International educational options beyond the MBA

Hey,

I have 2 yrs of work ex in manufacturing industry. I want to knw if i apply for MS ( mech engg) next year.. will i have any benefits due to my work ex; as per my info freshers also get into MS courses easily.

does it mean dat my 2 yrs are wasted???


No experience is wasted as long as you learn something from it. Your educational target seems to indicate you want to make manufacturing a long term career. Which is good!

How about working for 5 years, then applying to an Engineering / Operations Management / MBA combination program, something like the LGO Program at MIT (Global Operations Management MBA | MIT) or the Michigan MBA with Manufacturing concentration or the MMM at Kellogg or the M.S in Industrial Engineering at Georgia Tech or the M.S in Management Science at Stanford.

Why deadline yourself with 2 years of experience?

All the best
Baccardisprite
thanks for the detailed advice. kinda cleared up some of the fog i was stumbling in regarding my future plans.

have one query, for someone looking to get into investment banking field, and early in career, would doing an MS in Finance help?

and if so, is UK a better option or the US? some people tell me, US university curriculum focuses more on research point of view of the topic while UK is more profession oriented course. while i get conflicting responses from others.

i know doing the MS in US is a 2 year course, which implies increased costs and time, but at same time, the job/visa situation in UK/ financial markets in europe aren't going through a good time right now. so there is some confusion.

Lastly, supposed someone does an MS Fin, is there any point in pursuing an MBA after 4-5 years of work exp? or will the MS in Finance provide the required push to get into the field, and the rest is all upto our performance?


Frankly, if you want to go into Investment Banking this early in your career, you'd be better of attempting the CAT/XAT or similar and getting into a Top Indian B-School, then see where it goes. You'd need to be in the Top 10% academically in your class to get a 1st round look in at any of the major banks.

The only MS in Finance in the US that might help you from a career perspective (i.e your citizenship may be less important) is the M.S Finance in Princeton, where anecdotal evidence suggests all graduates regardless of nationality and vosa status get placed well (US and outside). The UK simply hasn't recovered yet enough for all job seekers in finance to be treated with a degree of equality. Meaning you're competing against those who lost jobs during the recession (banking & city jobs most affected), local candidates easier to hire (logistically, administratively & financially), and a general unfriendliness towards non-EU nationals in both blue and white collar job markets. The hustle factor to get a job in both the US and the EU is extremely high.

Unless you want to go the CAT route, I would build skills in your current career options now (transaction advisory / consulting). You need to be patient and diligent, your skills will be in demand 5-7 years from now, and you can do either an M.S / MBA to give your existing skills a boost at the time.

All the best
Baccardisprite
Hi baccardisprite...if you remember, I am the one who was posting queries on your managed thread regarding China.

I am going there next year,after I finish my Post Graduation here from the Delhi School of Economics.
I will do my best to become fluent in the language as well as to understand the Chinese culture in full detail.

You told me that as a proficient speaker of Chinese and English, which many Indians are not, I have a great chance of being snapped up by companies of either countries looking to cross their respective frontiers.

But the thing is, they will take me as a translator or an interpreter, thats it. I really don't want to do a job like that, it doesn't sound that good to me.

What I was thinking was if I could, in the freshman interviews, portray myself as a Business Development guy or something for those Chinese MNCs. One reason comes to my mind: as an Indian, one would like to do business with the Chinese, no doubt about it. But would not it be comfortable for him to deal with an Indian in that Chinese company, because of the comfort level??
Or maybe, again my thinking, wouldn't I be a better employee for the Chinese firms seeking Indian business interests, because I can better understand what the Indian counterpart wants, I could negotiate better with the Indians, I could bring in the feel-good factor in dealings and probably search more clients for them and thus bring more on the table for the company than a Chinese fresh graduate with no knowledge of India.
Because even at the end of the day, even though the world is globalised, my first go-to point, even in Switzerland, will be you rather than a multi-billion dollar worth Swiss.

But I am inexperienced, do not have a technical qualification(Economics from DU),and will be a trouble for the firm because of Visa issues.

