NICL-AO Exam 2012

Insurance NICL Exam
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@pandit_pujari
@pandit_pujari said:
koi dikkat nahi yaar, pichhle marks se NICL waalon ko kuchh zyada lena dena nahi hai, main consideration is written marks of this test and your performance in interview. Even good candidates perform poorly and not so good candidates perform very good in interview (and that performance is only in the eyes of interview panel not absolute coz we all know we are GOOD!)
@pandit_pujari said:
nobody calculates exp. marks, interview panel awards marks after judging other factors
@ferocious002 said:
exactly ...i agreee wid u pandit ji .....one thing more ..if interview is of 50 marks(say) ..& if panel gives u 35 (out of 50) then everything is included in those 35 marks(exp, qualification, personality,attitude ,attire,etc,etc)......in case of a tie ...age... of candidate comes to scene......am i right pandit ji ..??
PLEASE Look at the underlined bold portion of this section, taken from NICL AO advertisement.
(A) Educational Qualifications:
The qualifications of Specialists & Generalists are as under:
Discipline
Proposed Nos. to be recruited
Group
Essential Qualification
Engineering
40
A1
Graduate degree of not less than 4 years in Automobile Engineering OR Graduate in Mechanical Engineering with PG Diploma (at least one Year duration) in Automobile Engineering.
10
A2
Graduate degree of not less than 4 years in Engineering in any of the following disciplines – (Mechanical, Electrical, Civil, & Chemical)
Health
B 1
Graduate in Medical Science (MBBS)
30
B 2
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery (B.A.M.S). Degree of not less than 5 ½ years including Internship from reputed Institutes under Central Council for Indian Medicine.
B 3
Bachelor of Homeopathic Medicine and Surgery (B.H.M.S). Degree of not less than 5 ½ years including Internship from reputed Institutes under Central Council for Homeopathy, India.
Finance
25
C
Chartered Accountant (ICAI) / M.Com / B.Com with MBA (Finance).
Actuarial
5
D
Graduate in Statistics/ Mathematics/ Actuarial Science & Pass in at least three papers of the examination conducted by Actuarial Society of India.
Legal
20
E
Graduate in Law.
Investigator
15
F
Graduate in any stream including Law with minimum one year experience in Investigational assignments with Central /State Police department / Central Bureau of Investigation/ National Investigation Agency/ other Central/State Govt. Investigation organization. (Candidates should posses aptitude for Investigational assignments & should have Investigative attributes)
Generalist
200
G
Graduates in any stream.
Total
345
The discipline wise numbers mentioned above are provisional/indicative. The Company reserves the right not to select any candidate from any of the disciplines & groups mentioned above. The discipline wise number indicated above may vary and or can be interchanged at any stage of recruitment process. A Candidate on selection can be posted anywhere in India. Note: Qualification: (a)For all the groups the minimum passing marks at Graduation or Post Graduation level shall be 55% (in case of SC/ST candidates 50%) (b) Qualifications mentioned above should be from any of the recognized Indian Universities duly approved by UGC or any of the recognized Indian Institutes duly approved by AICTE


