Hi,
Really informative thread.
- Can anybody provide some information on Masters In Technology management Program at UIUC ( other than what is mentioned on the program site).
- Are there more programs in US which offer specialization in technology management ( for experienced candidates who have 4-6 years of technology exp)
thanks in advance.
Hi,
Really informative thread.
- Can anybody provide some information on Masters In Technology management Program at UIUC ( other than what is mentioned on the program site).
- Are there more programs in US which offer specialization in technology management ( for experienced candidates who have 4-6 years of technology exp). thanks in advance.
The best Technology Management, Industrial Engineering, Engineering Management programs tend to be offered by the Universities that house top Engineering schools - so yes, you should find such programs in the US quite easily. A pattern seen more recently is to offer quasi-technical programs in biotech / healthcare / systems engineering / operations research etc. Example - MS in IT - eBusiness Technology... or MS&E; ... or... TPP Curriculum....
Check out the US news ranking of America's best Graduate Engineering Schools - and research their websites for programs offered by their professional schools of engineering, sciences or computing and check out the university's business school as well for any inter-disciplinary programs combining engineering and management subjects.
UIUC is a well known engineering school and you shouldn't worry about the program's quality. The larger problem is the US (& most western economies).
Good luck.
HI DUDUE FIRSTLY NICE WORK ...... 
INFORMATIVE THREAD.....
WANTED TO ASK YOU ABT FIELD OF HR.....
i wanted to knw wht other option i have for HR other than MBA....???
(india or anywhere)
i do understand abt its field,,,,like recruitments ....T &D; ....payrolls ...compensation ....etc etc....but i always thought that HR would go beyond this ...all.....and would become a integral part of a company development and more sort of ECONOMICS+HR...process or we can say project start process thing.....
i have to admit i always couldnt put this in proper example sort of thing untill i meet this xlri mba chap ...now i have a example of the term "integral"............He has done his mba and is into M&A; part for his company...started with generalist post and all ...now he sits with finnance guys when they think of M&A; ....looking upon all factors by which he can use that HUMAN resources to a good deal or money or proper integration....as we can put it....
so i wanted to knw you have any information abt various HR options apart from the standard ones.... ...so that i can bring more value to the field and study something more differrrrrent and wide....
hope i have been clear ......
thanx
note: just to be clear i do think HR is not a all support no revenue thing...its still is a money creating thing for company as there in ROI( return on investment ) for recruitment and T&D; ...so i ama beliiiiiiverrrrrrrr in the field......
me:BE+3yrs wrk-ex
BaccardiSprite - your precise answers are brilliant. Thank you for starting this thread.
I need some advice on the MSc in International Business programs I'm considering.
Profile:
Graduated high school in '02, worked for a coupla years in IT and retail, got a B.S in Management Information Systems and Marketing from Arizona State University (CGPA 3.82), been working in IT for a few months, taking the GMAT on Jan 23 (projected score: approx 730). Currently learning French, to be at least a B1 level before the start of Sept 09. I also plan to start learning Spanish soon, and be about an A2 by the time September rolls around.
I'm considering a Masters in International Management, and am applying to HEC (with CEMS option), LSE, RSM with CEMS(Rotterdam), ESCP-EAP and two safe options (need to choose from Essec, Grenoble, Audencia Nantes, Cass and Stockholm School of Economics).
1. What are the career opportunities like, for HEC, LSE, RSM and ESCP-EAP?
2. I can't decide on the safe schools - some help on reputation and employment opportunties after graduation, if you happen to know, would be wonderful.
3. While I know that Europe is, geographically, where I want to be for the next 5-7 years, I want to, somewhat hesistantly, add that I have no idea what kind of profile I am looking at, having graduated with a Masters in International Management. I realize a quasi-technical degree might make looking for a position easier, but I really, really like the curriculum that constitutes these IManagement degrees.
4. What is the reputation of CEMS like? Is it as good as Financial Times will have me believe? The concept of CEMS reads great, but I have no clue how it translates to actual employment opportunities.
5. What is the working visa situation like, if an Indian national wanted to work in the EU after graduation?
I realize this is a lot of questions, but I really would be extremely, extremely grateful if you could possibly help me out with this. Mucho, mucho gracias.
-Rish
I'm interested in the CIMA. I will be graduating in 2009.( mumbai university, B.com-banking and insurance). What are the employment opportunities after passing or getting the diploma in management accounting from CIMA in India?
If CFA is as good as MBA finance then y to spend so much doing MS Finance/ MBA finance..basically how do we compare CFA and MBA FIn and MS FInance
baccardisprite SaysThere might be courses in marketing... but going through them, they look a bit fluffy to me... I would always suggest more quantitative programs for people. An MBA would for you be a more rounded experience.
