[Official] 2012-2014 TAPMI Converts

getnikhil23 · May 19, 2012, 8:37pm

Well my friend, a good analysis indeed but you are not referring to whole fact.

60% and 40% ratio which you are referring is only for STAGE - 1 that is GD.
And after that the second stage, the consolidated score of GD + CAT is taken. But after that no one knows the final proportions of weightage.
So the formula that admissions department is referring is 100% true. Viraj must have told you the weightage for STAGE - 1.

Now talking about people less that 70 in our batch:
Take one example,
Mr X with good profile say 7 out of 10
and Mr Y again 8 out of 10 on profile.
Mr Z very niche profile with 9.5 out of 10

But Mr. X has 95%tile and Mr. Y has 67%time. whereas Mr Z has 67%tile.

Tell me, a lilbit difference in profile, Can it beat huge difference in CAT score?
So when profile is not that strong, you cannot convert at This year one guys converted at some 70%tile in first list, reason very niche profile. And TAPMI is trying to bring diversity in batch by allowing people with low profile.
Now there are many Mr X applying to TAPMI. There are many Mr Ys applying to TAPMI but there are less Mr Zs applying to TAPMI (e.g. obviously there cannot be many aeronautical engineer with 3 years work ex in the same area)
Now if someone has IT profile, less %tile and some sports activity. Then such profiles are high so at that time CAT becomes deciding factor. If you are damn sure about your profile and can rely on it then and then you can convert with your profile. Else you need support of CAT/XAT score also.

So in short, if you are Mr. Z then and then you can convert at
I am clarifying this so that everyone can understand the complexity of admissions process and next batch can also refer to this post.

Thank You!

I was indeed talking about the final admission weightage and not stage one elimination round of GD. I too attended the GDPI and know about the 60:40 weightage to pass on to next round (65 outta 100 we need to score). First of all that itself is not good, is it some sort of reality show to have an elimination or what? Since it is @ the college's discretion, I aint question on that part. Is any other college having such a weird admission process?

Now coming to the profile thing, Have you heard of SP Jain, Mumbai? The prestigious collges has clearly mentioned about the profile base call for GDPI round and the admission process. If my friend' profile was pretty ordinary like mine and if TAPMI was looking for niche profile, why was the GDPI call given? TAPMI expected her profile to change into a niche one, in a couple of months is it? So, I am not buying what ever you said. Its again misleading and a tactic like I said, TAPMI to attract more applicants.

khanjan · May 19, 2012, 8:44pm

Thank You!

I was indeed talking about the final admission weightage and not stage one elimination round of GD. I too attended the GDPI and know about the 60:40 weightage to pass on to next round (65 outta 100 we need to score). First of all that itself is not good, is it some sort of reality show to have an elimination or what? Since it is @ the college's discretion, I aint question on that part. Is any other college having such a weird admission process?

Now coming to the profile thing, Have you heard of SP Jain, Mumbai? The prestigious collges has clearly mentioned about the profile base call for GDPI round and the admission process. If my friend' profile was pretty ordinary like mine and if TAPMI was looking for niche profile, why was the GDPI call given? TAPMI expected her profile to change into a niche one, in a couple of months is it? So, I am not buying what ever you said. Its again misleading and a tactic like I said, TAPMI to attract more applicants.

I am not trying to sell it to you.
I clarified what is the fact. I know about SP Jain, no doubt about that.
But sometimes, colleges have some profiles in mind. So May be TAPMI was not in that profile requirement. It doesn;t mean that TAPMI is saying that the person is not worth. Believe me, admissions are also based on the requirements of the companies on campus. All these things has to be understood and no one tells it.
So I or TAPMI is not suggesting that the profile was not good, what probably is being suggested is that TAPMI do not have space for that particular profile.
And at the end of the day, it is complex and me or you cannot clearly say what happens in the admissions.

Whether to take this explanation or not is completely your discretion.

By the way, nice analysis.. 😃

getnikhil23 · May 19, 2012, 8:59pm

I am not trying to sell it to you.
I clarified what is the fact. I know about SP Jain, no doubt about that.
But sometimes, colleges have some profiles in mind. So May be TAPMI was not in that profile requirement. It doesn;t mean that TAPMI is saying that the person is not worth. Believe me, admissions are also based on the requirements of the companies on campus. All these things has to be understood and no one tells it.
So I or TAPMI is not suggesting that the profile was not good, what probably is being suggested is that TAPMI do not have space for that particular profile.
And at the end of the day, it is complex and me or you cannot clearly say what happens in the admissions.

Whether to take this explanation or not is completely your discretion.

By the way, nice analysis.. :)

I understand your helplessness w.r.t admission process. :)
So, chill...and thanks for the compliments!

hitmancode69 · May 19, 2012, 11:51pm

I understand your helplessness w.r.t admission process. :)
So, chill...and thanks for the compliments!

