Software Testing, Quality Assurance, QA - Queries & Discussions

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Hi Rohit, despite the craze and ego assosiated with dev, its nice to see people aspiring to be testers. A good tester needs to be better than the dev to break his/her code. We very rarely see companies that put in a lot of effort into the quality of products. As a result, the challenges in a testing role are high in very few companies.

There some good testing schools around - atleast in NCR. If you want exact details, PM me and I can find out and let you know.

Regarding the salaries. They are as much as ppl in s/w get. In companies that have different people that do dev and testing, testers get paid slightly less than dev.

Growth is no different for a tester from a dev - atleast from what I know.

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hey as in devloping field there are many streams in testing field too. if u choose the rare and growing stream like SAP testing or Mobile and game testing you get a good salary as well as there will be speedier growth.

hey as in devloping field there are many streams in testing field too. if u choose the rare and growing stream like SAP testing or Mobile and game testing you get a good salary as well as there will be speedier growth

There are some good testing schools in NCR

Hello everyone,
i am into development for 3.5+ yr exp(C++, ASP.NET, WPF , Core java).
Now planning to shift to testing,since my experience was only on GUI, front end designing and unit testing.
Before that i have few questions in my mind.
1) Unable to decide which will be better mannual or automation testing?
2) Do i have to train myself through any testing institute or reading articles on net will help it? IF institute den which one to get trained in Delhi(residing in south delhi) , as NOIDA is too far from my place.And which have weekend classes(weekdays i have office).
3) Is ISTQB certification important for me as i already have development exp and i used to do white box and unit testing on my projects?
4) If i face any interview, will my development experience be counted or will i be taken as a fresher for testing?
Thanks guys.

Hello guys
I am a Computer Science engineer 2010 pass out & a CAT aspirant
want a job so is testing Job would be better for me as I want to do MBA after 2-3 years form india or abroad
I want to pursue MBA in HR.
plaese suggest SEED institute(Pune) is good enough to do a Testing course & bring a job.

Well this thread seems to be very inactive :lookround: Hence i feel to activate it again.Today i am going to post most popular myths about the software testing, hope it will help to clear doubts of many.

Myth 1: It is a boring job
Every profession has some level of boring stuff and I admit that software testing is no exception. An example of what is boring in software testing is executing test cases. But the good news is people have devised methodologies, approaches and techniques to get away from executing test cases and those ideas are gaining huge popularity. Some of the prominent ones are Rapid Software Testing and Exploratory Testing.

Myth 2: For engineering grads, only
Interestingly, one of the finest testers Jon Bach (James Bach's brother) has a journalism degree! In India, organisations such as Infosys, Wipro, CTS and TCS, recruit BSc, BCom, and other graduates to test software. Many product companies have also provided opportunities for people in support to move to testing since being in support is a wonderful way to know how the customer thinks. I think it is a field open to the finest thinkers. :w00t:

Myth 3: I can be a great tester without knowing programming
Though knowledge of programming is not a mandatory skill, in the long run one realises it does help. Moreover, it is also an easily learnable skill. Some people need 100 hours and others need 200. There are many jobs that do not demand testers to know programming but you could be a better tester if you knew how to write and read code. I have personally found lots of problems in the software I was testing because I read the code and understood the problem in it.

Myth 4: Software tester salaries not as good as developers'
Before 2004, software testers were paid less as compared to developers, but from 2005 onwards most parts of the industry started treating developers and testers on par. Today in 2009, I know testers who are paid more salary than developers. But by saying that I do mean that testing has overtaken development in terms of money.

The skilled and the vocal shall always be paid a lot in this industry. Be it a tester, or a developer or a network administrator or a support executive. If you want to be an average Joe, no problem, you will still be paid on par with all other average Joes of the industry.


Myth 5: Anyone can be a tester
The question I have to people who say that is:

  1. Anyone can play cricket but the question is; who plays well?
  2. Anyone can write books but the question is; who writes well?
  3. Anyone can test but the question is; who tests well?

Myth 6: Software testing does not have career growth
Visit the Naukri or Monster website and search for openings related to software testing. You will discover roles and designations plus the proposed salary packages of that order.

In addition to these, you may want to choose to be an independent consultant or a freelance consultant. The money you earn as a freelance consultant depends on your reputation and credibility. Bigger the reputation, up goes the moolah! SOURCE:Rediff.com

Well i believe it is enough for today.
I will be posting more on software testing as a career soon.

Cheers!!
is it really a clerical job????
do testers also get to have on-site(and earn those $$$$)?