This is the minimum passing marks. So, percentage matters in recruitment. And, they have to make sure themselves that the percentage mentioned by candidates in 'interview data sheet/ on-line application form' is correct.
Further, could you answer what the difference is in the quality of candidates- one obtained 54.9%, and another 55% at graduation/ post-graduation level? Most probably your answer would be- no difference. But to the recruiter candidates who got 54.9% are inferior and also they are not eligible, and the other is superior and also eligible.
That's the reason why they have to calculate the percentage of marks obtained by the candidates.
FURTHER IN INSURANCE SECTOR, INSURER DOESN'T PAY ANY CLAIMS OR UNDERWRITE ANY PROPOSAL WITHOUT HAVING ASSURED OF THEMSELVES- BY SURVEYOR/ MEDICAL REFEREE. HOW THEY COULD BELIEVE YOUR PERCENTAGE OF MARKS, UNLESS THEY CALCULATE IT THEMSELVES.
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@NeW-PaGal said:
@pandit_pujari
PLEASE Look at the underlined bold portion of this section, taken from NICL AO advertisement.
(A) Educational Qualifications:
The qualifications of Specialists & Generalists are as under:
Discipline
Proposed Nos. to be recruited
Group
Essential Qualification
Engineering
40
A1
Graduate degree of not less than 4 years in Automobile Engineering OR Graduate in Mechanical Engineering with PG Diploma (at least one Year duration) in Automobile Engineering.
10
A2
Graduate degree of not less than 4 years in Engineering in any of the following disciplines – (Mechanical, Electrical, Civil, & Chemical)
Health
B 1
Graduate in Medical Science (MBBS)
30
B 2
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery (B.A.M.S). Degree of not less than 5 ½ years including Internship from reputed Institutes under Central Council for Indian Medicine.
B 3
Bachelor of Homeopathic Medicine and Surgery (B.H.M.S). Degree of not less than 5 ½ years including Internship from reputed Institutes under Central Council for Homeopathy, India.
Finance
25
C
Chartered Accountant (ICAI) / M.Com / B.Com with MBA (Finance).
Actuarial
5
D
Graduate in Statistics/ Mathematics/ Actuarial Science & Pass in at least three papers of the examination conducted by Actuarial Society of India.
Legal
20
E
Graduate in Law.
Investigator
15
F
Graduate in any stream including Law with minimum one year experience in Investigational assignments with Central /State Police department / Central Bureau of Investigation/ National Investigation Agency/ other Central/State Govt. Investigation organization. (Candidates should posses aptitude for Investigational assignments & should have Investigative attributes)
Generalist
200
G
Graduates in any stream.
Total
345
The discipline wise numbers mentioned above are provisional/indicative. The Company reserves the right not to select any candidate from any of the disciplines & groups mentioned above. The discipline wise number indicated above may vary and or can be interchanged at any stage of recruitment process. A Candidate on selection can be posted anywhere in India. Note: Qualification: (a)For all the groups the minimum passing marks at Graduation or Post Graduation level shall be 55% (in case of SC/ST candidates 50%) (b) Qualifications mentioned above should be from any of the recognized Indian Universities duly approved by UGC or any of the recognized Indian Institutes duly approved by AICTE
This is the minimum passing marks. So, percentage matters in recruitment. And, they have to make sure themselves that the percentage mentioned by candidates in 'interview data sheet/ on-line application form' is correct.
Further, could you answer what the difference is in the quality of candidates- one obtained 54.9%, and another 55% at graduation/ post-graduation level? Most probably your answer would be- no difference. But to the recruiter candidates who got 54.9% are inferior and also they are not eligible, and the other is superior and also eligible.
That's the reason why they have to calculate the percentage of marks obtained by the candidates.
FURTHER IN INSURANCE SECTOR, INSURER DOESN'T PAY ANY CLAIMS OR UNDERWRITE ANY PROPOSAL WITHOUT HAVING ASSURED OF THEMSELVES- BY SURVEYOR/ MEDICAL REFEREE. HOW THEY COULD BELIEVE YOUR PERCENTAGE OF MARKS, UNLESS THEY CALCULATE IT THEMSELVES.
the calculation that you are mentioning is just verification of grad marks which every employer does at the document verification stage or after that. But rest assured that there is no provision at least in NICL to give you extra marks in the final list just based on your previous marks. That is because it is assumed that the interview panel will be considering your past performance in the back of their head and that will ALSO be a factor while awarding interview marks. However, that is not the ONLY factor. Interviews are basically meant for judging your personality, how have been your earlier life, how will you be beneficial to the company in future, your logical disposition and mannerisms.
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@NeW-PaGal said:@pandit_pujari

The discipline wise numbers mentioned above are provisional/indicative. The Company reserves the right not to select any candidate from any of the disciplines & groups mentioned above. The discipline wise number indicated above may vary and or can be interchanged at any stage of recruitment process. A Candidate on selection can be posted anywhere in India. Note: Qualification: (a)For all the groups the minimum passing marks at Graduation or Post Graduation level shall be 55% (in case of SC/ST candidates 50%) (b) Qualifications mentioned above should be from any of the recognized Indian Universities duly approved by UGC or any of the recognized Indian Institutes duly approved by AICTE
This is the minimum passing marks. So, percentage matters in recruitment. And, they have to make sure themselves that the percentage mentioned by candidates in 'interview data sheet/ on-line application form' is correct.
Further, could you answer what the difference is in the quality of candidates- one obtained 54.9%, and another 55% at graduation/ post-graduation level? Most probably your answer would be- no difference. But to the recruiter candidates who got 54.9% are inferior and also they are not eligible, and the other is superior and also eligible.
That's the reason why they have to calculate the percentage of marks obtained by the candidates.
FURTHER IN INSURANCE SECTOR, INSURER DOESN €™T PAY ANY CLAIMS OR UNDERWRITE ANY PROPOSAL WITHOUT HAVING ASSURED OF THEMSELVES- BY SURVEYOR/ MEDICAL REFEREE. HOW THEY COULD BELIEVE YOUR PERCENTAGE OF MARKS, UNLESS THEY CALCULATE IT THEMSELVES.
Dude!!
What non sense are you talking about!!
No difference between 54.9 and 55?