I am taking lots of assumptions here. Am i thinking right?? Is that the kind of job I should be looking forward to?? I have made up my mind that I am following my dream,going to China for one year at least to learn their culture,language,way of life.. just thinking of what-after...


You're highly confused. Your basic & masters level education in Economics is highly applicable to a business focused career. I don't see any reason why companies would refuse you. Finish your Masters in DSE, go to China and enjoy the skill enhancement.

When you're in China, look for mentors (INdian & Chinese), get guidance, seek insight - then apply for jobs. Take it slow - learn the environment, respect it, then position yourself for the right jobs with the right guidance.

All the best
Baccardisprite
Hi Baccardisprite, I have been following this thread since the last week..the amount of insight and help ur providing to the aspirants is commendable.. Here's my case. I would be completing my grad in engineering this august..I read ur 1st post, suggesting freshers to go for quantitative based courses..I am very keen to get into the communications managment/market research sector..but I really am not sure how to start..i am not really interested in finance..

I want to do my masters in communications managment or strategic marketing.bt as u have mentioned this wudnt be a great option for freshers in EU countries.how can i build my profile to achieve it?searched fr certification courses nd courses in business language,and came across CIM and IDM.I hav applied for internshps at sum major media houses thru some contacts.how much wud that help?and which r d best institutes offering dese courses in EU,US,Canada.


You seek a career that's highly experience driven - with the base experience being marketing communications / advertizing / sales / brand management etc.

I would recommend seeking and getting a job in the field in India, gaining some solid experience then move abroad. For that - please study for and give the CAT / XAT or similar, get into a Top Indian b-school, and get into a major product or marketing services driven (FMCG, Durables, Devices, Engineered products, advertizing, mobile telecom) company with a strong sales & marketing bent, and take it from there. MICA in Ahmedabad is another good option for marketing communications.

Frankly - if you go abroad and spend INR 20-40L for a Masters Degree, you'll have nothing to offer that particular job market, so a pointless investment at your age.

All the best
Baccardisprite
Soham.B Says
I want know about Master of accountancy/phd from a reputable university abroad. What is the scope of a amsters degree without an accounting certification. Its difficult to pursure international accounting prfessional degrees like ACCA/CPA without earning . so ideally I would love to do my masters there and then work there and ultimately get the certification.Also doing masters count as credit points for the course as well. Ohh I am b.com(H) graduate presently doing my masters in finance and accountancy here in India Calcutta University but its far from satisfactory. Not at all industry oriented or empirical research oriented.


How is it easier to pursue a Masters in Accountancy / PhD from a reputable university abroad (without earning) - than to pursue an ACCA/CPA in India? Fact is, professionally inexperienced international candidates will bring nothing to those job markets, so why should employers in those markets notice you?

So if earning makes it easier to pursue ACCA/CIMA/CPA or similar, why not get a job and earn?

All the best
Baccardisprite
Hi baccardisprite, I am in my final year of civil engineering from University of Birmingham ,UK.
i want to do my masters in business/mangement with specialization in entrepreneurship directly after my graduation and probably get my industrial exposure in an construction firm for probabaly 2-3 years. i am planning to give gmat this october.
could u help me with the courses and colleges available for fresh graduates in india and abroad ( uk, usa, singapore preferred) like i have heard a few like mim at lbs and also iimC and iimB do take fresh graduates on the basis of gmat score for their full time mba.
many thanks


I would suggest getting industrial exposure in a construction firm for 4-6 years, then going for an Entrepreneurially focused Masters Degree!

As for colleges, a top MBA from any of the leading schools in the geography should provide you with the right networks to access for your venture going forward.

Frankly - use your education (Civil Engineers are in high demand in India), gain experience, save money, build skills, equity and credibility over a 4-6 year period, then educate yourself and give your prospective future employer or capital provider something they can't ignore.

