guys whts the status of this confusion?any senior can clarify?
tdy obc refused loan saying thy have orders for the same due to high court order again icfai univ barring admissions
guys whts the status of this confusion?any senior can clarify?
tdy obc refused loan saying thy have orders for the same due to high court order again icfai univ barring admissions
Take it up with the folks @ IBS if you are serious about joining...I mean the part about the loan....I am sure they have enough tie-ups with a lotta banks....As for the degree, when was it a degree ?? 😉
Cheers
hi frndz,
i am an ex-student of icfai n would like 2 say that its not worth to join ICFAI national college.
hi frndz,
i am an ex-student of icfai n would like 2 say that its not worth to join ICFAI national college.
Hi folks,
This thread debate is turning ugly, its almost 2 in the morning, and I'm at my humorous best. I'll share some of my experiences I had at ICFAI- Gurgaon to lighten you folks up. Some jokes first-
'Dear Dean, will you have peacock for breakfast, or shall we put it off for lunch? My dear, that's just outrageous! How dare you propose such a presumptuous offer! Sorry Sir, I did not mean to offend your sensibilities, I just wanted to offer you something, er, er, exotic you kinda know. What, Mr. X do you think of yourself, is this an MBA institute or a zoo?'
That, exactly, my dear friends, alas is exactly how I feel about ICFAI-Gurgaon. You see, the campus is located just off the Delhi-Haryana border at Dundahera. It originally belongs to IDPL, a central Govt. pharma concern, relating back to the '50's, when this area was typically a jungle, it somewhat continues even today to be so. The campus turns lush green during monsoons, a bit too much I'd say, with tall grass. ICFAI has control only over the South-Western part, the vast remainder area stills wrests under IDPL control.. Anyway, some part of residential quarters of the ex-IDPL staff is now officially IBS hostel area. The buildings are old, not repaired, and wet, mind you, not just damp during rains. Not safe during earthquakes, I'd say, I hope they are still standing after that temblor of very recent memory.
It was hot in summers, with extreme voltage fluctuations and blackouts (Those electricity folks haven't been able to sort out this problem, I read it in the papers.) I had taken my own inverter, cost me 5000 bucks.The campus is in the old neglected part of Gurgaon, I'd say rustic ambience, ha, ha. Very different from the Paris of India-The new Gurgaon across the road, with DLF and the likes. Transport, well the old primordial autos, very unreliable, rickety, unless you have own convenience. Students could stay offcampus too as PG, your choice.
All was well till the monsoons set in. Well, I had visited campus before admission, senior students should have enlightened me more about this stay. Anyway, first few rains, and what do we have, dears, just too bad, 10 feet long snakes. I was the only one amongst common hostel boys to have individual accommodation, so more scary. The water filter was located in a central position in the hostel, one night one such slimy, slithery character I've mentioned nearly went over a girl's foot (She was filling water in a bottle). She could not sleep for a few nights. Another was caught napping in a girl's bathroom, came in through a broken windowpane, had to be burned out with petrol. Water for bathing smelt fishy, unlike fresh Satluj water we Chandigarh folks are accustomed to. 25 students came down with food poisoning, fortunately recovered. Well, if you guys could only carry your cameras to campus. Foodie times, and you could sit amongst the monkeys feasting in the kitchen garbage thrown outside and click merrily with you cameras/camcorders, your choice of course. We had these simians amongst our breakfast tables one fine morning, again through an open window pane, these careless mess staff. Well, please do not carry your alarm clocks to your hostels, I know the schedule will be hectic, don't worry, at daybreak the peacocks I've just mentioned will go meow, meow. Saves on your batteries, every penny counts you know.
I just had a brainwave, why not remove the IBS board at the entrance and put up-ICFAI Zoo? No dears', the Dean might get upset, you'd know. As it is, he despises peacock for breakfast. Ha, ha!
