[2013-2015] SCIT Aspirants Queries and Discussions

@shanmukh31 said:
what would be the cut off out of 100(ge + pi + snap score + profile) to get selected in the merit list, seniors please reply!!!
Hi,
There is no cutoff as such..The top candidates will be selected in the merit list..All the best..!!

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Srikanth Murali
Symbiosis Centre for Information Technology, Pune
SCIT Class Of '14 | Admissions Team | Helpline Numbers: +919960895085 | +918554070350 | +918554070325


Hello seniors,
I was surfing through last year's admission thread and found this. (SCIT EXPOSED)
Would you please clarify facts about this?
Wat about Freshers like us and those who are not from IT Background?

http://www.pagalguy.com/forums/xat-snap-iift-and-others/2012-2014-scit-aspirants-t-71015/p-2885187/r-3371000


@Jalpesh_Shah said:
Hello seniors,I was surfing through last year's admission thread and found this. (SCIT EXPOSED)Would you please clarify facts about this?Wat about Freshers like us and those who are not from IT Background?http://www.pagalguy.com/forums/xat-snap-iift-and-others/2012-2014-scit-aspirants-t-71015/p-2885187/r-3371000
What was in that thread they deleted it from there ?????

@Jalpesh_Shah said:
Hello seniors,I was surfing through last year's admission thread and found this. (SCIT EXPOSED)Would you please clarify facts about this?Wat about Freshers like us and those who are not from IT Background?http://www.pagalguy.com/forums/xat-snap-iift-and-others/2012-2014-scit-aspirants-t-71015/p-2885187/r-3371000
@bunswap said:
What was in that thread they deleted it from there ?????

What is this?
I was waiting for solution and you are deleting the post?
Every one should be allowed to see that.


@all aspirants
no prob. I still have that link. (sorry I dont have other things written in that POST)
TITLED :- SCIT EXPOSED
http://tinypaste.com/39d51285
See this and ask to seniors what other info were in that post and why did they deleted that post?


@Seniors
Now I want answers of two questions.
1st :- Tell me in detail about the post you deleted
2nd :- Why did u deleted that post? Why don't you let other people know about that?
Is this the way to hide the identity? Its all about our future.
@Jalpesh_Shah said:
What is this?I was waiting for solution and you are deleting the post?Every one should be allowed to see that.@allno prob. I still have that link.http://tinypaste.com/39d51285See this and ask to seniors what other info were in that post and why did they deleted that post?@SeniorsNow I want answers of two questions.1st :- Tell me in detail about the post you deleted 2nd :- Why did u deleted that post? Why don't you let other people know about that? Is this the way to hide the identity? Its all about our future.



I am scared and worried now i dont have 60% agg mumbai uni 😞 the ghost of past will haunt me even after masters than its scary and i don't know how true is the report but by deleting it the are just sending a wrong signal
@bunswap said:
I am scared and worried now i dont have 60% agg mumbai uni the ghost of past will haunt me even after masters than its scary and i don't know how true is the report but by deleting it the are just sending a wrong signal

Thats what I am asking them?
Way did they deleted that post? and why dont they want to reveal it?
They were supposed to provide the solution of this doubt instead of deleting the psot.
@Jalpesh_Shah said:
Thats what I am asking them?Way did they deleted that post? and why dont they want to reveal it?
I had interview in another symbi institute ,i asked same question to seniors they were frank and told the exact placements of the current batch hope seniors here also be doing the same pls i request u guys
@bunswap said:
I had interview in another symbi institute ,i asked same question to seniors they were frank and told the exact placements of the current batch hope seniors here also be doing the same pls i request u guys
then why these guys didn't ?
Its all about our future.
Now I must say, every one, be aware before taking admission here.

@seniors
Still waiting in hope of any assertive reply.

I ALSO READ IT,,,IS THIS TRUE,,SENIORS>>>>
1. what is the reality of placements.?