Well..it was nice to read the opinions from both the sides, but don't you guys thinks the opinions from both the sides are actually obvious! Yes, it's surely tactical by TAPMI, who doesn't want to earn more. What was the basic reason behind ur exit from TAPMI and taking up with XIMB or now with some IIM, I think all of them have comparable educational standards but then you too want to earn more. It's fine by paying you just earn yourself a chance to appear fr GDs..isn't that good enough? Your money doesn't get wasted. Most of the institutes who don't follow this weird process don't even wish to waste their time with lower percentilers. And many institutes including IIMs have something weird with them. Can you summon anyone from old IIMs and ask them the reason for rage against engineers? Giving stupid weightage to school academics and then they talk about Extra curriculars as well, giving unexplained weightage to non-engineers and women. I feel pity for male, general engineers. India is a mad rush rat race country my friend. No place for emotions when it comes to business. See, I don't even understand point of posting average salaries, if they really don't want students who're more concerned about salaries they will get. At most of the institutes whose average salaries hover around 8ish end up paying hefty fee for more than 12L and seeing the educational loan's rates (That's somehow almost double then a car loan in a country where FM and PM talks about promoting education and reducing industrial waste), you end up getting around 50-55k per month minus 20K emi..thats sums up roghly around 30ish per month. And most of the MNCs who recruit have fixed standards of increment (for those who think about growth) thats roughly around 5-10% of basic salary. But we still are after it, its our choice we can't blame anyone if we feel conned. It's business mu friend its much more than your maths and then you can imagine. Grab a beer and relax.

hitmancode69 · May 19, 2012, 11:54pm

I understand your helplessness w.r.t admission process. :)
So, chill...and thanks for the compliments!

Well..it was nice to read the opinions from both the sides, but don't you guys thinks the opinions from both the sides are actually obvious! Yes, it's surely tactical by TAPMI, who doesn't want to earn more. What was the basic reason behind ur exit from TAPMI and taking up with XIMB or now with some IIM, I think all of them have comparable educational standards but then you too want to earn more. It's fine by paying you just earn yourself a chance to appear fr GDs..isn't that good enough? Your money doesn't get wasted. Most of the institutes who don't follow this weird process don't even wish to waste their time with lower percentilers. And many institutes including IIMs have something weird with them. Can you summon anyone from old IIMs and ask them the reason for rage against engineers? Giving stupid weightage to school academics and then they talk about Extra curriculars as well, giving unexplained weightage to non-engineers and women. I feel pity for male, general engineers. India is a mad rush rat race country my friend. No place for emotions when it comes to business. See, I don't even understand point of posting average salaries, if they really don't want students who're more concerned about salaries they will get. At most of the institutes whose average salaries hover around 8ish end up paying hefty fee for more than 12L and seeing the educational loan's rates (That's somehow almost double then a car loan in a country where FM and PM talks about promoting education and reducing industrial waste), you end up getting around 50-55k per month minus 20K emi..thats sums up roghly around 30ish per month. And most of the MNCs who recruit have fixed standards of increment (for those who think about growth) thats roughly around 5-10% of basic salary. But we still are after it, its our choice we can't blame anyone if we feel conned. It's business mu friend its much more than your maths and then you can imagine. Grab a beer and relax. And Nikhil one thing for you Dude, you must try to shy away taking names of anyone on a public forum. That's quite unprofessional and not expected from someone having 34+ months experience and exceptional candidate tag and willing join IIMs.

hitmancode69 · May 19, 2012, 11:55pm

I understand your helplessness w.r.t admission process. :)
So, chill...and thanks for the compliments!

Well..it was nice to read the opinions from both the sides, but don't you guys think the opinions from both the sides are actually obvious! Yes, it's surely tactical by TAPMI, who doesn't want to earn more. What was the basic reason behind ur exit from TAPMI and taking up with XIMB or now with some IIM, I think all of them have comparable educational standards but then you too want to earn more. It's fine by paying you just earn yourself a chance to appear fr GDs..isn't that good enough? Your money doesn't get wasted. Most of the institutes who don't follow this weird process don't even wish to waste their time with lower percentilers. And many institutes including IIMs have something weird with them. Can you summon anyone from old IIMs and ask them the reason for rage against engineers? Giving stupid weightage to school academics and then they talk about Extra curriculars as well, giving unexplained weightage to non-engineers and women. I feel pity for male, general engineers. India is a mad rush rat race country my friend. No place for emotions when it comes to business. See, I don't even understand point of posting average salaries, if they really don't want students who're more concerned about salaries they will get. At most of the institutes whose average salaries hover around 8ish end up paying hefty fee for more than 12L and seeing the educational loan's rates (That's somehow almost double then a car loan in a country where FM and PM talks about promoting education and reducing industrial waste), you end up getting around 50-55k per month minus 20K emi..thats sums up roghly around 30ish per month. And most of the MNCs who recruit have fixed standards of increment (for those who think about growth) thats roughly around 5-10% of basic salary. But we still are after it, its our choice we can't blame anyone if we feel conned. It's business mu friend its much more than your maths and then you can imagine. Grab a beer and relax. And Nikhil one thing for you Dude, you must try to shy away taking names of anyone on a public forum. That's quite unprofessional and not expected from someone having 34+ months experience and exceptional candidate tag and willing join IIMs.

hashk · May 20, 2012, 1:21am

first of all congo 2 all dos who made it in d Final List.., n 4 dos who cud Nt.., Life Doesn't End here.., All d Best 4 ur Future Endeavors..!! :)

Aftr reading previous posts., i thot i must share my exprnce also..
i hd 93.6%ile in CAT.., 88+ %age in 10th n 12th.. n yeah.., m a Male Engineer(IIM'z fav. category)
aftr cmplting Engineering., i hv been in my Family Business since july'10..