All the best
Baccardisprite

Hi Baccardisprite,
I have gone through your threads and saw that you have been helping each and every guy here. My Q is quite general....I did BSc (3 years) and MBA--Distance learning (took it seriously and got A grade). I am in financial research (writing industry and company reports, doing number crunching) but now looking some stagnancy in my career....I am not looking for MBA but an MS finance programme in US. My Q is that most of these universities ask for 4 years bachelors which is not in my case...so do these universities settle for my above credentials? Also if you can also suggest a cost effective good programme from a good university.....
Thanks a lot in advance

Regards
Motivation

Hi Baccardisprite,
I have gone through your threads and saw that you have been helping each and every guy here. My Q is quite general....I did BSc (3 years) and MBA--Distance learning (took it seriously and got A grade). I am in financial research (writing industry and company reports, doing number crunching) but now looking some stagnancy in my career....I am not looking for MBA but an MS finance programme in US. My Q is that most of these universities ask for 4 years bachelors which is not in my case...so do these universities settle for my above credentials? Also if you can also suggest a cost effective good programme from a good university.....
Thanks a lot in advance. Regards
Motivation


The only way to find out is to write to them, and ask them directly. Explain your situation to them openly. Hopefully you did your Distance Learning MBA from a UGC Recognized School or an AICTE recognized / accredited business school? Was your Distance Learning MBA called an MBA or was it called a "PGDM" or something similar? Do you have the complete record of your grades and transcripts? University Adcomms are normally responsive to direct queries. Ask them, you lose nothing, but you might gain actionable insight :-)!

There're a lot of inexpensive / cost-effective programs in the US & UK. However, before looking at the cost - please ensure you're going to the best University in light of what you want to do & where you want to be with your career. Do that first.

Some of the best known finance focused programs in the US are Princeton's 2 year Masters in Finance, and Berkeley's MFE (1 year). The UK has some pretty well known finance programs offered by the country's leading business schools & Universities - LBS offer the MiF, City University has a load of M.Sc Programs tailored for different financial careers, LSE offers excellent finance programs, Ox-Cam offer variations as well (Quant Finance, Financial Engineering etc). The UK would accept the 3 year B.Sc.

Ask the universities directly.

All the best
Baccardisprite
hi,baccardisprite
U doing wonderful work to help puys........
I have few queries....
My profile is
10th : 78%
12th : 76%
B.com in accounting & finance : 75% in final year and aggregate 58%.
join Godrej & Boyce last month in logistic department as a graduate trainee......
I want to make my career in accounting & finance field....
i search some courses related accounting & finance...
I want help regarding this one course in uni. Of melbourne is diploma in accounting...
this is 2 year course and i may apply for nov. 2012 or feb .2013 batch...
So,till that my experience is also 1 year and i am thinking to appear for CFA level 1 course.....
So,can you tell me about the job prospectus after the course and current job situation in australia?
Is it worth to go there?

Thanks a lot.......

Hello
Plz reply to my query....
Thanks
The only way to find out is to write to them, and ask them directly. Explain your situation to them openly. Hopefully you did your Distance Learning MBA from a UGC Recognized School or an AICTE recognized / accredited business school? Was your Distance Learning MBA called an MBA or was it called a "PGDM" or something similar? Do you have the complete record of your grades and transcripts? University Adcomms are normally responsive to direct queries. Ask them, you lose nothing, but you might gain actionable insight :-)!

There're a lot of inexpensive / cost-effective programs in the US & UK. However, before looking at the cost - please ensure you're going to the best University in light of what you want to do & where you want to be with your career. Do that first.

Some of the best known finance focused programs in the US are Princeton's 2 year Masters in Finance, and Berkeley's MFE (1 year). The UK has some pretty well known finance programs offered by the country's leading business schools & Universities - LBS offer the MiF, City University has a load of M.Sc Programs tailored for different financial careers, LSE offers excellent finance programs, Ox-Cam offer variations as well (Quant Finance, Financial Engineering etc). The UK would accept the 3 year B.Sc.

Ask the universities directly.

All the best
Baccardisprite


Hi Baccadisprite,
I did MBA from Sikkim Manipal, its an MBA programme and I have all the transcripts/degree and records.
Thank you very much for your help! Really appreciate that a lot. I am surely not opting for UK, but either US or Asia-Pacific (NUS/NTU). The latter gives recognition to 3 years degree.
Thank you very much again.