BE Logical,Be Reasonable!All your Answers Lies within,just change the frame of reference! I was shortlisted in the first meritlist itself,but i withdrawn my admission offer becoz of 2 "major" reasons,soon you will get to know whay i quoted the word "major" 1> i am a fresher 2>my academics is NOT consistent with 60% aggregate throughout. Now there are some strong facts that i would like to share which i happen to learn in the past few months from some eminent personalities who are working as Associate Consultants at Infosys some are Business Analysist at Cognizant som from Wipro and many more.BUT before i begin ,i would clearly like to quote that this explanation is purely based on my deduction from different sources it has Nothing to do with the Institute as an individual,as the content is a general explanation to the people who are passing through the diallama of situation of which i was passing ones,hence i having the right to speech and people on the other hand having the right to "true" Information,i am sharing my view. The placement stats what is put fewdays back could have already been deducted from the Linkedin community,where you could consult actual seniors for suggestions and scnario of IT industry rather than those who are simply marketing the institute by giving diplomatic answers,though i believe its NOT there fault but unfortunately they are told to do so but inspite of this fact i waited for the figures to be out so that the data itself could reveal the truth. Actually,NO Matter How far you study hard at the Institute,when it comes to Placement,the Companies are very strict. I would Just like to take an example of 4 Dream comapnies of everyone here,that is Infosys,Accenture,Wipro & TCS,when they visit to the campus they are damm strict about the academics and CGPA if it is 60%,than even 59.99 is strictly NOT allowed,if you have some source you can confirm the same.to be very frank i wanted to go in the top four,so that atleast after mba i could secure my career,but whn i came to know certain reality/analysis,the seen changed drastically secondly,the increment in the NON-eligible students from 6 to 36 and in total intake(its 171,which should have been 180,what ever may be the reson and what ever may be the category,but i think its for the first time the so called premier IT B school got seats falling vacant) ,this trend is NOT only becoz of students there ,but one must also look at the other face of the coin,the corporates are getting strict day by day,and 2 years down the line who knows corporate makes the eligibility criteria as 65% throughout and CGPA 3 minimum, Now it is obvious that the toppers even in that case will NOT suffer,but those people with low academics who took the admission thinking that they will make it in the institute will be the most severely hit. in that case the institute will simply put the update as : 100 elligible(with CGPA 3 minimum),99 placed,now who cares the leftover 80,becoz everybody thinks that he/she is the best and hence the marketing will go on and on ,and in the coming year if Recession is NOT directly going to hit MBA IT that this is how the degrading stats will be hit INDIRECTLy.Just give a thought why the prestigious IIMs give around 40% weight-age(IIM B gives 80% weightage though) for academics,does they dont have the best brains in the country?,but still they follow that rule becoz now the academics barrior has been a major criteria from the corporates sides,and NOT just the Institute,no diplomatic answer can ever CONFUTE this fact now! Thirdly,in this tug war if someone suffers the most than it the freshers and than the those who are from the NON-IT baground and that could be seen from the placemnt stats as well,who knows outof 180 those 36 are mostly among the freshers and NON-IT students admitted to the students,and i m sure this ratio will increase in the subsequent year,the major reason i can give or you yourself can see is the preference of SCIT from this year for selecting more Work-ex " candidates over freshers in the merit list,as they have also analyzed that the overall average package could be increased if most of them will be work-ek guys and NOT just freshers,so business of the institute demands that step to be incorporated in the merit selection process! Fourthly,i would have even took the admission by taking the risk of 31,000 but just go deep with the analysis the loss is NOT of what it appears the loss is of 2 years and around 8 LAKHS which an individual will invest by arranging loans and various other sources,the fear here is i know that m a fresher and with low acads,what if i came to be one NON eligible one,my next 10 years will go just in paying the loan only and along with the me being a big liability to the parents and society. NOw it was NOT only me who knew that this scene is pevaling there in the good/top IT companies,the effect was clearly reflected this year: 1>the cutoff of the institute went so low that the institute itself was felling uncomfortable to disclose it,though from some sources on this forum it was deduced to be around 35 a drop of 28 from last year(i agree that the paper was tough,but 35 was NOT expected on any ground),i m NOT sure if it went even less than that,but it was NOT in any case higher than this.so clearly if a student with 35 or 40 snap score will enter the institute it is sure that the placement figure will suffer and keep on dipping year after year,a common deduction! 2>NOw the question arises,why did the institute go so low as 35?,the answer is becoz they were bound give call to around 1400 students which could NOT have been adjustable if the cutoff would had been 50 to 60.this clearly indicates the number and quality of application the institute has received(it is estimated that this year the institute did not received more that around 1600 application). 3>NOT declaring the first waiting list and giving them direct offers,creates 2 suspects a)Allowing Backdoor entry,even if we consider this fact wrong its fine,but what about the second one; b)The institute doesNOT want to show that the waitlist clearence was very long,becoz if suppose 300 waitlisted students would had cleared by last year's formulae,but this year than after hiding 100 the institute will show that only upto 200 was given the final call,though it is 300 in actual but the first 100 was hide by the institute to save its business repo in the corporates!remember:the more longer the merit list will be, the more placemnts stats deteroriated you will find in the subsequent year,hence it was bound to play the hide and seek game. c)why was it that the first meritlist student(which was full with work-ek candidates) was given 20 days to pay the fee with penalty of 31 k,and now it is only 10 days being given to the rest of the candidates,to my knowledge its simply becoz they then wanted those to retain at the institute (as majority of them were with good SNAP score,good work -ex,good academics and hence could bring good placemnts),now the leftovers is a mix or the NOT so preferred ones and hence keeping them in the waitlist is just another way of saying that "TAKE ADMISSION AT YOUR OWN RISK,ACCORDING TO US,WE WERE RESPONSIBLE ONLY FOR THE FIRST MERIT" and its being clearly reflected in their placements stats ,its now all about time that students takes to pay the fee is what matters not whether 200 waitlist rank gets in or 555,becz the institute is even ready to offer a seat to the 555th candidate too,and this data itself is shocking that for the first time 555 are kept in waitlist,allocating a RANK was just a trick played by the Institute. thats all i learnt and to see this all you have to believe in the fact that there are two kinds of people "one who is inside the business,like ryt now we are being put into by the management of the Institute,and then there are those inside whom the business itself lies,be in the later kind you will obsrve all this phenomenon. finally,this post is NOT an offend , as it is purely a obsrvation to which anybody is free to observe and share,but it could be an eye-opener to some who believes in "A reasonable IMpossibility is always better than a Convincing Possibility" [well said by N.R.Narayan Murthy,Chief Mentor Infosys]