on d day of encounter.., performed well in GD.., so got thru frm 1st round..
nw in PI.., i ws second last in my group.. before me.., panel ws taking around 20 mins 4 aspirant's pi.. so I ws happie dat yeah., dey r giving enough time to evaluate..

in my turn.., panel started wid sm basic ques like whr i am frm n grad degree n all dat..
process ws going smooth until i told dem dat i hv been in my family biz for last 20 months n wud like to join d same aftr my post-graduation.. n gave sm reasons 2 do so.. den dey asked me sm very basic que regarding biz process..
den dey discontinued wid d same n asked me 2 face an extempore.. afaik.., i delivered well..
aftr dat 1 of panelists asked me wedr i hd any que., so i asked dem abt clg's linkup wid VC.. n he did explain me very well..

dats it.. he said.., THANK YOU.. n i ws in a big shock.., coz i ws out of d room in 7-8 mins..!!
@ dat pt of time only., i knew it.., wedr i ll get in2 first list or i m straight out of d race..!!

coz sm hw i felt dat., it dint go well coz i said i ll cm back 2 biz again aftr study..
I may b wrong., bt in 1 corner of d mind der cms a thot dat TAPMI prob wanted students who ll mk it 100% placement.. each n evry 1 getting selected in a gud company @ d end of 2 years..

i wud like to knw d studnts having dis kinda profile n getting selected 4 TAPMI..
probably i ll able 2 knw., wht actually went wrong..??..!!! 😃

getnikhil23 · May 20, 2012, 5:41am

hitmancode69 Says
Well..it was nice to read the opinions from both the sides, but don't you guys think the opinions from both the sides are actually obvious! Yes, it's surely tactical by TAPMI, who doesn't want to earn more. What was the basic reason behind ur exit from TAPMI and taking up with XIMB or now with some IIM, I think all of them have comparable educational standards but then you too want to earn more. It's fine by paying you just earn yourself a chance to appear fr GDs..isn't that good enough? Your money doesn't get wasted. Most of the institutes who don't follow this weird process don't even wish to waste their time with lower percentilers. And many institutes including IIMs have something weird with them. Can you summon anyone from old IIMs and ask them the reason for rage against engineers? Giving stupid weightage to school academics and then they talk about Extra curriculars as well, giving unexplained weightage to non-engineers and women. I feel pity for male, general engineers. India is a mad rush rat race country my friend. No place for emotions when it comes to business. See, I don't even understand point of posting average salaries, if they really don't want students who're more concerned about salaries they will get. At most of the institutes whose average salaries hover around 8ish end up paying hefty fee for more than 12L and seeing the educational loan's rates (That's somehow almost double then a car loan in a country where FM and PM talks about promoting education and reducing industrial waste), you end up getting around 50-55k per month minus 20K emi..thats sums up roghly around 30ish per month. And most of the MNCs who recruit have fixed standards of increment (for those who think about growth) thats roughly around 5-10% of basic salary. But we still are after it, its our choice we can't blame anyone if we feel conned. It's business mu friend its much more than your maths and then you can imagine. Grab a beer and relax. And Nikhil one thing for you Dude, you must try to shy away taking names of anyone on a public forum. That's quite unprofessional and not expected from someone having 34+ months experience and exceptional candidate tag and willing join IIMs.

Are you saying I acted unprofessionally? When I used the TAPMI student coordinator's name, is it? I dint sling mud at him, so I felt that was pretty much acceptable.
And you asked me a couple of questions, about why I am joining IIM from TAPMI?

Why are you lingering in this forum, because you are a TAPMI-an or an aspirant (trying to maybe please the seniors). I know the thought process behind your reasoning.
You said about TAPMI giving a chance to everyone, for attending GD. What purpose does a GD alone serve? A feeling of gratitude that one was able to attend TAPMI's admission process, is it? Oh man, ppl come for admissions and not for some GD practice. If not the case, they could have joined some coaching classes for 2.5k and got even better practice.
Now, will you join TAPMI if u have an IIM or any creamy B School (please, TAPMI is not one of them) convert? Answer is plain NO. 😃 So, relax w.r.t that part of reasoning, and you saying let TAPMI earn this way by inviting more application by such kinda wrong notions. This is plain fraud and you are comparing that to me choosing better colleges than TAPMI. One word I have for you, Ridiculous!

getnikhil23 · May 20, 2012, 5:47am

first of all congo 2 all dos who made it in d Final List.., n 4 dos who cud Nt.., Life Doesn't End here.., All d Best 4 ur Future Endeavors..!! :)

Aftr reading previous posts., i thot i must share my exprnce also..
i hd 93.6%ile in CAT.., 88+ %age in 10th n 12th.. n yeah.., m a Male Engineer(IIM'z fav. category)
aftr cmplting Engineering., i hv been in my Family Business since july'10..

on d day of encounter.., performed well in GD.., so got thru frm 1st round..
nw in PI.., i ws second last in my group.. before me.., panel ws taking around 20 mins 4 aspirant's pi.. so I ws happie dat yeah., dey r giving enough time to evaluate..

