.



Prior to this I did my MBA in Power Management from National Power Training Institute, Faridabad with 69% average in all semesters. Prior to that however, my academics have been below average.



B.E, Electronics and Communication, RGPV Bhopal - 66.12%



XII - 57.2 %



X - 59.4 %



Besides this I have one year experience of working at a reputed energy trading firm and two years teaching experience after engineering.



I'm interested in doing FPM in Organisational Behavior, specifically in subjects related to Leadership and/or spirituality, personal values and growth etc from one of the top IIMs or XLRI.



Kindly let me know whether there is a possibility of being considered for the course with such poor acads?



1) Its pointless to try CAT with such poor acads



2) I should try to give CAT my best shot Skip



Unless you try how will you succeed?


Hi Puys,

Congrats on creating this thread. Really solves a lot of confusion that students have over FPM/Phd.

My profile is as follows:

Xth - 87.4%

XII - 74%

B.E. (Computer Science) - 71% (With Honours) from PU Chd.

Work Ex - More than 3 years of Work ex with a leading Research and Analysis firm

I am taking CAT this year and rather than opting for an MBA, I want to go in for FPM, with teaching being the final objective.

Could you please guide me as to where should I look to apply (Will also take XAT to apply in XLRI) and how much percentile would be considered "safe" 😃

Thanks

Though being selected in couple of IIMs, I have preferred to join FPM at XLRI, Jamshedpur in June 2013 as it is the choicest destination for HR Professionals. However, at later stage i have found that the program is aligned for first 2 years (like most of IIMs) i.e more on to gaining a broad outlook on different facets of management before landing into one's destination (i.e pursuing research that you have chosen/preferred to undergo).

The mode of evaluation for first 2 years will be literally competing with PGP class and secure a decent grade which is good to learn, but an uphill task for subject specialists those who have left competitive study atmosphere's long back. Moreover, at a point of time it has been seen at XLRI that many full time FPM students (though selected but didn't prefer to join there else leaving the course in between-that i too have decide now) and drop out rates of Executive-Full time FPM stands the highest one's.

While excavating the reason behind, i have been told that the program is not having an equivalence of PhD program though the institutional authorities are striving since 10+ years to achieve the coveted one from AIU. Largely, being a private B School the faculties (one of the best available HR academic resources) are more aligned towards teaching PGPs, Executive Programs and MDPs where in they can earn a handsome money, but however the research and publication stands secondary for those elite masses.

The question arises.....is the institute stands as the preferred destination for research in HR as like its flagship program i.e PG Programs in HR?. Hence taking all views and practically observing the situation, i preferred at this point of time to quit the program and join in a IIM/IIT to fructify my dream. Hence, do speak to students and preferably pay a visit to the institute before finally zeroing in on one....As after all i believe this blog is for aspirants who believe in spending precious half a decade of their life going to have a serious research in their chosen area and getting awarded with PhD at the end.

Hi puys Can any body evaluate my profile for FPM in India and Abroad. !0th 89%, 12th 92%, Engg 62% moor than 3 years of exp in a very good PSU. Thanks in Advance Puys.

CAn anybody trow some light on PHD abroad and oppurtunities for it

Hi guys,


what is the last date for applying to IIM B? closing date is not mentioned in the notification

thanks!
sheldon.

@varun.jindal Regarding final admission to FPM program at XLRI for the academic year commenced on June 2013 only 2 students have joined (Varun Elimbillesray and Me) and i have discontinued the program by now. Varun E. a degree engineer and a non-MBA with corporate experience may most likely trying out his luck with IITs or IIMs this time and hence, till he secures his admission he will continue over there. As far as I know in XLRI there are 9 Full time FPM students in total seen in campus (stats says from 2002-12: 3 of them only been awarded and rest left the course work in between which stands a whooping 31 if i am precise to be). One more aspect to see that there are a lot of drop outs in Executive Fellow Program too over there.





FPM/PhD fraternity may go through the qualification requirements for Prof. position in recently advertised notification in above stated link. The position of Asst. Prof. requires the minimum requirement as follows:

i. Consistently good academic record with at least 55%

marks (or an equivalent grade in a point scale wherever

grading system is followed) in Master's Degree in Business

Management / Administration / in a relevant management

related discipline or first class in two years full time PGDM

declared equivalent by AIU / recognized by the AICTE /

UGC;

OR

First Class graduate and professionally qualified Charted

Accountant / Cost and works Accountant / Company

Secretary of the concerned statutory body.

ii. Ph.D. or Fellow of Indian Institute of Management or of

an institute recognized by AICTE and declared equivalent by

the AIU.

iii. A minimum of eight years' experience of teaching /

industry / research / professional at managerial level

excluding the period spent for obtaining the research degree.


Hello, I am new to this forum & aspire to do FPM/Phd in HR. I want to know the shortlisting criteria for the interview of IIMs or any other premier institutes if any1 is UGC NET Jrf qualified. Can some1 tell me about this.

Hello !!!. I have few questions regarding FPM in IIMs and Abroad.

1. What is the drop out rate in course and why people leave the course
2. I heard that some of the FPM people are sent back because of scoring less in course academics. is the course is that much hard to study.
3. Few good foreign universities for doing phd/fpm and their wbsites...
Many thanks in advance.

Hi Pguys.....I want to get enrolled in FPM of IIM C in Finance Area. Can someone please tell me that what sort of Questions are being asked in RAT?

hello guys.. I want to take admission in doctoral program thru UGC NET JRF. Plz any body suggest me no. institute specially IITs who take admission thru JRF..