I ALSO READ IT,,,IS THIS TRUE,,SENIORS>>>>
1. what is the reality of placements.?


BE Logical,Be Reasonable!All your Answers Lies within,just change the frame of reference! I was shortlisted in the first meritlist itself,but i withdrawn my admission offer becoz of 2 "major" reasons,soon you will get to know whay i quoted the word "major" 1> i am a fresher 2>my academics is NOT consistent with 60% aggregate throughout. Now there are some strong facts that i would like to share which i happen to learn in the past few months from some eminent personalities who are working as Associate Consultants at Infosys some are Business Analysist at Cognizant som from Wipro and many more.BUT before i begin ,i would clearly like to quote that this explanation is purely based on my deduction from different sources it has Nothing to do with the Institute as an individual,as the content is a general explanation to the people who are passing through the diallama of situation of which i was passing ones,hence i having the right to speech and people on the other hand having the right to "true" Information,i am sharing my view. The placement stats what is put fewdays back could have already been deducted from the Linkedin community,where you could consult actual seniors for suggestions and scnario of IT industry rather than those who are simply marketing the institute by giving diplomatic answers,though i believe its NOT there fault but unfortunately they are told to do so but inspite of this fact i waited for the figures to be out so that the data itself could reveal the truth. Actually,NO Matter How far you study hard at the Institute,when it comes to Placement,the Companies are very strict. I would Just like to take an example of 4 Dream comapnies of everyone here,that is Infosys,Accenture,Wipro & TCS,when they visit to the campus they are damm strict about the academics and CGPA if it is 60%,than even 59.99 is strictly NOT allowed,if you have some source you can confirm the same.to be very frank i wanted to go in the top four,so that atleast after mba i could secure my career,but whn i came to know certain reality/analysis,the seen changed drastically secondly,the increment in the NON-eligible students from 6 to 36 and in total intake(its 171,which should have been 180,what ever may be the reson and what ever may be the category,but i think its for the first time the so called premier IT B school got seats falling vacant) ,this trend is NOT only becoz of students there ,but one must also look at the other face of the coin,the corporates are getting strict day by day,and 2 years down the line who knows corporate makes the eligibility criteria as 65% throughout and CGPA 3 minimum, Now it is obvious that the toppers even in that case will NOT suffer,but those people with low academics who took the admission thinking that they will make it in the institute will be the most severely hit. in that case the institute will simply put the update as : 100 elligible(with CGPA 3 minimum),99 placed,now who cares the leftover 80,becoz everybody thinks that he/she is the best and hence the marketing will go on and on ,and in the coming year if Recession is NOT directly going to hit MBA IT that this is how the degrading stats will be hit INDIRECTLy.Just give a thought why the prestigious IIMs give around 40% weight-age(IIM B gives 80% weightage though) for academics,does they dont have the best brains in the country?,but still they follow that rule becoz now the academics barrior has been a major criteria from the corporates sides,and NOT just the Institute,no diplomatic answer can ever CONFUTE this fact now! Thirdly,in this tug war if someone suffers the most than it the freshers and than the those who are from the NON-IT baground and that could be seen from the placemnt stats as well,who knows outof 180 those 36 are mostly among the freshers and NON-IT students admitted to the students,and i m sure this ratio will increase in the subsequent year,the major reason i can give or you yourself can see is the preference of SCIT from this year for selecting more Work-ex " candidates over freshers in the merit list,as they have also analyzed