Hi...i too am looking for courses in Marketing, mostly in UK. I went through a few course/universtiy websites offering those and I am not quite sure I understand what you mean when u say 'Fluffy'? Are they really not what they are presented to be...not worth the investment?
Also, considering I have 3 years of Work ex in Market Research, would you recommend the courses?
HI DUDUE FIRSTLY NICE WORK ......INFORMATIVE THREAD.....hope i have been clear ......
thanx
note: just to be clear i do think HR is not a all support no revenue thing...its still is a money creating thing for company as there in ROI( return on investment ) for recruitment and T&D; ...so i ama beliiiiiiverrrrrrrr in the field......
me:BE+3yrs wrk-ex
Firstly - I apologize to you and other posters for delayed responses, as I haven't really managed to log into PG for the last several weeks.
Secondly - Happy New Year to you and I wish you and all of PG a lot of success in 2009 and beyond.
You're quite right about the evolution of HR in the last 5-7 years, and I am glad to see you have made the effort to gather usable & applicable insight about this field.
Like marketing however, HR remains a local / regional function in the first 5-7 years in a person's career in this field. Early to mid-career HR roles tend to be local where you have to be a native of the country where the company operates / places you and speak at least one of the local languages with native fluency. As an example - you cannot expect to get into an HR role in a Spanish company in Spain without speaking Spanish and knowing a lot about Spanish / Latin culture.
International / Global HR roles tend to be senior roles for people with 8-10 years (age 35-40) for people who have acquired a lot of experience in the field and further specialized in this function for particular industries or industry groups. They also (as you have rightly pointed out) tend to have business strategic (read M&A; due diligence / acquisition integration) responsibilities at this level. Needless to say - their skills go beyond just HR, they have a firm understanding of their company's business, industry and what it really takes to grow the business (good people and skillful commerce). A person interested to reach here generally has to do the hard yards!
I would therefore suggest you apply to one of India's stronger MBA programs (IIM, XL, FMS, IIFT or even ISB), try to swing an entry into the (possibly HR focussed) Leadership / Rotational Program of a major industry player. A close friend of mine graduated XLRI 3 years ago and is now a regional HR executive with a major Telecom player (started in India, now based in Singapore). So certainly workable and you're still young enough to start here (24-25?).
Secondly - please don't feel shy to network. Family / friends of family / your friends (who may / not be in the field) are all excellent sources of information and advice. Connect to people and you will find opportunities in front of you and doors opening.
Third - use your time to learn a major foreign language! It will improve your employment prospects in this field immensely.
Hope all this is useful and all the best.
Cheerz
BaccardiSprite - your precise answers are brilliant. Thank you for starting this thread.
I need some advice on the MSc in International Business programs I'm considering.
-Rish
Hi, I have answered your PM. Apologies again for the delay.
Cheerz & All the best.
20.deepak SaysIf CFA is as good as MBA finance then y to spend so much doing MS Finance/ MBA finance..basically how do we compare CFA and MBA FIn and MS FInance
Educational choices depend on career choices. MBAs tend to go into more commercially focussed finance careers - the sell side of the business i.e banks (investment, commercial and retail + corporate finance orgs of companies). The sell side "seeks" capital / funds / Investment, and as such requires "marketing" and networking skills. Investment banks find clients to lend to and borrow from. MBAs also tend to target the financial leadership and rotational programs of major industrial companies.
CFAs are heavily quantitative financial analysis careers (securities, equities and alternative investments) that find their niche in the buy side of the business - i.e with firms that have capital to invest (PE, HF, VC and funds of funds, pension funds etc, and more recently sovereign wealth funds, and corporate organizations investing their funds).
CFAs typically provide insight into the risk/reward equation going into investing funds, and as such have to be highly quantitative in their outlook (of course reasonable communicators as well). As such, being buy-side - these tend to have "more power" so to speak, particularly now when the banks are scrambling to beef-up asset bases. Over the years, the buy-side is a sought after career for financial professionals.
CFA Charterholders (and specialized MS Finance graduates to an extent) tend to be respected in buy-side roles because they have gone through a rigourous, professionally endorsed and highly quantitative program.
Cheerz & good luck
avantgarde SaysHi...i too am looking for courses in Marketing, mostly in UK. I went through a few course/universtiy websites offering those and I am not quite sure I understand what you mean when u say 'Fluffy'? Are they really not what they are presented to be...not worth the investment? Also, considering I have 3 years of Work ex in Market Research, would you recommend the courses?
Marketing courses are of course less quantitative than financially focussed courses. That's why I used the term fluffy.