Disclaimer:
No offence is meant to anybody/individual about this post. Diehard ICFAI-Gurgaon fans, also should be animal lovers too, are adviced to visit the campus to verify for their own satisfaction. All the best for those wanting to join this campus. This post is meant to share my own experience in a jestful manner, not to prove any point.
hey scorpio, my friend is a student there and nothing of that sort mentioned by my friend.
Hi All,
I am 2009 passout from ICFAI and still haven't got a job....When I registered for the programme I paid Rs.4000/- to ICAFI for the job assistance as they have a tie up with ALchemist....iTS Been over four months now..and haven't yet heard from them as yet.....what do I do now?These people didn't even give us the receipt for the regisrtion..!!!!!!
I am sure you know what is happening in job markets. Icfai is not oblivion to that. Anyway, why to write here. Write to them earnestly for job assistance, which you claim to have opted for.
All the ICFAI Business School aspirants,
Discussing over the matter of ICFAI is an ever ending discussion,which comes to play every year.
Anyways,after looking to the questions raised by the aspirants,wanted to stop by and clarify a little bit on the current issue of IBS.
It all started with madras high court verdict of closing all ICFAI universities institutes in Tamil Nadu including IBS-Chennai,the fact of it was that UGC doesn't approve the institutes running under any university which is situated at the offshore(that is other than its inducted state),likewise in the case of ICFAI University,Dehradun which is located in Dehradun but giving degrees to IBS across the country was being verdicted as non-affilated UGC degree.
Yes,the IBS degree is not recognised by AICTE.
Yes,Hyderabad and dehradun campus were out of this issue.(as hyd is itself a deemed univ,and dehradun being located in the inducted state)
Yes, many students who joined the various centres across INDIA left the institute,their fees was refunded(whole fees).I am talking abt the 09 batch only,and the senior batch is out of this matter.
Almost 200 students left the Gurgaon campus(I am very sure about this,the batch strength of 617 is reduced to around 390),the situation is same in the other campus like Mumbai,chennai,Bangalore etc.
This are the very true figures and facts.
Now coming to the other side of it,what is false looking to the above post made:
1> None of the campus has been closed,someone posted that Gurgaon campus is closed, well,today i attended the class till 4 pm,don't knw if the gates were shut down after that.This has crossed height of spreading airy noise.
2> Its not that Instute authority said that they are just running a coaching institute,and blah blah....its all inference made by the folks.
(Its coming out of no where)
3> Its not approved By UGC.
Clarifications:
1> This link has the answer of each and every doubt:
Deemed universities can still grant affiliation - India - NEWS - The Times of India
Kapil Sibal has clearly stated that Universities will be allowed to affilate their offshore campus,and the final list of all the university and colleges will be announced within 2 months.
2> Folks,i have been studying here,and everythng is perfect in this institute,faculty,batchmates,there are lods of work ex people,virtually all faculty have enough industry experience(passouts from IIT,IIM,all are phd holders),and there has been no flaws as such.
Coming to the palcements,last year batch of 580 was left with only 40 unplaced students(even other biggies have nt been able to give 100% placement). Companies like D E Shaw,UBS recruited the class of '10 ,and the list goes on.(Source- Placement representatives)
Only point where institute lack is good industry exposure.
Placement did last long,even its still going on for the last year batch.
And the palcement for the coming batch has also started.
Campus like Gurgaon,Mumbai and hyderabad are being placed in the top 50 B-Schools of INDIA(well now don't crib over the source and all crap)
So its all You and Your capabilities,and nothing blah blah matters,is what i know.
I have said all the facts to the best of my knowledge only.
I was only refeering to gurgaon,mumbai,bangalore and hyderabad campus. An advice to all the aspirants,consider only the 4 top branch of IBS(as stated by me)....and i can bet u,u will be elated and appreciate ur efforts when u join it....
* if people are telling so many facts,folks let me also apprise u of the fact that more than half the batch of IIM's(lucknow) are also sitting with no jobs in their hand(this hard times u know),I personally knw 1 person.Now just dnt start crying over this statement.this is the truth accept it,or just know it.