in my turn.., panel started wid sm basic ques like whr i am frm n grad degree n all dat..
process ws going smooth until i told dem dat i hv been in my family biz for last 20 months n wud like to join d same aftr my post-graduation.. n gave sm reasons 2 do so.. den dey asked me sm very basic que regarding biz process..
den dey discontinued wid d same n asked me 2 face an extempore.. afaik.., i delivered well..
aftr dat 1 of panelists asked me wedr i hd any que., so i asked dem abt clg's linkup wid VC.. n he did explain me very well..

dats it.. he said.., THANK YOU.. n i ws in a big shock.., coz i ws out of d room in 7-8 mins..!!
@ dat pt of time only., i knew it.., wedr i ll get in2 first list or i m straight out of d race..!!

coz sm hw i felt dat., it dint go well coz i said i ll cm back 2 biz again aftr study..
I may b wrong., bt in 1 corner of d mind der cms a thot dat TAPMI prob wanted students who ll mk it 100% placement.. each n evry 1 getting selected in a gud company @ d end of 2 years..

i wud like to knw d studnts having dis kinda profile n getting selected 4 TAPMI..
probably i ll able 2 knw., wht actually went wrong..??..!!! :)

Hi,
Its nice that people are posting their thoughts on the admission process. I felt each and every B school would love to have a few entrepreneurs in their batch. May be it was right from TAPMI's side, not to select you. But I feel you owe a clarification at least so that you ll ve peace of mind.

P.S: I am not here to sling mud @ TAPMI, because 2 years back (CAT2009) when I had 90%ile, I still applied to TAPMI. So I was always an aspirant of TAPMI, and looked upto this college for an MBA seat. So, I have regards for this college, just that it is diminishing, each day.

khanjan · May 20, 2012, 9:17am

Hi,
Its nice that people are posting there thoughts on the admission process. I felt each and every B school would love to have a few entrepreneurs in their batch. May be it was right from TAPMI's side, not to select you. But I feel you owe a clarification at least so that you ll ve peace of mind.

P.S: I am not here to sling mud @ TAPMI, because 2 years back (CAT2009) when I had 90%ile, I still applied to TAPMI. So I was always an aspirant of TAPMI, and looked upto this college for an MBA seat. So, I have regards for this college, just that it is diminishing, each day.

Thank you for your feedback. We will suggest these things to our admissions department for next year.

Now, lets get back to business of solving queries? And allow us to help who are interested in taking admissions? Who wants to pay fees and have some doubts regarding their career?

Thank you 😃

nprado · May 20, 2012, 1:30pm

Hi All,

I am posting this message for the aspirants of TAPMI who will be referring this thread, be it for the year of 2012 or the coming years.

Let me give a brief introduction of myself:

Xth : 90.20
XIIth: 84.60
BTech: 6.73(CGPA)
Work Experience: 34 Months (TCS)
CAT 2011: OA 98.xx (QA: 97.xx & VA: 97.xx)
XAT 2012: OA 95.xx (QA: 93.xx; VA: 90.xx; DM:82.xx)
Converts: IIM-Ro,U,XIMB,IMT-G,TAPMI etc...

I need to convey a few things to fellow Puys:

My TAPMI admission process was very good with an decent GD and an awesome PI (knew I got spot admission from the interviewer's response). As expected I was given an offer letter within 5 days with a term coined by TAPMI as "exceptional candidate". I accepted the offer with glee as that was my first convert. A couple of days back I got IMT-G too which I seriously considered, but did not go for as I felt there is not much of a difference btw the two colleges.

Later I cancelled my admission @ TAPMI as I got XIMB and eventually IIMs. The issue w.r.t TAPMI that I have to convey is regarding my friend, who also applied TAPMI and got GDPI call with a %ile of 68.xx. I know many of guys would have got calls from TAPMI with similar scores or even lower. There is one thing that you all need to know and keep in mind from here on.

The weightage for CAT/XAT score w.r.t admissions is not something like 30% or some weird formula which people from TAPMI are spreading. The students in admissions commitee are giving a wrong notion or rather a hope that all of you guys are having a chance, a mathematical chance as they say with one condition, that you need to perform well in GDPI. My friend had even called one of them (Viraj) and asked about the weightage and his suggestions. It is actually 60% for CAT/XAT and rest 40% based on GDPI and profile (wrk-ex,acads,etc). But with such a weightage which is similar to most of the colleges, I would say it is a tactic deployed by TAPMI to attract more applications and thereby earn a lot. I need not tell you how much a TAPMI application costs, how much they are gonna cough up every year.

I am talking based on sheer facts. I have a friend studying there (name cannot be disclosed) and she said there are hardly any people or almost nil with scores below 70 in the current batch. Also I am sure of the wieghtage for admission process too, because of two reasons: a) else my friend who did exceptionally well in GDPI would have got an admit (similar profile as that of mile, barring CAT/XAT score). and more importantly b) because I came to know about the weightage from an insider (a TAPMI faculty) when asked about the same. I called him (my family friend) up to enquire why friend is not figuring even in the waitlist. So, only then he opened up and confessed about the weightage.

Pls guys dont expect anything from TAPMI and if you get admission, with a low score, you should be really lucky!
All The Best to all of you,
Cheers!