To also put my opinion in context - IF you seek a marketing career in the UK (example), it will be a challenge at your age given you don't have applicable UK based experience. Marketing is a people / customer - oriented / culturally focussed function and not having any insight into any of these would make you unsuitable (in recruiter's eyes) for a UK based marketing career immediately after your (even if) Masters in Marketing. It's not the course itself - it's you!
To make yourself more saleable to a UK job market - you need to do at least initially focus on careers where the UK job market accepts non-UK and non-EU candidates. These careers tend to be more quantitatively focussed, like operations and finance. After gathering relevant industry experience - people do shift into more client facing roles like sales & marketing.
IF you want to work in marketing in India - pointless going for a Master's Degree abroad.
Hope that clarifies.
Cheerz and good luck.
Marketing courses are of course less quantitative than financially focussed courses. That's why I used the term fluffy.
To also put my opinion in context - IF you seek a marketing career in the UK (example), it will be a challenge at your age given you don't have applicable UK based experience. Marketing is a people / customer - oriented / culturally focussed function and not having any insight into any of these would make you unsuitable (in recruiter's eyes) for a UK based marketing career immediately after your (even if) Masters in Marketing. It's not the course itself - it's you!
To make yourself more saleable to a UK job market - you need to do at least initially focus on careers where the UK job market accepts non-UK and non-EU candidates. These careers tend to be more quantitatively focussed, like operations and finance. After gathering relevant industry experience - people do shift into more client facing roles like sales & marketing.
IF you want to work in marketing in India - pointless going for a Master's Degree abroad.
Hope that clarifies.
Cheerz and good luck.
Thanks, that does clarify. Just a few more queries, I have been going through these websites of MSc in Management or Marketing courses and none of them seem to be specific about any work ex requirement.
I am quite apprehensive about the fact that if i join one such course, is my work ex likely to be waste, considering most others would be freshers?
Also, how important is the time since the course is running? I am specifically interested in the course -MSc in Business Analytics and Consulting at Warwick Business School. It's curriculum very suited to what I am already doing, adn would only add further to my profile. However, the course only started in 2008. and requires no work ex. Do you think I should apply to it? a colleague said I might be overqualified for this course. I have mailed the officials, and am awaiting their response as well.
Also, since my academic records are not good, therefore I'm avoiding going in for an MBA. Do you think that is the right decision?
At the age of 21-22, shipping & logistics are not taught, they're learnt on the job. I would encourage you to start looking for a jon in this field with companies like Maersk India (who run a pretty successful Management Training program), or other shipping companies like CMA-CGM India, Mitsui OSK Lines, NOL etc... or Airline & Courier companies like DHL India. You will have to start small - earning probably INR 12-15K a month, but with ambition and professional / personal discipline, you will learn fast. 2-3 years and you'll be truly ready to take on a Master's in Logistics program.
Currently, I do not know of any good University based program in India for this particular field. Most if not all of the training is experiential and offered by various companies at various levels.
The AMET is a college to train sailors, and is not as prestigious as sailor training programs offered by MERI / Chanakya etc..
Hi,
Thanks a tonn for the reply.
As you have suggested, I have been trying to hitch a job with one of the liners, but no body seems to be recruiting at this point of time! And as far as Maersk is concerned, I had already given the test for MISE, but could not make it. Now I am over aged according to their standards!!!
Thanks a million again for the reply...
Cheers.
Hi bacardi sprite!
I am interested in a masters/ MBA course with a focus on advertising and media. Is there any really good course available in U.S/ UK/Canada?. Could you suggest a few names to me? What would be the admission criteria?
What are the opportunities available after this?,. Since , i am primarily interested in the entertainment and media industry, is it better to do a specialized course in the same rather than a general MBA?. Thanks a lot!
I am interested in a masters/ MBA course with a focus on advertising and media. Is there any really good course available in U.S/ UK/Canada?. Could you suggest a few names to me? What would be the admission criteria?
What are the opportunities available after this?,. Since , i am primarily interested in the entertainment and media industry, is it better to do a specialized course in the same rather than a general MBA?. Thanks a lot!
Hi guys, this thread is really useful and straight to the point beyond ambiguities, baccardi is really kind since everybody are encouraging how to up skills the career, and over pointless discussions:
Have you guys considered the Universities that are not blue-chips options? I mean top of the ranking, for example Leicester, Sheffield, Manchester Metro, Southampton, they are certainly a good option in UK but since they lack of recognition outside of UK, DO they worth the effort?