Regards

hi,baccardisprite
U doing wonderful work to help puys........
I have few queries....
My profile is
10th : 78%
12th : 76%
B.com in accounting & finance : 75% in final year and aggregate 58%.
join Godrej & Boyce last month in logistic department as a graduate trainee......
I want to make my career in accounting & finance field....
i search some courses related accounting & finance...
I want help regarding this one course in uni. Of melbourne is diploma in accounting...
this is 2 year course and i may apply for nov. 2012 or feb .2013 batch...
So,till that my experience is also 1 year and i am thinking to appear for CFA level 1 course.....
So,can you tell me about the job prospectus after the course and current job situation in australia?
Is it worth to go there?

Thanks a lot.......



I am not too familiar with the Australian system of work-permits for Masters Degree students / graduates. The Australian Economy is growing strongly, albeit dependent on mining, agriculture, natural resources and all the support infrastructure (including logistics) for these industries! So your career opportunities are likely to be largely in that space. Australia seems to have recently opened up to International Graduates studying Masters degrees in the major Australian Universities and may offer a pathway for you to study, then work and settle in Australia.

Note however, that you don't have much experience, so if / when you start on a job in Australia, you will start at the lowest levels.

The University of Melbourne (if that's what you refer to - http://www.unilmelb.edu.au) is a well known University and one of Australia's best - and to maximize your opportunities I would recommend going for a full on Masters Degree instead of just a Graduate Diploma.

A CFA is different from an Accounting Qualification, and if you want to go that route, please understand the career opportunities at your age would naturally be different, although there may be some convergence of skill and experience at a more senior stage (10-15 years later). If you are considering a CFA now, then makes more sense to consider a Master's Degree in Corporate Finance / Quantitative Finance instead of an accounting degree.

Hope that helps
All the best
Baccardisprite

hi Baccardisprite,

Thanks for your wonderful thread...

Would like to know ur views on.

I am a mech engg with 5 yrs of work ex in power sector( execution+project management ) with reliance infra. GMAT --will take on 3 oct ,11

> What specialisation i should be looking for...Manyof my peers/seniors said that after 5 yrs of workex one should not be going for general management programme...but one should be crystal clear about specialisation....Is it so....??...what programmees/colleges will u suggest with my job ex...I am targetting Insead/NUS/HKUST/ISB/XLRI GMP/Glakes/IE ?? is this the right choice

> I am interested in international buisness/SCM but have absolutely no exp in both. My knowledege is also limited in both this fields. Is this change in domain ( from construction/project management to international buisness ) welcomed by colleges.....how does one justify making a career in some domain in which one does not have exp in ??
When one starts in new field/domain do I need to start from bottom again something like MT inspite of having 5 yrs of workex.

> I saw colleges like Insead asking for international exp....will my 8 days of short stint in china be sufficient to justify that.....?? I saw/learnt a lot in this 8 days...
What should be reflected in essays so that my profile stands along with profiles having 2-5 yrs on international exp ??

Thanks in advance
mechanimal

I am not too familiar with the Australian system of work-permits for Masters Degree students / graduates. The Australian Economy is growing strongly, albeit dependent on mining, agriculture, natural resources and all the support infrastructure (including logistics) for these industries! So your career opportunities are likely to be largely in that space. Australia seems to have recently opened up to International Graduates studying Masters degrees in the major Australian Universities and may offer a pathway for you to study, then work and settle in Australia.

Note however, that you don't have much experience, so if / when you start on a job in Australia, you will start at the lowest levels.

The University of Melbourne (if that's what you refer to - http://www.unilmelb.edu.au) is a well known University and one of Australia's best - and to maximize your opportunities I would recommend going for a full on Masters Degree instead of just a Graduate Diploma.

A CFA is different from an Accounting Qualification, and if you want to go that route, please understand the career opportunities at your age would naturally be different, although there may be some convergence of skill and experience at a more senior stage (10-15 years later). If you are considering a CFA now, then makes more sense to consider a Master's Degree in Corporate Finance / Quantitative Finance instead of an accounting degree.