that the overall average package could be increased if most of them will be work-ek guys and NOT just freshers,so business of the institute demands that step to be incorporated in the merit selection process! Fourthly,i would have even took the admission by taking the risk of 31,000 but just go deep with the analysis the loss is NOT of what it appears the loss is of 2 years and around 8 LAKHS which an individual will invest by arranging loans and various other sources,the fear here is i know that m a fresher and with low acads,what if i came to be one NON eligible one,my next 10 years will go just in paying the loan only and along with the me being a big liability to the parents and society. NOw it was NOT only me who knew that this scene is pevaling there in the good/top IT companies,the effect was clearly reflected this year: 1>the cutoff of the institute went so low that the institute itself was felling uncomfortable to disclose it,though from some sources on this forum it was deduced to be around 35 a drop of 28 from last year(i agree that the paper was tough,but 35 was NOT expected on any ground),i m NOT sure if it went even less than that,but it was NOT in any case higher than this.so clearly if a student with 35 or 40 snap score will enter the institute it is sure that the placement figure will suffer and keep on dipping year after year,a common deduction! 2>NOw the question arises,why did the institute go so low as 35?,the answer is becoz they were bound give call to around 1400 students which could NOT have been adjustable if the cutoff would had been 50 to 60.this clearly indicates the number and quality of application the institute has received(it is estimated that this year the institute did not received more that around 1600 application). 3>NOT declaring the first waiting list and giving them direct offers,creates 2 suspects a)Allowing Backdoor entry,even if we consider this fact wrong its fine,but what about the second one; b)The institute doesNOT want to show that the waitlist clearence was very long,becoz if suppose 300 waitlisted students would had cleared by last year's formulae,but this year than after hiding 100 the institute will show that only upto 200 was given the final call,though it is 300 in actual but the first 100 was hide by the institute to save its business repo in the corporates!remember:the more longer the merit list will be, the more placemnts stats deteroriated you will find in the subsequent year,hence it was bound to play the hide and seek game. c)why was it that the first meritlist student(which was full with work-ek candidates) was given 20 days to pay the fee with penalty of 31 k,and now it is only 10 days being given to the rest of the candidates,to my knowledge its simply becoz they then wanted those to retain at the institute (as majority of them were with good SNAP score,good work -ex,good academics and hence could bring good placemnts),now the leftovers is a mix or the NOT so preferred ones and hence keeping them in the waitlist is just another way of saying that "TAKE ADMISSION AT YOUR OWN RISK,ACCORDING TO US,WE WERE RESPONSIBLE ONLY FOR THE FIRST MERIT" and its being clearly reflected in their placements stats ,its now all about time that students takes to pay the fee is what matters not whether 200 waitlist rank gets in or 555,becz the institute is even ready to offer a seat to the 555th candidate too,and this data itself is shocking that for the first time 555 are kept in waitlist,allocating a RANK was just a trick played by the Institute. thats all i learnt and to see this all you have to believe in the fact that there are two kinds of people "one who is inside the business,like ryt now we are being put into by the management of the Institute,and then there are those inside whom the business itself lies,be in the later kind you will obsrve all this phenomenon. finally,this post is NOT an offend , as it is purely a obsrvation to which anybody is free to observe and share,but it could be an eye-opener to some who believes in "A reasonable IMpossibility is always better than a Convincing Possibility" [well said by N.R.Narayan Murthy,Chief Mentor Infosys]