My situation as follow: B.A in Economics with 4 years experience on investment banking, 1 year running my own IT consulting toward SMEs unfortunately never took off (now I realized was too early to start this venture) it bears mentioning I suffered mayor monetary losses , and now working in Dublin not in a relatively good position, and my major problem 32 years old,good scholar grades, I KNOW I wasted I lot of valuable time traveling and doing other activities,therefore the result: I can't afford a top MBA either for my work's credentials nor monetary terms Any suggestions? I tough to apply for MSc IT in warwick, because I don't want to wait to normalize my situation. So the question of million pounds, keep going in this lousy job saving money getting grey hair alongside or go straight to warwick? maybe a low rank MBA? I'd like to return home after a Master and a couple of years working in UK , by the way I'm Argentinean cheers.. Any suggestion more than welcome
low ranking MBA in UK, good MSc in UK, or good university at home?? dilema
Mate, first of all, stop posting fake post. will u?
BA ECONOMICS nd IB ???I have a lot of friends from DU (THE BEST)....who after SRCC and Stephens didnt get through even research firms (KPOs) !!!
Well u would have got through unless u donated 2 million dollars to a school ..so clarify!!
In case it is nt, i really doubt ur research!! since when did Leicester, Sheffield, Manchester Metro, Southampton become great (EVEN SCHOOLS WORTH MENTIONING ...its better to ur mba from SCMHRD/SIBM (some b schools in pune) than going to these schools....
Secondly,,,u said 4 yrs in IB...I dont buy that...had u been a banker u wouldnt have written this post...so r u in the IT/admin division of some bank???stop posting crap mate just to satisfy ur false ego.
U werent serious bout ur career till date...why this sudden splurge??...things dont change suddenly nd there r people who have worked hard in their careers to get admits..so get real mate (or may i say u jerk)!!
Peace
M
Ooh my, first at all you are the jerk OK, and what I did that 4 years who clearly annoying you so much was financial analysis, and afterI tried to run my own business which did not success, What is wrong with that? Not everybody have a Vanilla plan or a career to the letter, or want to become a top corporate employee, or to live for working. Now that I realized my mistake of not being congruent and tenacious on my proffesion I just want going back to a proper track, and I asked an oppinion but anyway , just keep going,
Sorry for the spam to the other people
Hi bacardi sprite!
I am interested in a masters/ MBA course with a focus on advertising and media. Is there any really good course available in U.S/ UK/Canada?. Could you suggest a few names to me? What would be the admission criteria?
What are the opportunities available after this?,. Since , i am primarily interested in the entertainment and media industry, is it better to do a specialized course in the same rather than a general MBA?. Thanks a lot!
If you're young and have no experience in the Mass Com / Media / Entertainment industry - a specialist program might help you better. Do note some of my previous posts on this where I have mentioned the experiential nature of most careers in this field. Most people in the industry have entered young.
Please look at the www.lse.ac.uk - the London School of Economics, and check out their taught Master's programs on the prospectus (online). One of these is the M.Sc in Mass Communications, they run an individual degree and some dual degree programs.
Cheerz & Good luck
hi baccardisprite
i am a final year engg student from manipal institute of technology.i have scored 99.32 in cat 2008 and 99.57 in xat .but i have not received a call from IIMs .the only call that i have right now is from 'sjmsom iit bombay'(other results awaited).
i am looking for a course with a duration of 11 to 12 months(like MS in Finance or Economics).basically i thought of doing a course of this kind and reappearing for cat 2009.but then i came to know about the masters in management at LBS which is for aspirants without workex.i want to know the job prospects after this program.are the placements comparable with those from xlri ?is it a good idea to pursue this program and then follow it with an indian mba ?
I wouldn't discount IIT-SOM, this is a fairly good school attached to probably the best Engg School in Asia (amongst other IIT's laying the same claim :-).
I don't think the LBS runs a Masters in Management, they do run a Masters in Finance! If you are interested to start a career in finance, target a career in finance by joining a financial services company or an M.Sc in finance - try out schools like City University's Cass School or Imperial College's Tanaka Business School. Mind you, these schools do prefer people with around 1-2 years experience.
Financial recruiting globally is pretty much in the doldrums right now, and the UK / US are the worst affected of all. India's not spared either....
If I were you - i'd hedge bets and go to SJM.
Good luck
coolmayank123 SaysOK OK OK...THIS WAS THIS GUYS FIRST POST!!!!!!Sorry everyone for wasting the space nd also for wasting time.
Congratulations on your HBS admit. Clearly a great stepping stone to future career :-).
Cheerz & all the best
Hi there,
i don't know where to post this query and get some valid info about it...so here it is !
i am a BE in E&Tc; with 54% marks and MBA in Aviation Mgmt. with 75% marks all from Indian universities.
i have a work experience of around 2.5 years in Marketing domain.
I want to pursue a PG Certificate course from Canada in IB or Marketing.
I am getting such courses only from Community colleges like George Brown, Sheridan, Centennial, Seneca etc.
Will such a course help me in any way secure a decent job in Canada?
In short how good these courses are for someone who doesn't wish to do a double MBA but wants a specialized course at the cost of his present job ?