@ getnikhil23:
Your argument is that TAPMI is giving GDPI calls to all the applicants to attract more applications and earn from the application form costs.
Do you know that TAPMI is only one of the few Top Indian B-School that allows candidates to submit the forms even after declaration of CAT and XAT results.
Please let us know if there are any others top colleges which do so?
So its upto the candidates to analyse whether they stand a chance with 68 percentile or lower percentiles.
And TAPMI is spending money and the admissions office and faculty is putting lot of effort to conduct GD PI in a very professional manner (This you would also agree).
I do not think TAPMI wants to make money by selling application forms but giving hope to talented students who might have had an off day during CAT or XAT.

There are colleges which make money out of application forms.
Symbiosis for eg. Candidate has to pay for the SNAP test and pay 1000 separately to each college (SIBM, SCMHRD, SIIB, SIOM etc..) so he has to shell out 5-6k before knowing his score. And SNAP 2011 was one of the worst exams conducted this season(I can say this because i have experience it).
NMIMS a candidate can give NMAT thrice a year with no negative marking and each time he needs to shell out 1500 bucks.

raj_honour · May 20, 2012, 1:36pm

Hi All,

I am posting this message for the aspirants of TAPMI who will be referring this thread, be it for the year of 2012 or the coming years.

Let me give a brief introduction of myself:

Xth : 90.20
XIIth: 84.60
BTech: 6.73(CGPA)
Work Experience: 34 Months (TCS)
CAT 2011: OA 98.xx (QA: 97.xx & VA: 97.xx)
XAT 2012: OA 95.xx (QA: 93.xx; VA: 90.xx; DM:82.xx)
Converts: IIM-Ro,U,XIMB,IMT-G,TAPMI etc...

I need to convey a few things to fellow Puys:

My TAPMI admission process was very good with an decent GD and an awesome PI (knew I got spot admission from the interviewer's response). As expected I was given an offer letter within 5 days with a term coined by TAPMI as "exceptional candidate". I accepted the offer with glee as that was my first convert. A couple of days back I got IMT-G too which I seriously considered, but did not go for as I felt there is not much of a difference btw the two colleges.

Later I cancelled my admission @ TAPMI as I got XIMB and eventually IIMs. The issue w.r.t TAPMI that I have to convey is regarding my friend, who also applied TAPMI and got GDPI call with a %ile of 68.xx. I know many of guys would have got calls from TAPMI with similar scores or even lower. There is one thing that you all need to know and keep in mind from here on.

The weightage for CAT/XAT score w.r.t admissions is not something like 30% or some weird formula which people from TAPMI are spreading. The students in admissions commitee are giving a wrong notion or rather a hope that all of you guys are having a chance, a mathematical chance as they say with one condition, that you need to perform well in GDPI. My friend had even called one of them (Viraj) and asked about the weightage and his suggestions. It is actually 60% for CAT/XAT and rest 40% based on GDPI and profile (wrk-ex,acads,etc). But with such a weightage which is similar to most of the colleges, I would say it is a tactic deployed by TAPMI to attract more applications and thereby earn a lot. I need not tell you how much a TAPMI application costs, how much they are gonna cough up every year.

I am talking based on sheer facts. I have a friend studying there (name cannot be disclosed) and she said there are hardly any people or almost nil with scores below 70 in the current batch. Also I am sure of the wieghtage for admission process too, because of two reasons: a) else my friend who did exceptionally well in GDPI would have got an admit (similar profile as that of mile, barring CAT/XAT score). and more importantly b) because I came to know about the weightage from an insider (a TAPMI faculty) when asked about the same. I called him (my family friend) up to enquire why friend is not figuring even in the waitlist. So, only then he opened up and confessed about the weightage.

Pls guys dont expect anything from TAPMI and if you get admission, with a low score, you should be really lucky!
All The Best to all of you,
Cheers!

Hi Nikhil,
No offence meant, and I truly respect your feelings...but before that would you mind one question? Is 68percentile so good or decent atleast, to make it to one of the top premier b-schools of India. Sorry to be harsh, but he may not be able to make it even to the B-grade colleges, because they have a cutoff of around70-75...

And as far as TAPMI giving calls to all who apply, you should look into it positively that atleast people are getting a realistic chance to convert to a college like TAPMI...60% CAT and 40%GD...well even i CAT is unpredictable, you are expected to score that minimum marks that can see you through to a decent college atleast...

It was stated right at the beginning that 60% will be given to CAT and 40% to GD...by the seniors out here...and that was official...and even with this people wuith 75percentile have converted in the first list itself...

I am not at all afraid in mentioning some colleges:

MDI:70% to CAT...even if you are a good speaker with excellent communication skills and you have got a very good profile but your percentile is 92, you may not get into it....and a guy with 99percentile but being the biggest duffer on earth may make it to MDI...is this fair?

IMT:People are allocated to streams without their interest but based on the percentiles and relevant work experience...is this fair?

IMI:No marks allocated to percentile in second round...but high priority on freshers...very few with work ex of 2-2.5years have got thru it...is this fair?

Mind you since CAT has gone online, it has become more and more luck-based and even average guys are getting 99 these days...my friends have got it in front of me...

Atleast TAPMI gave a fair chance to people with even 70percentile...to get into a college where placements are 100percent...

Yaar, atleast do not challenge TAPMI's process...if you have to then first point out to those colleges whose name I have mentioned...