So please dnt just spread airy noise and misguide other futire aspirants.
Regards
Ayush Bansal
Batch 09-11
IBS-Gurgaon
is icfai recognised by aicte now..i have this doubt..????
PriyankaSiwatch Saysis icfai recognised by aicte now..i have this doubt..????
no ICFAI is not recognised by aicte. IBS hyd is a deemed univ rest all the colleges are not approved
Hello Everyone,
this is to inform u'll that DON'T build too much hope on ICFAI.....any campus.....its also being said that from this new batch onwards i.e Batch 2010 - 2012 onwards they are NOT goin to give an MBA degree.....it will JUST BE a PGPM (Post Graduate Program in Management). ONLY IBS (ICFAI Business School) Hyd will be givin an MBA degree.......other campuses will give PGPM............
Its NOT AT ALL worth d fees u'll will be paying say 8.5 lac + other living exps etc. The placements also u'll can't expect much.......u'll must have heard it all depends on an individual n all that..........but wht will u do when they can't get good companies.....
Apart from that d management is really sick......its NOT AT ALL WORTH d money u'll r putting in..............
if u'll think to get in IBS Hyd....with things like oooo wow d infrastructure is good.......n all that don't fool urself.........its impossible for them to place 1200+ students.......
also note this yr many campuses have been shut down...like IBS Chennai, IBS Goa & few others.........
think for urself...............speak to the current senior batch of 2010.....n then make a decision............
do good ground work...........
PLZ MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.............
Anyone on the current status of the IBS Recognition Case?
Try not to misguide juniors, Since it is matter of future:
with UGC approval, under Act 2A, Icfai dehradun cannot operate outside its territory. be it in Tamil nadu or any other states.check out UGC site, if needed, speak with them. Ask them if IBS campuses in other states is under proper regulation of icfai dehradun and even if icfai dehradun can impart distance learning program or any other degree outside its campus.
IBS faculty, placement, used to be excellent. But this year onwards, standard had gone down. they have delayed their admission process and for the first time they are accepting other test score like even "MAT"!!!!
As per leading Business journals includes different type, till last year, gurgaon and mumbai used to be among top 12 and 15 among all other B schools in India. Bangalore was never among rank even this year too. that is within 15 it used to be there. Now it is within 26.However Hyderbad continued to be in 8th position like other yrs.
By 15th May, last year, classes got started, still delayed a bit due to the election since grad exam of different colleges got delayed.Why did they delay for this yr? So, is it that they have started having problem over reputation??
So, if u consider, placement, faculty, course orientation, quality of education i.e books, library all are good above average, and personally i feel worth of joining for those who needs a platform for placement not for those who wanna do further higher study after this or gonna do PSU jobs.
But there are lots of insecurity, uncertainity, apprehension and different speculation and confusion regarding its degree and operation.
I am pretty sure even PGPM will not pose any threat to grab a decent placement. After all it is not conventional degree. IBS is also famous for its IBSAT. Co s know that the IBSAT selection process is for students who are above average.So they donot mind hiring and for so many yrs they are hiring from the campus itself. The students once joined here get trained for industrial orientation and corporate world.
But HRD ministry seems not to give importance to all these positive aspect that is imparting quality education. it seems like "rather u pursue mba from typical government university within 1laks as fees but no one knows what next after 2 yrs. The courses not industrial orientated, no case study, as such and no placement cell like these B schools.
Problem is that they are not classifying between a Good and Bad Private B schools.
Corporate worlds needs a guy from good Bschool not from university. Icfai university started with distance education, but IBS is considered to be B school. IBS this name was required to distinguish between two for who get admission easily for national colleges other one is IBS for those gone through stringent selection process. U may clarify with the management and they will agree.
However, last year, it seems they themselves used the word that they provide "coaching" in a meeting with chennai guys. check with the chennai students of 2010 in hyderbad or other campus.