Dude the difference is PASSING or FAILING. Crossed the line or not.

You would come up someday saying what's the difference between a guy passing just on the line ( say 40) and a guy who could not ( say 39.9).
The succinct is everything has to be logical as we live in a society dominated by rules, complication etc etc.

Now do not jump on me by asking " as if marks are not important" because I never meant that.



(a)For all the groups the minimum passing marks at Graduation or Post Graduation level shall be 55% (in case of SC/ST candidates 50%)

'''''''''This is the minimum passing marks. So, percentage matters in recruitment''''''''''

Sorry boss, I, at the least, could not get the logic.


They reason why they calculate our percentage is to see who has has the highest percentage of all but to make sure everyone called or whoever taken the interview meets the LINE. AND NOTHING LESS and NOTHING MORE.


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** is NOT to see

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@pandit_pujari said:
the calculation that you are mentioning is just verification of grad marks which every employer does at the document verification stage or after that. But rest assured that there is no provision at least in NICL to give you extra marks in the final list just based on your previous marks. That is because it is assumed that the interview panel will be considering your past performance in the back of their head and that will ALSO be a factor while awarding interview marks. However, that is not the ONLY factor. Interviews are basically meant for judging your personality, how have been your earlier life, how will you be beneficial to the company in future, your logical disposition and mannerisms.
@OmegaMutant said:
Dude!! What non sense are you talking about!! No difference between 54.9 and 55?Dude the difference is PASSING or FAILING. Crossed the line or not.You would come up someday saying what's the difference between a guy passing just on the line ( say 40) and a guy who could not ( say 39.9). The succinct is everything has to be logical as we live in a society dominated by rules, complication etc etc.Now do not jump on me by asking " as if marks are not important" because I never meant that.
(a)For all the groups the minimum passing marks at Graduation or Post Graduation level shall be 55% (in case of SC/ST candidates 50%)
'''''''''This is the minimum passing marks. So, percentage matters in recruitment''''''''''Sorry boss, I, at the least, could not get the logic.They reason why they calculate our percentage is to see who has has the highest percentage of all but to make sure everyone called or whoever taken the interview meets the LINE. AND NOTHING LESS and NOTHING MORE.
@OmegaMutant said:
** is NOT to see
YOU MEAN EVERYBODY ARE GOING TO BE SELECTED, BECAUSE EVERYBODY MUST HAVE PASSED THE INTERVIEW, MUST HAVE GOT 55% MARKS IN GRADUATION/ POST GRADUATION.
AM I RIGHT?
SO, CONGRATULATIONS!
THANK YOU.
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@NeW-PaGal
Dude, your logic is fractional or has been.
Make it absolute. You'll know what I mean.

And secondly.
Make sure whether you are asking me a question or making a point.
''' AM I RIGHT + a question mark.
AND '' So, congratulations''


Thirdly.
Don't just hover around this 55% marks thing.
Read what Pandit ji quoted. And if read. Read it again.
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kaya bhyi log subhe argu kar rahe ho result nhe a raha ..pehle h dimag k danhi ho chuka hain ..chill maro these things dnt matter when ever things is done dona done.....its just we have nt seen our faith ...bas wait watch and prey