No offence meant bro...just to give a more clearer idea to the entrie process...

and yes ATB for your future endeavours and your converts and tell yoru friend to give CAT 2012 really well so that he can make it to IIMs next year...

nprado · May 20, 2012, 2:06pm

Double post

getnikhil23 · May 20, 2012, 2:47pm

Hi Nikhil,
No offence meant, and I truly respect your feelings...but before that would you mind one question? Is 68percentile so good or decent atleast, to make it to one of the top premier b-schools of India. Sorry to be harsh, but he may not be able to make it even to the B-grade colleges, because they have a cutoff of around70-75...

And as far as TAPMI giving calls to all who apply, you should look into it positively that atleast people are getting a realistic chance to convert to a college like TAPMI...60% CAT and 40%GD...well even i CAT is unpredictable, you are expected to score that minimum marks that can see you through to a decent college atleast...

It was stated right at the beginning that 60% will be given to CAT and 40% to GD...by the seniors out here...and that was official...and even with this people wuith 75percentile have converted in the first list itself...

I am not at all afraid in mentioning some colleges:

MDI:70% to CAT...even if you are a good speaker with excellent communication skills and you have got a very good profile but your percentile is 92, you may not get into it....and a guy with 99percentile but being the biggest duffer on earth may make it to MDI...is this fair?

IMT:People are allocated to streams without their interest but based on the percentiles and relevant work experience...is this fair?

IMI:No marks allocated to percentile in second round...but high priority on freshers...very few with work ex of 2-2.5years have got thru it...is this fair?

Mind you since CAT has gone online, it has become more and more luck-based and even average guys are getting 99 these days...my friends have got it in front of me...

Atleast TAPMI gave a fair chance to people with even 70percentile...to get into a college where placements are 100percent...

Yaar, atleast do not challenge TAPMI's process...if you have to then first point out to those colleges whose name I have mentioned...

No offence meant bro...just to give a more clearer idea to the entrie process...

and yes ATB for your future endeavours and your converts and tell yoru friend to give CAT 2012 really well so that he can make it to IIMs next year...

You asked me if 68%ile is decent enough? I feel it is! You said CAT involves luck too. I am also saying the same. All I am saying is if TAPMI accepts niche profile with a lower percentile, is there any point in applying? May be an astronaut will get thru I guess. My friend got into an excellent college based on her profile itself, and that XAT exam based college is also known for profile calls. It was truly a new knowledge that TAPMI gives a chance to lower percentile guys, only if they have something extra.
Dude, pls ready my first post before replying. I mentioned that I know a faculty @ TAPMI who said about the final admission offer weightage which is 60% CAT and rest GDPI,acads,wrkex etc..So this college also belongs to the same league as that of other colleges.
And pointing out about other B Schools, at least I am happy that they did not call people of 47%iles and so may be they could be excused as they call only people till 90%iles. So I disagree with you on the point that TAPMI is giving a fair chance even to a lower %iler. That is the image TAPMI is creating!

I feel like the Student Coordinator said, we should allow aspirants to put their queries & solve them.
By the way what are you upto (MBA Student/aspirant)? Anyways all the best to u mate. :)
Cheers!

n3nimbus · May 20, 2012, 5:53pm

first of all congo 2 all dos who made it in d Final List.., n 4 dos who cud Nt.., Life Doesn't End here.., All d Best 4 ur Future Endeavors..!! :)

Aftr reading previous posts., i thot i must share my exprnce also..
i hd 93.6%ile in CAT.., 88+ %age in 10th n 12th.. n yeah.., m a Male Engineer(IIM'z fav. category)
aftr cmplting Engineering., i hv been in my Family Business since july'10..

on d day of encounter.., performed well in GD.., so got thru frm 1st round..
nw in PI.., i ws second last in my group.. before me.., panel ws taking around 20 mins 4 aspirant's pi.. so I ws happie dat yeah., dey r giving enough time to evaluate..

in my turn.., panel started wid sm basic ques like whr i am frm n grad degree n all dat..
process ws going smooth until i told dem dat i hv been in my family biz for last 20 months n wud like to join d same aftr my post-graduation.. n gave sm reasons 2 do so.. den dey asked me sm very basic que regarding biz process..
den dey discontinued wid d same n asked me 2 face an extempore.. afaik.., i delivered well..
aftr dat 1 of panelists asked me wedr i hd any que., so i asked dem abt clg's linkup wid VC.. n he did explain me very well..

dats it.. he said.., THANK YOU.. n i ws in a big shock.., coz i ws out of d room in 7-8 mins..!!
@ dat pt of time only., i knew it.., wedr i ll get in2 first list or i m straight out of d race..!!

coz sm hw i felt dat., it dint go well coz i said i ll cm back 2 biz again aftr study..
I may b wrong., bt in 1 corner of d mind der cms a thot dat TAPMI prob wanted students who ll mk it 100% placement.. each n evry 1 getting selected in a gud company @ d end of 2 years..

i wud like to knw d studnts having dis kinda profile n getting selected 4 TAPMI..
probably i ll able 2 knw., wht actually went wrong..??..!!! :)

I also have work-ex in my family business since may'10
88.31 in XAT and bcom grad
acads are sh*t except 10th, but I converted :)