Hope that helps
All the best
Baccardisprite


Thanks for a reply buddy......
I checked in uni. Of melbourne site and they have good course like
Master in Finance..so,its a 2 year course....so,it will help me in future and help me to settle in australia?
And i want to make my career in accounts or finance field only.....
tht's why i want to go for CFA..
I done my b.com with accounts and finance as a specialization.....
and in worst case if i have to return back to india than this degree will help me to get a decent job in india?
i want to do masters from only top uni. So in australia i will apply only uni. Of melbourne....
If you know any good uni. For finance than plz tell me......
Thanks a lot....

Hi Baccardisprite!
Thanks to you for this wonderful chain, its of great help.

I did my Mineral Engineering from Indian School of Mines-Dhanbad (Institute under IIT-JEE). And I am working with Tata Steel in one of the Mining Division (Raw material div.) from past 2 years, in various capacities as Manager (shift operations/maintenace/logistics/safety/quality). I also did all my interns with Mining companies.

I have a good undergrad GPA and I was meritorious in school.
I don't want to make career in marketing, core finance or HR. I am sure about these things.
I want to make career in Management consultancy (Geographically I am not restricted to India). Because, firstly I like the work they do and also in recent years many metal-mining companies entered Indian market, as a result many management consulting houses like Mckinsey, PwC, Deloitte, KPMG etc started consulting to many of the metal-mining industry in India. So, I have scope there too after my PG. Earlier it was a primitive industry in India as I have learned.

1. I want to know, whether I should go for MBA?
2. If not MBA, then I want to know the prospects of MS or MSc (in strategic/operations/Logistics/energy economics/mineral & mining economics/international trade etc.) from UK or US with relevance to my background and my future prospects in Business Development in Management consultancy.

Thanks & Regards,
Pabla.

The program is hard to get into and you can assume that the Program Coordinator is someone with enough experience and knowledge to comment on your proposal. Build on the proposal and refine to effectively communicate it in your statement of purpose.

You seem passionate and determined. Act on both and you'll get there!

All the best
Baccardisprite


Hey!

Need some help again (and urgently as I have only a day or two to make a decision). Need your opinion on how much of an impact would a 3-4 year stint at a domain-focused consulting firm have on a TPP application compared to that in a firm which is essentially into information gathering and preliminary analysis (and strictly not into consulting). I am currently (for 1.5 years) at a firm that is a competitive intelligence player. I now have an opportunity to join an international consulting firm servicing top pharma and biotech companies. From what I gather, the work will be more strategic in nature and will thus entail components that I am not exposed to in my current job. Although there is a significant pay hike involved, the dominant criteria for me is how much of a difference will that make to my TPP application. I can relate both jobs to what I want to do post-TPP.

Regards

I am a mech engg with 5 yrs of work ex in power sector( execution+project management ) with reliance infra. GMAT --will take on 3 oct ,11

> What specialisation i should be looking for...Manyof my peers/seniors said that after 5 yrs of workex one should not be going for general management programme...but one should be crystal clear about specialisation....Is it so....??...what programmees/colleges will u suggest with my job ex...I am targetting Insead/NUS/HKUST/ISB/XLRI GMP/Glakes/IE ?? is this the right choice

> I am interested in international buisness/SCM but have absolutely no exp in both. My knowledege is also limited in both this fields. Is this change in domain ( from construction/project management to international buisness ) welcomed by colleges.....how does one justify making a career in some domain in which one does not have exp in ??
When one starts in new field/domain do I need to start from bottom again something like MT inspite of having 5 yrs of workex.

> I saw colleges like Insead asking for international exp....will my 8 days of short stint in china be sufficient to justify that.....?? I saw/learnt a lot in this 8 days... What should be reflected in essays so that my profile stands along with profiles having 2-5 yrs on international exp ??

Thanks in advance
mechanimal


Makings of a good professional profile! Prepare well for the GMAT and aim for a 730+ score line. First some generic feedback and advice.

International Business is a vague term. If you're working for Reliance Power implementing a project alongside JV partners from another country, then you're conducting international business. If you're implementing a project outside of India, that's international business. Supply Chain Management is different things to different industries. In certain industries, Supply Management / SCM covers the entire gamut of delivery of product or service from its raw materials / inputs right to the final customer / user (end-2-end). In some other companies / industries SCM is just logistics, a narrower definition.