Whether to join or not-- everything is good about this inst except the legal matter which is turning to be serious day by day..
Deemed universities can still grant affiliation - India - NEWS - The Times of India
This link doesnot have answer and not updated one. See the date of the news. It is June, 22, 2009.
To get an idea go through the latest development as dated on 30th April, 2010.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/ISB-among-201-institutes-running-sans-approval-HRD/articleshow/5869655.cms
Aicte is not in favour of IBs, Supreme court will deliver as per law of the land. Last hope was HRD, Since he is introducing new education bills. But that hope is gone after going through the news. He is very strict regarding regulation.
Last year it was different. since this year around 4 months before 22 universities were declared Fake. 44 deemed universities are in que of derecongnition. check UGC and AICTE sites.
It was come out heavily by Supreme Court.There is question raised by Supreme court if UGC can actually grant deemed status without aicte approval for a private college.
Whatever one thing is for sure, with UGC approval, under Act 2A, Icfai dehradun cannot operate outside its territory. be it in Tamil nadu or any other states.
It is true that few number of campuses got closed and not only chennai campus.
Where is Lucknow campus gone then?
students started class there last year.
The students who were forced to withdraw from the course, due to the closure, whole fee was not refunded. 32k was deducted, i guess that is also an investment.
Everything perfect till now doesnot guarantee that in future it will be perfect. Otherwise even everything was perfect initially for those who got closed last year. In the last minute nothing was perfect for them. Again it is all about apprehension. But anything can happen.Two cases are still pending in Supreme court that shows nothing ended actually with the closure of few campuses. Even Some of the studentsfrom different existing campuses withdrew their admission. Why? again question of sense of apprehension.
Nothing may happen or one single news flash may turn the table down. Whatever, for current students and for the juniors who all going to join except IBS hyderbad, it would be sense of insecurity, and uncertainity for their career. It applies for some of the reputated institutes as well, which no one thought can be in trouble.
No one is fool to spread rumour as college shut down getting confused with the day off for the campuses.
Best is to call UGC guys and ask them.wehter even ICFAI dehradun can impart pgpm to other ibs in other states. since verdict is going to be as per the law and regulation.
LOls.. u quotin mah orkut links.. 😁
ya i have quoted ur links..Since this link reflect the indication given by HRD minister, and it is recent and valuable..Not the one in 2009 july. The recent news and the content of the verdict pending in the Supreme Courts are going to be highly crucial in terms of its legal status of IBS in the days to come.
I have very much tried to be neutral in my discussiona and suggestion. It is easy for me to be neutral since I respect the Institution and know it pros and corns. It would have been more easier for me not to waste my time here but thought of awaring juniors since they should know everything and then decide accordingly.
Not use of crying foul after knowing the entire scenario and once they are joined.
Well ya..every1 knows that a case is pendin at Hon'ble Supreme Court of India. But you know, IBS is more famous for its industrial exposure and industry oriented curriculum! If u carefully review the status of the B Schools of our Country, one can see that more than half of dem do not possess any kind of affiliation! IBS do takes a comfortable lead over them as far as the curriculum and average placements go!
Right now, not much good colleges are taking part in the May Mat Examination. So it will be quite hard a choice for the guys to choose any other good colleges if they somehow gets selected at IBS Hyderabad, IBS Mumbai or IBS Bangalore.
Even if the verdict of the case goes against IBS, existing students of any batch (1st year or 2nd year) will not suffer. They should/would be shifted to some other campus of IBS (In this case preferably IBS Hyderabad).
And Lastly it is almost next to impossible that an entire IBS Group would shut down just like that. You know you can always challenge a case. (I guess the last case has been going around for nearly 1 year now)
I am not defending IBS, I am just trying to put up a positive hope for me and other aspirants!