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what u guys think ???? I am really confused now though it has many positive sides like faster growth is it really that monotonous???what should i there coz i guess once i am in there i am in there then cant change tracks if i feel its boring and monotonous after 1-2 yrs. Plz help i am really in a fix.

its all in an individual's attitude ........though people say its a clerical job..........it requires lot of creativity and spontaneity for all mba wannabes who wanna work for 2 years and then go for their mba its the best option as along testing skills what matters is domain knowledge especially bfsan aspiring mba guy can gain effective knowledge in the particular domain ........secondly though developers are good in their own way ....when it comes to domain knowledge testers have an edge over developers .........so both fields are good in their own way and it would be wrong to compare both of them......at the end of the day both of them work only for the organization as a whole

heyyyyy pls help me.....guysss im in big trouble i hve complted btech frm computer sc frm UPTU scored 66% overall
and abut my academics
10th-78.4%
12th-81%

both frm CBSE
i dnt knw much abut programming....i heard abut testing field...pl guide me frm where shuld i get start?????????
pla help

Hi . I am also working as tester in an IT Company. Trust me think twice before getting into testing field from my personal exp , there is no SCope in especailly manual testing.

destinychildisk Says
Hi . I am also working as tester in an indian IT giant. Trust me think twice before getting into testing field from my personal exp , there is no SCope in especailly manual testing.


Please refrain yourself from misleading people if you have not much idea about the field

This is no place to vent out your frustration.

From what i have observed i can say that if you have passion for testing there is no limitation in what you can achieve. There are plenty of opportunities in software testing to explore. Regarding manual testing, it is the basic building block of your knowledge and career in testing.

And if you have any doubt try looking the career opportunities in major IT companies and it will be clear to you that what is the scope of testing.

Remember: Testing requires skills,thinking beyond the limit programmers can think, ability to see beyond obvious, rapid learning, mental and visual sequencing ability, building up scenarios that may happen with the product and passion for investigating into details. In a nutshell Testing is applied epistemology


PS: I believe the common opinion(wrong perception) about testing is due to the people who are forced into testing and who don't give value to their profession. NO offence to anyone

Hi puys,
Thank god such thread exists !!.
I have been placed in Microsoft (MGSI) as an associate consultant, but mostly i will be doing testing job (Manual+Automatic)
On other side i have an offer from a small but a reputed firm specializing in Pricing softwares, the Job is of developer
The salary offered by Microsoft is 3 times the salary offered by small firm.
And iam dead sure to do an MBA, thats the reason iam inclined towards Microsoft as its a Huge name and it may help me in my MBA
Please advice me should i join Microsoft and are my assumptions correct as in Huge name helps in MBA placements.

Thanks and Regards,
Mahesh

Hey Buddy. I am neither venting frusturation nor am i trying to mislead anyone. That was purely my opinion based on whatever i have experiencd and learnt from my colleagues. Also i feel one should not be limited to manual testing only , and knowing automation testing would give better oppurtunities then purely knowing manaul testing.

destinychildisk Says
Hey Buddy. I am neither venting frusturation nor am i trying to mislead anyone. That was purely my opinion based on whatever i have experiencd and learnt from my colleagues. Also i feel one should not be limited to manual testing only , and knowing automation testing would give better oppurtunities then purely knowing manaul testing.



I really value your attempt to answer the query of the guy but i believe while giving advice/suggestions one should think from a third persons perspective and the opinion should be unbiased regardless of the personal status.

I was just trying to burst the myths no offence meant to anyone :biggrin:
Hi puys,
Thank god such thread exists !!.
I have been placed in Microsoft (MGSI) as an associate consultant, but mostly i will be doing testing job (Manual+Automatic)
On other side i have an offer from a small but a reputed firm specializing in Pricing softwares, the Job is of developer
The salary offered by Microsoft is 3 times the salary offered by small firm.
And iam dead sure to do an MBA, thats the reason iam inclined towards Microsoft as its a Huge name and it may help me in my MBA
Please advice me should i join Microsoft and are my assumptions correct as in Huge name helps in MBA placements.

Thanks and Regards,
Mahesh



It is very simple to decide, join Microsoft without giving any second thought Everything you mentioned gives more weightage to Microsoft and testing is not that bad 😉
Responsibilities you held at your job plays a more important role but Microsoft brand will indeed help you a lot.
Please refrain yourself from misleading people if you have not much idea about the field

This is no place to vent out your frustration.

