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Hey!
Can some1 actually explain what strategy consultants do!?
I was actually giving some thought to my post mba plans (assuming i do get an mba and i do get a choice in terms of placement) and i was confused between marketing and strategy consultancy.
can some1 give some clarity about the what these professionals do.


I started a PG thread way back in 2005. You may want to start there:
http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/consulting-management-strategic-it-et-all-25011643

However marketing and strategy consulting are 2 different games all together. I am sure if you know what strat consultants do you can figure the rest

HTH,

Arun - CrackVerbal
Good to see another long time lurker (?) getting converted into a registered user just for this thread.

You know you, psycho and this thread deserve it:thumbsup:

It's ok if you can't prove everything on paper. Use your essays and the recommendations to build credibility for yourself.

Adcoms can sense the genuine ones from those who are faking it.

Do highlight the fact that your work was recognised, but rather than going overboard with details (like the free car being in the name of the employer), focus on topics that are really important.

Thanks for clarifying, however I think my post conveyed a different idea.
I have a impression that IIMs are quite finicky about all the claims made in the application and ask for evidences. A frnd of mine once claimed at IIMA that he was shortlisted for 5 companies in campus and the adcom asked him to show the offer letters!!! maybe be he spiced up the story maybe he didn't.
But then if it is other way round then its upto me how well can I fake it. Isn't it?

anyway good to have psycho also back. Skilled manpower is now becoming precious resource everywhere

Hi,

I would like to take admission sept 2011 batch.But the problem is I have not given GMAT. Will it be possible to get admission for sept 2011 batch. and plz suggest me gud universities/ colleges in Europe/UK/ASIA where I can take admission in sept and will be benefited in future. kindly guide. Need help!!!

I have done BE in Computer Science with avg percentage.
Have 3 years of work exp with reputed company.

if some one aspire to be an i-banker/consultant bt if he dnt have any relevant work ex..is it end of road for him ?he wl b treated as a fresher ryt?

I have a impression that IIMs are quite finicky about all the claims made in the application and ask for evidences.
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But then if it is other way round then its upto me how well can I fake it. Isn't it?


I don't think IIMs are an exception that way, as most schools will ask for evidence when they think the candidate is stretching the facts a little too much.

The number of applications for Indian schools is huge compared to the international schools. So in a bid to get themselves noticed, some applicants might be tempted to try some stunts to get attention. And schools are only being cautious in weeding out such applicants.

Bschool apps are more about effective and impactful story telling, rather than generating stories. So faking in the apps is not a good strategy. Even if one is successful in the short term and gets into the school of his/her choice, the lie might surface later and jeopardise all the genuine work that has gone into it so far. And loss of face is much tougher to digest than a lost bschool seat.

- Sameer
MBA Crystal Ball

Hey. This is my first post on this forum. It's a great place!!

I have a question regarding the admission policies as far securing admission in a foreign based college for an MBA programme.

I have a BSc in Botany.

Now I had decided to give CAT, XAT, SNAPS and pretty much all the other exams this year as I was focused on securing a place at a B-School in India.

But now, I feel I would actually do better by securing a place at a US based B-School.

So obviously, I need 12+4 right ?? So I'm going in for a MSc programme this year.

Question # 1 : Should I just do one year of the MSc so that I get a 12+4 or should I complete the whole course ?

Question # 2 : How much does work experience count for? Is it a prerequisite for getting admission into a B-School in the states?

Question # 3 : My academic record since school has been at best above average. How much will this have an impact on the kind of B-Schools that admit me ?

Question # 4 : This might ba strange question to ask after all that I've asked before, but apart from the top of the chain B-School's like Harvard. MIT Sloan, Wharton, etc. do the 'other' B-School's have enough to warrant the amount of money I'll be possibily spending ??

Thanks.

agiri Says
I would like to take admission sept 2011 batch.But the problem is I have not given GMAT. Will it be possible to get admission for sept 2011 batch.


It's too late for Sept 2011. If you take the GMAT over the next few months, you can target Round 1 deadlines for schools where the classes will start in Sept 2012.