Try not to misguide juniors, Since it is matter of future:
with UGC approval, under Act 2A, Icfai dehradun cannot operate outside its territory. be it in Tamil nadu or any other states.check out UGC site, if needed, speak with them. Ask them if IBS campuses in other states is under proper regulation of icfai dehradun and even if icfai dehradun can impart distance learning program or any other degree outside its campus.
IBS faculty, placement, used to be excellent. But this year onwards, standard had gone down. they have delayed their admission process and for the first time they are accepting other test score like even "MAT"!!!!
As per leading Business journals includes different type, till last year, gurgaon and mumbai used to be among top 12 and 15 among all other B schools in India. Bangalore was never among rank even this year too. that is within 15 it used to be there. Now it is within 26.However Hyderbad continued to be in 8th position like other yrs.
By 15th May, last year, classes got started, still delayed a bit due to the election since grad exam of different colleges got delayed.Why did they delay for this yr? So, is it that they have started having problem over reputation??
So, if u consider, placement, faculty, course orientation, quality of education i.e books, library all are good above average, and personally i feel worth of joining for those who needs a platform for placement not for those who wanna do further higher study after this or gonna do PSU jobs.
But there are lots of insecurity, uncertainity, apprehension and different speculation and confusion regarding its degree and operation.
I am pretty sure even PGPM will not pose any threat to grab a decent placement. After all it is not conventional degree. IBS is also famous for its IBSAT. Co s know that the IBSAT selection process is for students who are above average.So they donot mind hiring and for so many yrs they are hiring from the campus itself. The students once joined here get trained for industrial orientation and corporate world.
But HRD ministry seems not to give importance to all these positive aspect that is imparting quality education. it seems like "rather u pursue mba from typical government university within 1laks as fees but no one knows what next after 2 yrs. The courses not industrial orientated, no case study, as such and no placement cell like these B schools.
Problem is that they are not classifying between a Good and Bad Private B schools.
Corporate worlds needs a guy from good Bschool not from university. Icfai university started with distance education, but IBS is considered to be B school. IBS this name was required to distinguish between two for who get admission easily for national colleges other one is IBS for those gone through stringent selection process. U may clarify with the management and they will agree.
However, last year, it seems they themselves used the word that they provide "coaching" in a meeting with chennai guys. check with the chennai students of 2010 in hyderbad or other campus.
Whether to join or not-- everything is good about this inst except the legal matter which is turning to be serious day by day..
Deemed universities can still grant affiliation - India - NEWS - The Times of India
This link doesnot have answer and not updated one. See the date of the news. It is June, 22, 2009.
To get an idea go through the latest development as dated on 30th April, 2010.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/ISB-among-201-institutes-running-sans-approval-HRD/articleshow/5869655.cms
Aicte is not in favour of IBs, Supreme court will deliver as per law of the land. Last hope was HRD, Since he is introducing new education bills. But that hope is gone after going through the news. He is very strict regarding regulation.
Last year it was different. since this year around 4 months before 22 universities were declared Fake. 44 deemed universities are in que of derecongnition. check UGC and AICTE sites.
It was come out heavily by Supreme Court.There is question raised by Supreme court if UGC can actually grant deemed status without aicte approval for a private college.
Whatever one thing is for sure, with UGC approval, under Act 2A, Icfai dehradun cannot operate outside its territory. be it in Tamil nadu or any other states.
It is true that few number of campuses got closed and not only chennai campus.
Where is Lucknow campus gone then?
students started class there last year.
The students who were forced to withdraw from the course, due to the closure, whole fee was not refunded. 32k was deducted, i guess that is also an investment.
Everything perfect till now doesnot guarantee that in future it will be perfect. Otherwise even everything was perfect initially for those who got closed last year. In the last minute nothing was perfect for them. Again it is all about apprehension. But anything can happen.Two cases are still pending in Supreme court that shows nothing ended actually with the closure of few campuses. Even Some of the studentsfrom different existing campuses withdrew their admission. Why? again question of sense of apprehension.