BTW just to make it clear, all top colleges including IIMs, XLRI, FMS, MDI etc have people pursuing entrepreneurship. In their placement reports or in any placements reports, it is always explicitly stated that 'x' number of students wanted to pursue their own career. Still the placements show as 100% coz the people who 'sit' for placements get placed. So, I don't think u got rejected because u wanted to pursue your own path or tapmi wanted 100% placements, coz tapmi still will get 100% placements even if people opt out of the placements. 😃

attilio.gatti · May 20, 2012, 6:23pm

Are you saying I acted unprofessionally? When I used the TAPMI student coordinator's name, is it? I dint sling mud at him, so I felt that was pretty much acceptable.
And you asked me a couple of questions, about why I am joining IIM from TAPMI? Why are you lingering in this forum, because you are a TAPMI-an or an aspirant (trying to maybe please the seniors). I know the thought process behind your reasoning.
You said about TAPMI giving a chance to everyone, for attending GD. What purpose does a GD alone serve? A feeling of gratitude that one was able to attend TAPMI's admission process, is it? Oh man, ppl come for admissions and not for some GD practice. If not the case, they could have joined some coaching classes for 2.5k and got even better practice.
Now, will you join TAPMI if u have an IIM or any creamy B School (please, TAPMI is not one of them) convert? Answer is plain NO. 😃 So, relax w.r.t that part of reasoning, and you saying let TAPMI earn this way by inviting more application by such kinda wrong notions. This is plain fraud and you are comparing that to me choosing better colleges than TAPMI. One word I have for you, Ridiculous!

first of all congrtzz for clearing IIM-rohtak.seriously dude IIM brand is really what we dream but that only for IIM A,B,C,K,L,I..my dad was from IIM-A and he just like some of his IIM friends r really anguished of the fact that IIM r so keen in opening branches which is diminishing the IIM status.the fact that the new IIMs r still getting avg 13L + becoz of low batch strength and nothing else...now still clearing IIM rohtak is truely tough i must admit...i,despite of studying so hard could manage only 93.39 so i know what it takes to get above 98+....what is really not expected from so much "talented" kids like u is that u talking against tapmi...i am really not getting if tapmi called guys with 60%ile what is wrong then....it is the kolg's own prespective and decission...tapmi ranks among the premium b-schools in india and i know my cousin's frnd who did his mba from tapmi 12yrs back is getting 23L and my cousin who did it from IIM-C is getting 25L....so u can clearly see what is the real scenario....and speaking of ur talented frnd i am certain 63%ile is really not good enough..i admit cat now-a-days is surely a luck game but still getting

getnikhil23 · May 20, 2012, 7:55pm

Attilio Gatti Says
first of all congrtzz for clearing IIM-rohtak.seriously dude IIM brand is really what we dream but that only for IIM A,B,C,K,L,I..my dad was from IIM-A and he just like some of his IIM friends r really anguished of the fact that IIM r so keen in opening branches which is diminishing the IIM status.the fact that the new IIMs r still getting avg 13L + becoz of low batch strength and nothing else...now still clearing IIM rohtak is truely tough i must admit...i,despite of studying so hard could manage only 93.39 so i know what it takes to get above 98+....what is really not expected from so much "talented" kids like u is that u talking against tapmi...i am really not getting if tapmi called guys with 60%ile what is wrong then....it is the kolg's own prespective and decission...tapmi ranks among the premium b-schools in india and i know my cousin's frnd who did his mba from tapmi 12yrs back is getting 23L and my cousin who did it from IIM-C is getting 25L....so u can clearly see what is the real scenario....and speaking of ur talented frnd i am certain 63%ile is really not good enough..i admit cat now-a-days is surely a luck game but still getting

Come on dude.. the guy did not have any issue in my manners. neither i felt so. Now u the onlooker is having an issue, which frankly speaking I need not bother. And that smiley on the last line speaks volumes of ur manners! Trying to please your seniors huh? I know wat goes in your mind as I am also an active member of PG.

You urself said Why did your TAPMI call all applicants above 47, if they will consider only a niche profile candidate with such kinda marks.
Can you answer me that mate?
If so, I will learn manners from you.
Cheers!

attilio.gatti · May 20, 2012, 8:46pm

hehe.....i was not in anyway trying to please the seniors as again i am waitlisted(137) but will not join tapmi as i am interested in HR...i felt by ur words that u were trying to undermine this kolg...may be this is an outburst of excessive zeal which generated with ur IIM convert...:P...so i wrote it trying to say the same....yaah i admit....that smiley was in-appropriate...no hard feelings...again..agar tapmi ne 47 %ile ko bulaya hain to problem kya hain....it is their discretion....IIM K to cat ka cut-off 85 kia hain....agar isime tum kyun bologe to kaise chalega.....

raj_honour · May 20, 2012, 9:30pm

You asked me if 68%ile is decent enough? I feel it is! You said CAT involves luck too. I am also saying the same. All I am saying is if TAPMI accepts niche profile with a lower percentile, is there any point in applying? May be an astronaut will get thru I guess. My friend got into an excellent college based on her profile itself, and that XAT exam based college is also known for profile calls. It was truly a new knowledge that TAPMI gives a chance to lower percentile guys, only if they have something extra.
Dude, pls ready my first post before replying. I mentioned that I know a faculty @ TAPMI who said about the final admission offer weightage which is 60% CAT and rest GDPI,acads,wrkex etc..So this college also belongs to the same league as that of other colleges.
And pointing out about other B Schools, at least I am happy that they did not call people of 47%iles and so may be they could be excused as they call only people till 90%iles. So I disagree with you on the point that TAPMI is giving a fair chance even to a lower %iler. That is the image TAPMI is creating!