Dear Aspirants. Yes, I am one of you and have read the post. The points covered are no great secrets other than systematically putting in across the facts, which are well conceived and organized by the writer.

One thing is sure, that the MBA Institutes are not the job churning machines for all tom **** and harry. They support you and enhance the basic qualities, fine tune them to the needs of market. If you are a dumb, spending money cannot take you to great heights. all businesses have their pros and cons. Their business is never different and they are in a business, like you are looking forward to them to turn you into Executive.

It is better to be aware of the scenario. We too want to use their Thappa and get good job in the market even if we do not have good acads. GOOD ACADS, combined with their grooming enhances your chance of securing better job. This is the prospective with which we apply, strive and get admitted. ROI is every individuals concept and shall vary with each one.

Finally, one thing is sure, u need to be good and than only you can be converted to better or best and not the rest.

Decisions are our and not of the institutes. It was a nice topic and can be a life changer for many....................

Keep discussing and we will form an opinion.

Regards

I also GOt this (Counter attack to my lsat post )...Director Msg regarding This.

Dear SCIT MBA(ITBM) aspirants ( Batch 2012-2014)
After we updated our placement statistics,there is a lot of discussion going on in the forums, hence I thought of writing about this in my blog! It is a fact that at SCIT we have a total of 180 seats are available and of these the 15% of the seats are reserved for SC, 7.5% is for ST and 3% is reserved for the differently abled, which leaves just 134 seats for the open category students, who come and join SCIT in just through merit. It is also a challenging task to fill seats which are kept reserved and hence the total number of 180 might not be the total final number, and for the current passing out batch the total number is just 171! When private companies visit our campus for placements, they do not have the reservation policy in place, and go JUST ON MERIT.
Although SCIT puts a lot of efforts in placing each and every student, If I make tall claims that “All those who join will be certainly placed for sure”, just think… will it be humanly possibly to make such statements, when we follow the rules laid by the government on “Whom to admit” !
We fix a eligibility criteria, this time it was minimum 2.45 CGPA. Hence all those who got more that 2.45 CGPA though the rigorous teaching learning process became eligible for placements. When corporate houses visit SCIT for placements, they have their own yard sticks and rules when it comes to recruiting students. Some ask for a minimum CGPA, some ask for specific domain skills, and some others open it to all students! This entirely depends on the company visiting the campus!
So those who are Academically and Practically better than the rest in the group , get picked up first and the rest wait for their turn. The data shown at http://www.scit.edu/placements_n_internships_campus_recruitment_programme.asp is as on 17th March 2012. The final statistics with changes if any will be posted by the end of April 2012. Hence I am really amused when I see many going “gaga” about SCIT placement statistics on public forums and social media.
Cheers and see you soon on campus!
Dr Raman
Director- SCIT

@IChawla
Sooo be cool guyss..

Seniors,,,,please tell us what is the procedure of generating final merit list....
How much weight-age is there for all the process...???

I got 81.5% in Snap.
12th.84
10th.83
btech(CS)-66
GD1-just ok(spoken twice)
GD2-OK (answered director sir question.(3 times got opp))
PI(SUB)-OK (more than 50% question answered)
PI(HR)-GOOD
WAT-Not know

What are my chances.Senior??

@shanmukh31 : How many are you expecting out of 100..??

@IChawla : As you have got 81.5% in snap your chances are automatically increased.. Hope for best.. i think u will get a call..
@yash5491 well my both gd's and HR interview went bad ,I won't be in the merit list that's for sure
@shanmukh31 : Same here.. Mine was also not good.. my technical also went bad.. god knows from where dey were asking questions... 😞 :-(
@yash5491 how did yours go????????