Nothing may happen or one single news flash may turn the table down. Whatever, for current students and for the juniors who all going to join except IBS hyderbad, it would be sense of insecurity, and uncertainity for their career. It applies for some of the reputated institutes as well, which no one thought can be in trouble.
No one is fool to spread rumour as college shut down getting confused with the day off for the campuses.
Best is to call UGC guys and ask them.wehter even ICFAI dehradun can impart pgpm to other ibs in other states. since verdict is going to be as per the law and regulation.
hahaha....have a look at this my friend...its a hear rending account of a student who is suffering along with the whole batch due to the stupidity and apathy of people who are responsible...
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/other-exams-xat-fms-jmet/53558-the-truth-about-ibs-kolkata.html#post2083829
You conclude folks....dont tell me its just one campus...its around 1000 lives who suffer.....
As what you were telling all the campus cannot stop all of a sudden. It can actually if the verdict is strong and not in favour. Like Icfai tech that was forced to close all the campuses due to the verdict couple of years back.
Mat can be the option as you told since there are right now colleges that have proper accreditation and affiliation and comes under MAT.
Now we think that even if the verdict is negative then at least they should give time so that current student would be able to pass out and let them pass out. But in similar kind of other verdict, they normally do not look the interest of the current students and make the verdict to come in-effect immediately. The Justice panels justify this, by telling in the interest of the future students and the society, they are delivering this kind of strong verdict that will actually carry forward a strong message. Actually whenever there is a case pending in Supreme Court regarding affiliation the institute is supposed to stop admission till the verdict is out. Once Verdict is out from Supreme Court that would be final and any re-petition would be the least feasible option specially when HRD minister is also not in favour.
Juniors, I think should seek a clear clarification regarding the opinion of HRD along with the seniors to the management before joining itself.
STATUS OF AICTE APPROVED PGDM (GOVT./GOVT. AIDED/UNIVERSITY/SELF FINANCING) INSTITUTIONS FOR THE ACADEMIC YEAR 2009-2010
http://www.aicte-india.org/downloads...entralpgdm.pdf
Look into the link for ICFAI ,Hyderabad.
Details regarding UGC status "Deemed to University" to ICFAI,Hyderabad.
::eemed University - University Grants Commission :::
::eemed University - University Grants Commission :::
Look into the links.
IBS Hyderabad established in 1995 is now a constituent of Icfai Foundation for Higher Education (IFHE) which was declared to be a deemed to be University under section 3 of the UGC Act, 1956. IBS Hyderabad has been ranked among the top 10 business schools in India in various independent surveys like Business Today, C fore Mint (Please visit website: Mint ePaper on September 12, 200, Outlook etc. IBS Hyderabad has received SAQs (South Asian Quality Systems) accreditation. IBS Hyderabad is one of three Business Schools from South Asia selected under Asia link program SAQS sponsored by EFMD and AMDISA and funded by European Commission.
The Approval of AICTE sanctioned for any private deemed university would be temporary for a year or so then the review committee would revisit the campus to grant the permanent status and that would be in effect for the next 5 year. The status is supposed to be reviewed every 5 years for all the deemed private university.
This secured legal position of IBS Hyderab doesnot secure other campuses of IBS since IBS Hyderabad cannot run any course outside its territory. There is no problem with IBS Hyderabad in terms of its legal status or placement so no point of discussing about it. ICFAI university in Dehradun, is also secured in terms of its legal position but weak in placement. Personally think, not a good idea to invest such amount for Dehradun campus. Till last year, it was out of questions and so did not reflect in the Program Option form. The placement is good and decent for so many years in other IBS campuses not because of ICFAI university but due to a well coordination between IBS respective campuses and IBS Hyderabad since IBS been converted in a brand value. BUt the problem has started since it has loops in its legal status and this has been taken a very serious view by Supreme Court as in the case verdict till now and also by Hon Hrd minister Mr Sibal as his voice echoed in Parliament.