- Sameer
MBA Crystal Ball

Hello Arun / Sameer,

I am an Engineer currently working as a Project Manager with 10 years of experience across banking domain in one of the top IT MNC. I am planning to do a 1 year fulltime MBA in India. I came across the below B Schools which currently offers the 1 year full time MBA.

IIMA/B/C/L/I.
ISB.
XLRI.
SP Jain.
GLIM.

Can you please let me know the average work experience that a 1 year MBA can have in India? Some how I feel that I am too old to look out for a MBA at this point of time

Do you see any other alternatives to MBA?

Thanks,
Vinodh

Adding to the above note, I wanted to have a career shift from IT to investment banking area.



I want to go into consultancy or strategy post MBA
what are the certification etc. can I do during MBA to enhance my chances in theses fields.


No amount of certifications are going to help you get into strategy. Think about it - isn't strategy about *thinking* and not *doing*. If you start doing things according to some "process" would it be strategy? I bet not

You need to be smart, have a great education, and impress the hell out of the panel in the interview. You are all set then ;)

Arun - CrackVerbal


Can you please let me know the average work experience that a 1 year MBA can have in India? Some how I feel that I am too old to look out for a MBA at this point of time


Firstly you can google and find it out. If you do that you will see that the average age in IIM-A PGPX is a whopping 34! So no need to feel old (that's what I keep telling myself too ;))


Do you see any other alternatives to MBA?
............
Adding to the above note, I wanted to have a career shift from IT to investment banking area.


Alternative to do what? To shift to IBanking? Why on earth would you want to do that?

If you decide to stick to Project Management then I can advice 1 thing since I have been through the trenches myself - APM->PM->Sr.PM->Delivery Manager -> Sr.Delivery Manager
to progress in IT PM/Delivery role you really don't need an MBA

However I think you should reflect on your own goals in life with regards to a job. I have told this many times in the past. Here is a post that I dug out from the archives - from 2004! (Actually even I am surprised at what Psychod had to say then )

http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/jobs-myths-facts-and-everything-about-it-25004837

HTH,

Arun - CrackVerbal

PS: I am just noticing a far fewer "thanks" for responses these days. Is it too hard to punch a button below to let us know we are being appreciated?

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guys can u plz tellme,
is it easy/difficult to switch from navratna/maharatna psu to mnc ?

Hi Sameer, Arun,

Much appreciate your efforts and insights in guiding aspirants like us.

I would like to briefly introduce myself; my name is Kushagra and below is a snap shot of my profile

Work Exp - 2 yrs, Consumer Products (Nickelodeon and MTV) at Viacom 18 .
Acads - Average nd less (10th- 88.4, 12th- 72.8, Grad- 7.0 CGPA, Bachelor of Fashion Technology from National Institute of Fashion Technology, Hyderabad)
ECs - Good. Have been national level orator in school, college; part of sponsorship committee in college etc
GMAT - Yet to take, planning 9th August
Acads - Average nd less (10th- 88.4, 12th- 72.8, Grad- 7.0 CGPA, Bachelor of Fashion Technology)
Target School: ISB for 2012-13
Recommendations: Planning to take it from my SVP, have worked with him closely and Senior Manager whom I report to

Well, at this juncture I know I am late considering i have two months to take my GMAT which is of course daunting and start my application process to ISB as well with September 15th as the deadline; have to apply in Round 1 anyhow. The above plan seems a little unrealistic considering GMAT and application process both are tough affairs but I am geared for them and want to complete both of them to perfection.

I am looking for proper guidance in my application process (ISB Specific) where in I can come down to your offices to discuss and adopt a proper approach; would appreciate your inputs here and if we can schedule a meeting and discuss things with regards to various services that you offer.

Thanks in Advance.

Best,
Kushagra


Kindly let me know what would be the ideal score to get into ISB,NUS,STANFORD.

Prefer these 3!


Aim for 750+ that would make sure there is no problem with your GMAT. That would make it a clear 20-30 points higher than the average.