jaaa mataa diiiii
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@NeW-PaGal said:
YOU MEAN EVERYBODY ARE GOING TO BE SELECTED, BECAUSE EVERYBODY MUST HAVE PASSED THE INTERVIEW, MUST HAVE GOT 55% MARKS IN GRADUATION/ POST GRADUATION.
AM I RIGHT?
SO, CONGRATULATIONS!
THANK YOU.
Sorry for Grammatical mistake in the above context. Read 'is' in place of 'are' in the above context.
THANKING YOU
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@OmegaMutant said:
@NeW-PaGal Dude, your logic is fractional or has been. Make it absolute. You'll know what I mean.And secondly. Make sure whether you are asking me a question or making a point. ''' AM I RIGHT + a question mark. AND '' So, congratulations''Thirdly. Don't just hover around this 55% marks thing. Read what Pandit ji quoted. And if read. Read it again.
@prabhjotoicl said:
kaya bhyi log subhe argu kar rahe ho result nhe a raha ..pehle h dimag k danhi ho chuka hain ..chill maro these things dnt matter when ever things is done dona done.....its just we have nt seen our faith ...bas wait watch and prey
jaaa mataa diiiii
I am also fed up with these arguments. So I don't want to give any new arguments on this topic.
Just wait for the result, and see who is right.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
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@prabhjotoicl jai mata di...

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@NeW-PaGal said:
@pandit_pujari
PLEASE Look at the underlined bold portion of this section, taken from NICL AO advertisement.
(A) Educational Qualifications:
The qualifications of Specialists & Generalists are as under:
Discipline
Proposed Nos. to be recruited
Group
Essential Qualification
Engineering
40
A1
Graduate degree of not less than 4 years in Automobile Engineering OR Graduate in Mechanical Engineering with PG Diploma (at least one Year duration) in Automobile Engineering.
10
A2
Graduate degree of not less than 4 years in Engineering in any of the following disciplines – (Mechanical, Electrical, Civil, & Chemical)
Health
B 1
Graduate in Medical Science (MBBS)
30
B 2
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery (B.A.M.S). Degree of not less than 5 ½ years including Internship from reputed Institutes under Central Council for Indian Medicine.
B 3
Bachelor of Homeopathic Medicine and Surgery (B.H.M.S). Degree of not less than 5 ½ years including Internship from reputed Institutes under Central Council for Homeopathy, India.
Finance
25
C
Chartered Accountant (ICAI) / M.Com / B.Com with MBA (Finance).
Actuarial
5
D
Graduate in Statistics/ Mathematics/ Actuarial Science & Pass in at least three papers of the examination conducted by Actuarial Society of India.
Legal
20
E
Graduate in Law.
Investigator
15
F
Graduate in any stream including Law with minimum one year experience in Investigational assignments with Central /State Police department / Central Bureau of Investigation/ National Investigation Agency/ other Central/State Govt. Investigation organization. (Candidates should posses aptitude for Investigational assignments & should have Investigative attributes)
Generalist
200
G
Graduates in any stream.
Total
345
The discipline wise numbers mentioned above are provisional/indicative. The Company reserves the right not to select any candidate from any of the disciplines & groups mentioned above. The discipline wise number indicated above may vary and or can be interchanged at any stage of recruitment process. A Candidate on selection can be posted anywhere in India. Note: Qualification: (a)For all the groups the minimum passing marks at Graduation or Post Graduation level shall be 55% (in case of SC/ST candidates 50%) (b) Qualifications mentioned above should be from any of the recognized Indian Universities duly approved by UGC or any of the recognized Indian Institutes duly approved by AICTE
This is the minimum passing marks. So, percentage matters in recruitment. And, they have to make sure themselves that the percentage mentioned by candidates in 'interview data sheet/ on-line application form' is correct.
Further, could you answer what the difference is in the quality of candidates- one obtained 54.9%, and another 55% at graduation/ post-graduation level? Most probably your answer would be- no difference. But to the recruiter candidates who got 54.9% are inferior and also they are not eligible, and the other is superior and also eligible.
That's the reason why they have to calculate the percentage of marks obtained by the candidates.
FURTHER IN INSURANCE SECTOR, INSURER DOESN'T PAY ANY CLAIMS OR UNDERWRITE ANY PROPOSAL WITHOUT HAVING ASSURED OF THEMSELVES- BY SURVEYOR/ MEDICAL REFEREE. HOW THEY COULD BELIEVE YOUR PERCENTAGE OF MARKS, UNLESS THEY CALCULATE IT THEMSELVES.
Friend i do support u. U r very much Right. 54.9% is not a Eligible Candidate n if by any chance candidate gave wrong information in online form n during Interview but at the time of Joining his all marksheets will be checked n % will be calculated, so finally he will not be allowed to join NICL. Candidates who are in any doubt can ask HR Dept. of NICL or File an RTI to confirm d same. There will be atleast 5% candidates who might hv given wrong information. So there seats will be give to candidates from Waiting List.
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Hey guys i must tell u, I forgot to put a photocopy of my exprience from ICICI lombard as Medical Consultant, it came to my notice when the lady was checking my documents at the interview center, she asked me that why i didn't put that, I said i forgot, she said u must put this in documents, it will surely help in selection, so she arranged me a photocopy of that by asking the peon.