From what i have observed i can say that if you have passion for testing there is no limitation in what you can achieve. There are plenty of opportunities in software testing to explore. Regarding manual testing, it is the basic building block of your knowledge and career in testing.

And if you have any doubt try looking the career opportunities in major IT companies and it will be clear to you that what is the scope of testing.

Remember: Testing requires skills,thinking beyond the limit programmers can think, ability to see beyond obvious, rapid learning, mental and visual sequencing ability, building up scenarios that may happen with the product and passion for investigating into details. In a nutshell Testing is applied epistemology


PS: I believe the common opinion(wrong perception) about testing is due to the people who are forced into testing and who don't give value to their profession. NO offence to anyone








hiiiiiiiiiiiiii ya sir see ppl here r misguiding me....pls let me knw i wana do mbabt write now in pron abut myths of testing....pls let me knw how shuld i getting started wd testing...??
also pls tell me would testing be counted as an experience for mba????

i heard abut testing institutes...??wat they"ll provide??a simple damn certificate or wd placemnt?????pls rply
hiiiiiiiiiiiiii ya sir see ppl here r misguiding me....pls let me knw i wana do mbabt write now in pron abut myths of testing....pls let me knw how shuld i getting started wd testing...??
also pls tell me would testing be counted as an experience for mba????

i heard abut testing institutes...??wat they"ll provide??a simple damn certificate or wd placemnt?????pls rply


What makes you think that testing would not be counted as an experience for MBA :banghead:. It is altogether a different discipline in the software lifecycle.

I am shocked to see that much of ignorance rather unawareness about testing :shocked:
If you want to make your career in testing then i would like to suggest you to join a decent institute for testing course, it will give you a fair idea about what testing is and what will be your career path. Most of the instis have their curriculum designed around the testing certification (ISTQB). Placement will again depend on the kind of insti. you choose.

Most of the companies around Noida hire testers who have pursued some course in testing.So a course in testing will certainly help you to kickstart your career in testing but join a insti. which has a good reputation in the market.

Moreover i personally believe that even after completing a course successfuly u do not become a good tester. Finding bugs and exploring them from every nook and corner of the application is not taught in any insti. of India:splat:(as far as i know).For that you should read a lot of good books in testing especially written by James Bach , Cem Kaner etc. Try reading articles on testing over the net and read blogs of the famous testers.

Explore as much as you can over the net about testing techniques and if you can manage try to learn as many testing tools as you can because in the long run only automation testers survive. Rest assured your future is safe in testing if you can develop an affinity towards testing.
What makes you think that testing would not be counted as an experience for MBA :banghead:. It is altogether a different discipline in the software lifecycle.

I am shocked to see that much of ignorance rather unawareness about testing :shocked:
If you want to make your career in testing then i would like to suggest you to join a decent institute for testing course, it will give you a fair idea about what testing is and what will be your career path. Most of the instis have their curriculum designed around the testing certification (ISTQB). Placement will again depend on the kind of insti. you choose.

Most of the companies around Noida hire testers who have pursued some course in testing.So a course in testing will certainly help you to kickstart your career in testing but join a insti. which has a good reputation in the market.

Moreover i personally believe that even after completing a course successfuly u do not become a good tester. Finding bugs and exploring them from every nook and corner of the application is not taught in any insti. of India:splat:(as far as i know).For that you should read a lot of good books in testing especially written by James Bach , Cem Kaner etc. Try reading articles on testing over the net and read blogs of the famous testers.

Explore as much as you can over the net about testing techniques and if you can manage try to learn as many testing tools as you can because in the long run only automation testers survive. Rest assured your future is safe in testing if you can develop an affinity towards testing.

Thankzz a lot sir...but i dont knw about the good institutes in NCR
i heard about DUCAT,PURE TESTERS,CRESTECH they"ll also gear up for ISTQB bt i dnt knw frm which best institues i should go for???

also im planning to go for mba after gaining ex pls also keep this in mind and pls rply fair answer???!!!

wats the market value of ISTQB???? i have 2.5 yrs testing experience at Infosys.. is it helpful for me??

vinee03 Says
wats the market value of ISTQB???? i have 2.5 yrs testing experience at Infosys.. is it helpful for me??


Well its a very controversial topic among testers :biggrin:
Although in my opinion ISTQB doesn't add any value to ones testing skills still an ISTQB certification is considered very reputed in the market and in the companies like TCS, Infy, Wipro it is very well considered and the persons with certifications always get a upper hand

For more info on certifications kindly visit the Indian Testing Board's site here