HTH,

Arun - CrackVerbal

Bonga-bhai,

Who said that 12+3 is not sufficient? This is a legacy from the 1990s when US schools required that for their MS program since the US follows a 4-degree system. However a lot has changed in the last 15-20 years and now a 3 year degree is sufficient in most place (not all though - for example UCLA Anderson requires 4 years)

Having said that let me clarify your specific questions:


Question # 1 : Should I just do one year of the MSc so that I get a 12+4 or should I complete the whole course ?

Don't do anything for the heck of it. If you want to do a Masters do it completely - i.e. full 2 years. Not just now but for the rest of your life such credentials stick to you. Plus why would a US school consider an incomplete degree?


Question # 2 : How much does work experience count for? Is it a prerequisite for getting admission into a B-School in the states?

Though most schools don't explicitly call for it ( my $0.02 here) it ends up being an important criterion since it gives opportunity to show-case your leadership skills and ability to work in real-world. If you don't have work experience then you should be able to evince enough leadership experience + experience for them to consider you.


Question # 3 : My academic record since school has been at best above average. How much will this have an impact on the kind of B-Schools that admit me ?


Will hurt you but not necessarily keep you out.


Question # 4 : This might ba strange question to ask after all that I've asked before, but apart from the top of the chain B-School's like Harvard. MIT Sloan, Wharton, etc. do the 'other' B-School's have enough to warrant the amount of money I'll be possibily spending ??


It is a personal opinion - top for someone is only top-5. For some it is top-10. For some it could even be top-50. What is more important is that you know what you want out of the MBA program, and how it fits into your long-term goals. So this is a very personal judgement. Not something that I or anyone else can give.

HTH,

Arun - CrackVerbal


- Sameer
Sub-700 scorer and not-so-proud of it

Hi Guys
Any information on EPITA France?

How is the school?

Thanks


i have two months to take my GMAT which is of course daunting and start my application process to ISB as well with September 15th as the deadline; have to apply in Round 1 anyhow.

Kushagra,

There is still enough time to prepare for the GMAT and take it before the date (9th August) you've booked.

I am looking for proper guidance in my application process (ISB Specific) where in I can come down to your offices to discuss and adopt a proper approach;
As far as admissions counselling is concerned (unlike in fields like yoga training or getting a tattoo done) there isn't any incremental benefit of being in the same physical space. Apart from getting a 3-dimensional view of the consultant's physical attributes, there's nothing that'll you gain extra.

For example, I look like a cross between a Yeti and Godzilla, which is why I chose admissions consulting rather than modelling as a career option. We'd never get clients if we insisted on face-to-face meetings.

The guidance, ideas and suggestions you get are far more important (and they are all verbal or written). That's how the international admissions consultants function and that's our model as well.

Check out our website to see what we do and how we do it.

Nickelodeon and MTV! Quite a combo. I'd be keen to hear about your adventures at both these companies.

- Sameer
MBA Crystal Ball
Kushagra,

There is still enough time to prepare for the GMAT and take it before the date (9th August) you've booked.

As far as admissions counselling is concerned (unlike in fields like yoga training or getting a tattoo done) there isn't any incremental benefit of being in the same physical space. Apart from getting a 3-dimensional view of the consultant's physical attributes, there's nothing that'll you gain extra.

For example, I look like a cross between a Yeti and Godzilla, which is why I chose admissions consulting rather than modelling as a career option. We'd never get clients if we insisted on face-to-face meetings.

The ideas, suggestions and guidance you get is more important (and they are all verbal or written). That's how the international admissions consultants function and that's our model as well.

Check out our website to see what we do and how we do it.

Nickelodeon and MTV! Quite a combo. I'd be keen to hear about your adventurous at both these companies.

- Sameer
MBA Crystal Ball

Hi Sameer,

I have booked 9th August as a date taking into account certain buffer because at times, the work becomes too hectic and it becomes a bitch to take out time to study, suggest me a strategy for a 780, don't want to settle for anything that is mediocre.

Quite a naive when it comes to latest trends in consulting and would any day prefer online guidance than meetings so let me know how do we go about this one.

And with regards to work.. yea quite diverse... Nickelodeon and MTV aren't different companies but are brands under the Viacom 18 umbrella and I work in the consumer products division where in I work for both the brands.

Best,
Kushagra