Thanks to Her....
fingered crossed let see

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55% in honours or honours and pass both taken together!!

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guys i have one query....i have appeared for group E -accounts...the qualification required was B.com degree with minimum 60%....Does this 60% mean in hours i.e out of 800 or honours + pass + eng + hindi +environment all together!!!!kindly tell
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i had appeared for OICL

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@vkhanna
@vkhanna said:
55% in honours or honours and pass both taken together!!
They hadn't mentioned that in the recruitment advertisement; but actually marks in 'aggregate' are considered.
Look below the bold-underlined part of 'LIC advertisement for the recruitment of AAO 2010'
4. Eligibility Conditions as on 1
st
November, 2010 shall be as under :
(i) Age Minimum Age shall be 21 years (completed) as on 1
st
November,
2010. Maximum age shall be 30 years. Relaxations in upper age
limit for SC/ST/OBC/ECO/SSRCO/Persons with
Disabilities/Confirmed LIC employees shall be as under : SC/ST 5 Years
OBC 3 Years
PH(Gen) 10 Years
PH(SC/ST) 15 Years
PH(OBC) 13 Years
ECO/SSRCO (GEN) 5 years
ECO/SSRCO (SC/ST) 10 Years
ECO/SSRCO (OBC) 8 Years
Confirmed LIC employees Further Relaxation of 5
years
(ii)
Qualification AAO(Generalist) Bachelor/Master창€™s Degree from a
recognized Indian University (under
UGC) with a minimum of 55% marks in
the aggregate in either of the Degrees
which is relaxable to 45% in case of
SC/ST candidates. If any University
awards grades instead of marks,
applicants should clearly mention the
numerical equivalent of the grades in
terms of aggregate marks and then write
percentage scored out of aggregate
marks.
AAO (Chartered
Accountant)
An Associate Member of the Institute of
Chartered Accountants of India (ICAI)
AAO(Company
Secretary)
A Member of the Institute of Company
Secretaries of India (ICSI)
AAO (Legal) LL.B. with a minimum of 50% marks in
the aggregate and minimum three years
experience at the Bar.
(iii) The percentage marks shall be arrived at by dividing the marks obtained by the
candidate in all the subjects by the aggregate marks irrespective of
honors/optional subject, if any, This will be applicable for those Universities also
where Grade is decided on the basis of Honors Marks Only.


But NICL hadn't mentioned that in their advertisement, so NICL has no legal right to restrict somebody's candidature if he or she hasn't got 55% marks in aggregate. And, If they(NICL) do so, you can sue them.
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Neither did OICL mention anything as such and all the candidates having 60% or above in honours were allowed to sit for the interview......

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The percentage marks shall be arrived at by dividing the marks obtained by the
candidate in all the subjects by the aggregate marks irrespective of
honors/optional subject, if any, This will be applicable for those Universities also
where Grade is decided on the basis of Honors Marks Only.

THIS LINE IS NOT THERE IN OICL AD.....

So can i presume that all is well!!!
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@vkhanna
@vkhanna said:
guys i have one query....i have appeared for group E -accounts...the qualification required was B.com degree with minimum 60%....Does this 60% mean in hours i.e out of 800 or honours + pass + eng + hindi +environment all together!!!!kindly tell
@vkhanna said:
i had appeared for OICL
But in OICL, they will only consider 'aggregate' marks. See below the portion of 'OICL AO recruitment advertisement 2011' for group E:
Group E
Code No. 05
(Accounts)
ACS / ACWA / ACA or B.Com degree with minimum 60% OR M.Com. with
minimum 55% marks in aggregate from a recognized university.
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ok....and what about if a candidate has passed CA in nov 2011 term???is he eligible!!!