I feel like the Student Coordinator said, we should allow aspirants to put their queries & solve them.
By the way what are you upto (MBA Student/aspirant)? Anyways all the best to u mate. :)
Cheers!

First of all, even if CAT is unpredictable, 68percentile is by now way decent...because if you just check the marks of the guy who got 68percentile...you will find he managed not more than 20-22correct questions in CAT... which is below average...boss, u need to have some aptitude skills along with communication skills to make it to the second round...
also...u told me about the faculty saying that criteria so let me tell u:
Stage 1: CAT 60percent and GD only 40percent
In this stage you need to have a total of 65 out of 100 to make it to the next stage
Stage 2:This stage takes into account your marks (10,12,grad),work experience,essay and interview and also the marks you got in Stage 1.

You can verify with anyone

Now it is expected that you need to have that minimum aptitude skills along with your excellent communication skills...if that is not the case then how come there are so many people with 70-80percentiles...and how come not all the convertees are 90plus percentiles...
And the colleges i mentioned...well,it's bad for them because they are considering only the aptitude of students and not other criteria you know what.In the end it's their loss...and for your kind information...TAPMI has better ROI as compared to the colleges I mentioned.

I would also go on to say that the new IIMs are also taking that average lot(not for you)who on that particular day scored in an easy substandard CAT paper, irrespective of their other skills...

You were challenging about TAPMI's transparency...go and look at the criteria that new IIMs had put up on their website pre-CAT...As per their criteria people even with 90percentile and really good acads are supposed to get through to the next round...but in the end it was seen that they had chosen people based on their CAT percentiles for Stage One...cutoff being 97percentile...wasnt this unfair?

As per me, only the top six IIMs and TAPMI gives fair chances...that even if you dont score well at CAT...atleast have a decent aptitude skill and good communication skills and profile to make it throught their college

And as far as giving a call...TAPMI never gave any calls...it was an open application...either your friend was brave or foolish to go and attend TAPMI GDPI...well,honestly had I been in his place I would have never even applied given my percentile, because my percentile would have been too less for a convert...although I am a good speaker...
Hence dont point out anything to TAPMI...rather tell your friend to give CAT next time and be prepared...
Congrats for your IIM Rohtak call...

As for me, here is my profile,although not great as yours,still sharing:

CAT:93.39
X:80.75
X11:73.4
B.TECH:7.48 in ECE
Work Ex:34months in CTS
Calls:GIM,TAPMI,IMI HR,IMT DCP,IIT K(w/l)

Joining TAPMI...

hitmancode69 · May 20, 2012, 10:30pm

First of all, even if CAT is unpredictable, 68percentile is by now way decent...because if you just check the marks of the guy who got 68percentile...you will find he managed not more than 20-22correct questions in CAT... which is below average...boss, u need to have some aptitude skills along with communication skills to make it to the second round...
also...u told me about the faculty saying that criteria so let me tell u:
Stage 1: CAT 60percent and GD only 40percent
In this stage you need to have a total of 65 out of 100 to make it to the next stage
Stage 2:This stage takes into account your marks (10,12,grad),work experience,essay and interview and also the marks you got in Stage 1.

You can verify with anyone

Now it is expected that you need to have that minimum aptitude skills along with your excellent communication skills...if that is not the case then how come there are so many people with 70-80percentiles...and how come not all the convertees are 90plus percentiles...
And the colleges i mentioned...well,it's bad for them because they are considering only the aptitude of students and not other criteria you know what.In the end it's their loss...and for your kind information...TAPMI has better ROI as compared to the colleges I mentioned.

I would also go on to say that the new IIMs are also taking that average lot(not for you)who on that particular day scored in an easy substandard CAT paper, irrespective of their other skills...

You were challenging about TAPMI's transparency...go and look at the criteria that new IIMs had put up on their website pre-CAT...As per their criteria people even with 90percentile and really good acads are supposed to get through to the next round...but in the end it was seen that they had chosen people based on their CAT percentiles for Stage One...cutoff being 97percentile...wasnt this unfair?

As per me, only the top six IIMs and TAPMI gives fair chances...that even if you dont score well at CAT...atleast have a decent aptitude skill and good communication skills and profile to make it throught their college

And as far as giving a call...TAPMI never gave any calls...it was an open application...either your friend was brave or foolish to go and attend TAPMI GDPI...well,honestly had I been in his place I would have never even applied given my percentile, because my percentile would have been too less for a convert...although I am a good speaker...
Hence dont point out anything to TAPMI...rather tell your friend to give CAT next time and be prepared...
Congrats for your IIM Rohtak call...

As for me, here is my profile,although not great as yours,still sharing:

CAT:93.39
X:80.75
X11:73.4
B.TECH:7.48 in ECE
Work Ex:34months in CTS
Calls:GIM,TAPMI,IMI HR,IMT DCP,IIT K(w/l)

Joining TAPMI...

Guys! its a sheer waste of time and energy to explain something to a stubborn. And Nikhil one thing..ur really a good entertainer! though most of the things u said were guessable. No offences dude..you're entering in a new life..live ur dreams..