Execution / Project Management experience in core, heavy or precision engineering / manufacturing / infrastructure (incl O&G;, Energy, Power, Civil infra) is valuable and globally relevant i.e as long as you continue to develop your skills (hard + softer skills as you rise up the ranks), you will always be in demand for employers and their advisors (i.e consultants). By the way, I assume your project management is in physical infra projects and not IT?!

In 5 years with Reliance Power you achieved success (consequently career progress) and and acquired a set of skills in your functional area (project management & execution), and hopefully have led people in small / large teams, thereby developing a level of leadership, client engagement and stakeholder management skills -- all of which corporate and consulting firms will seek first from your applications and when they interview you. As you have seen from my previous posts, this is your 75%. Your experience in Reliance Power is valuable, so whatever path you choose, make sure you ensure that path helps you transfer & apply the skills you have gained in these 5 years.

I would recommend you focus on a career in core / strategic operations meaning - strategic sourcing / procurement / manufacturing / planning / customer services / strategic supply & network development. These are areas where you will be able to transfer most if not all of your existing skills, and complement with education in an MBA with electives in finance, strategy and operations. Given what you have done, and referring above I don't think you need hugely specialist engineering education, but a top MBA with a strong set of targeted electives would help you. It would also open opportunities to both corporate as well as consulting roles.

My Indian picks would be - ISB & PGPX (IIM A/B/C)
My International picks - MIT-Sloan (LGO program), Ross-Michigan (MBA with the Tauber Institute)

4 top schools to whom you can write outstanding applications, and your referees can make a well argued case to the adcomm to admit you.

To your last point about starting at the bottom. Unless you make a complete change in function / industry (e.g move to marketing in an FMCG company) you're like to have your years of experience count for something, therefore will start at the Assistant Manager / Associate / Associate Manager level as a minimum, in a specific role or as part of a leadership / rotational program for post experienced / lateral hire / MBA candidates. Out of these programs (1-3 years in duration) you should become a 1st level manager / team leader. This is a standard approach. Something like a Reliance Accelerated Leadership Program (RALP) would be an ideal place for someone like you. Alternatively, you will enter at an Associate level (for MBAs) in a Consulting firm. In any case barring something like the FMCG example above, you will start well above the 1st level MT.

Prepare well and follow a diligent, well researched process, have patience, be disciplined, live moderately (save money), and you'll be fine.

All the best
Baccardisprite
Thanks for a reply buddy......
I checked in uni. Of melbourne site and they have good course like
Master in Finance..so,its a 2 year course....so,it will help me in future and help me to settle in australia?
And i want to make my career in accounts or finance field only.....
tht's why i want to go for CFA..
I done my b.com with accounts and finance as a specialization.....
and in worst case if i have to return back to india than this degree will help me to get a decent job in india?
i want to do masters from only top uni. So in australia i will apply only uni. Of melbourne.... If you know any good uni. For finance than plz tell me......
Thanks a lot....


If you have decided to study, work and settle in Australia - then University of Melbourne is an excellent choice. Others - Victoria University (Melbourne), University of New South Wales (Sydney), University of Technology Sydney (Sydney), University of Western Australia (Perth), Queensland University of Technology (Brisbane), Monash University. A good Masters Degree in Finance & Accounting in one of these Universities should open some doors for you in Australia.

All the best
Baccardisprite
Hey!

Need some help again (and urgently as I have only a day or two to make a decision). Need your opinion on how much of an impact would a 3-4 year stint at a domain-focused consulting firm have on a TPP application compared to that in a firm which is essentially into information gathering and preliminary analysis (and strictly not into consulting). I am currently (for 1.5 years) at a firm that is a competitive intelligence player. I now have an opportunity to join an international consulting firm servicing top pharma and biotech companies. From what I gather, the work will be more strategic in nature and will thus entail components that I am not exposed to in my current job. Although there is a significant pay hike involved, the dominant criteria for me is how much of a difference will that make to my TPP application. I can relate both jobs to what I want to do post-TPP.

Regards


Congratulations, I am sure you have worked hard to earn the right to make the above choice. Well done.

I'd go with the consulting role, as it's likely to be closer to the objective more than the intelligence & analysis role. The consulting role will have an impact on implementation and results. It will also have more stakeholder interaction and client impact, thereby widening long term career opportunities post your TPP career. Pharma & Biotech companies are firmly in the policy lens of governments and institutions, and your experience servicing the industry will make a tangible addition to your profile for TPP and after.

I would recommend the consulting role.

All the best
Baccardisprite


I did my Mineral Engineering from Indian School of Mines-Dhanbad (Institute under IIT-JEE). And I am working with Tata Steel in one of the Mining Division (Raw material div.) from past 2 years, in various capacities as Manager (shift operations/maintenace/logistics/safety/quality). I also did all my interns with Mining companies.

I have a good undergrad GPA and I was meritorious in school.
I don't want to make career in marketing, core finance or HR. I am sure about these things.
I want to make career in Management consultancy (Geographically I am not restricted to India). Because, firstly I like the work they do and also in recent years many metal-mining companies entered Indian market, as a result many management consulting houses like Mckinsey, PwC, Deloitte, KPMG etc started consulting to many of the metal-mining industry in India. So, I have scope there too after my PG. Earlier it was a primitive industry in India as I have learned.

1. I want to know, whether I should go for MBA?
2. If not MBA, then I want to know the prospects of MS or MSc (in strategic/operations/Logistics/energy economics/mineral & mining economics/international trade etc.) from UK or US with relevance to my background and my future prospects in Business Development in Management consultancy.

Thanks & Regards,
Pabla.


The makings of a good profile in core operations in a core engineering industry. Your skills in strategic sourcing / planning / network management gained now and in the next 2-3 years will serve you extremely well in industries / companies designing, engineering, manufacturing and delivering products (any shape, form, size and application).

Stay patient, and complete 5 years in Tata Steel. Go for a strong MBA/Techno-Management degree with electives in strategy, finance and operations. Go to a top university - my recommendations in the US would be MIT-Sloan's LGO Program, and Michigan Ross' MBA. Other US choices could be Berkeley Haas, Cornell and Kellogg (MMM) program. In India, ISB or the IIM A/B/C's respective PGPX programs (note the last mentioned require 6-7 years). Everyone of these programs will have the top strat consulting houses recruiting. You'll have no issues accessing the career you want, and the resources to train you to interview with consulting firms. You need to build your professional skill bank.

Give your GMAT 1.5-2 years from now, prepare well and try to score 720+. M.Sc Econ (US / UK) are not likely to add anything to your profile, at least not more than your practical skills & experience you're gaining with the world's most efficient steel company.

All the best
Baccardisprite
The makings of a good profile in core operations in a core engineering industry. Your skills in strategic sourcing / planning / network management gained now and in the next 2-3 years will serve you extremely well in industries / companies designing, engineering, manufacturing and delivering products (any shape, form, size and application).

Stay patient, and complete 5 years in Tata Steel. Go for a strong MBA/Techno-Management degree with electives in strategy, finance and operations. Go to a top university - my recommendations in the US would be MIT-Sloan's LGO Program, and Michigan Ross' MBA. Other US choices could be Berkeley Haas, Cornell and Kellogg (MMM) program. In India, ISB or the IIM A/B/C's respective PGPX programs (note the last mentioned require 6-7 years). Everyone of these programs will have the top strat consulting houses recruiting. You'll have no issues accessing the career you want, and the resources to train you to interview with consulting firms. You need to build your professional skill bank.

Give your GMAT 1.5-2 years from now, prepare well and try to score 720+. M.Sc Econ (US / UK) are not likely to add anything to your profile, at least not more than your practical skills & experience you're gaining with the world's most efficient steel company.

All the best
Baccardisprite

Thanks Baccardisprite!!
This is the most efficient and precise reply I ever had from someone. I would like to discuss 2 things.
1. MSc in logistic/transportation/infrastructure you discussed in very 1st post, Tu Deft Holland. would that be also irrelevant to do in my case?
2. 5 years is a long time for me, I may loose patience.

Thanks & Regards,
Pabla