& also try to find out why you want to do an internship.. Once you find out an answer, then you yourself will come to know where you want to do the same..
Never do things without clarity.. All the best :)
@nan03 Kindly sit for an entire day.. Decide why you want to do MBA first.. Find out your career interests.. Have a goal in life & then see if doing MBA makes it easier to achieve your goal.. :)
@nan03 First of all, don't think that every guy in an IT company will have to do hardcore coding stuff. A project's work is divided into several parts where you can have any work you are allotted to in the group.
Second, you must try and secure a job first. I am not against your opinion that you don't want to stay in the technical line any more, but if and when you'll face an MBA interview you'll have a hard time justifying this question, why leave the IT line without opting for a job when on the first place you opted for IT in graduation.
My suggestion, you're still in your 3rd year. Do your industrial training well. Get acquainted with how things happen inside the IT world. Get to know how a project is carried out, in the professional world. Keep your options open, and go for other exams as well, and try and secure a job first. This is your plan B if you don't get to do MBA on the first attempt. For now, concentrate on your learning process, and take things one at a time.
Second, you must try and secure a job first. I am not against your opinion that you don't want to stay in the technical line any more, but if and when you'll face an MBA interview you'll have a hard time justifying this question, why leave the IT line without opting for a job when on the first place you opted for IT in graduation.
My suggestion, you're still in your 3rd year. Do your industrial training well. Get acquainted with how things happen inside the IT world. Get to know how a project is carried out, in the professional world. Keep your options open, and go for other exams as well, and try and secure a job first. This is your plan B if you don't get to do MBA on the first attempt. For now, concentrate on your learning process, and take things one at a time.
Can I just clarify, only the ISB MBA and PGPM programmes are MBA programmes in India. The PGPM programmes are essentially pre-experience masters and are in no way shape and form an MBA (whole point of an MBA is people with substantial work experience from diverse backgrounds can bring in perspectives to discussions that freshers/run off the mill IT guys with 2-3 years work experience cannot).
hi all,
I have 30 months of experience in IT field as Mainframe developer, given MAT and got admission in CHRIST university (MBA).
My acads:
10th : 85 %
12th : 85 %
BE (Electrical and Electronics) : 68 %
MAT : 94%ile
I have few questions,
*Just to be on the safer side, will I be able to shift back to IT (technical field)
after doing an MBA (FULL TIME) ? will companies accept my profile with that '2 years gap' ?
Many thanks in advance :)
@Sekr said:hi all,I have 30 months of experience in IT field as Mainframe developer, given MAT and got admission in CHRIST university (MBA).My acads:10th : 85 %12th : 85 %BE (Electrical and Electronics) : 68 %MAT : 94%ileI have few questions,*Just to be on the safer side, will I be able to shift back to IT (technical field)after doing an MBA (FULL TIME) ? will companies accept my profile with that '2 years gap' ?Many thanks in advance
You will be able to shift back to IT field for sure, and those two years will not be considered as gap coz you were in professional studies. It will add up to your advantage in roles and responsibility.
@ashmole2009 said:that freshers/run off the mill IT guys with 2-3 years work experience cannot.
Dude it does not sound good when you say "run off the mill".
@tiwarishiva said:
Dude it does not sound good when you say "run off the mill".
So you don't think run off the mill is an appropriate term for an industry where each of the big IT co's hire 50,000 people a year in one country alone?
@ashmole2009 said:So you don't think run off the mill is an appropriate term for an industry where each of the big IT co's hire 50,000 people a year in one country alone?
A lot of people in this world move with a plan and strategy. Please do not generalize.
@tiwarishiva said:A lot of people in this world move with a plan and strategy. Please do not generalize.
The point of my post was the PGPM's are not an MBA degree, but a pre-experience Masters like the ones offered in the west. Doesn't make it pointless, just people shouldn't call it an MBA as the MBA is a professional degree.
@ashmole2009 said:So you don't think run off the mill is an appropriate term for an industry where each of the big IT co's hire 50,000 people a year in one country alone?
Bhai.. I'm not from IT but I'm sorry to say that your tone is not appreciable :neutral:
What he was saying is, we can not generalize which is true..
If every one working in IT field is really a run off the mill kind, then we would have never seen Narayanamurty, Azim Premji etc., :)
@bhargav.nitc said:Bhai.. I'm not from IT but I'm sorry to say that your tone is not appreciableWhat he was saying is, we can not generalize which is true..If every one working in IT field is really arun off the millkind, then we would have never seen Narayanamurty, Azim Premji etc.,
You can generalise. The whole point of a generalisation is a large portion of the population exhibit similar/identical characteristics. There will always be exceptions, but that will never be more than, say, 10% of the population
@ashmole2009 said:You can generalise. The whole point of a generalisation is a large portion of the population exhibit similar/identical characteristics. There will always be exceptions, but that will never be more than, say, 10% of the population
Some times definitions have no place in real world.. Some people might have felt offended with the term used (run off the mill IT guys) & since, we do not have right to hurt even a single person its better some times not to generalize.. :)
& since, this is not the right forum to debate, I rest my case !! Sorry to spam :neutral:
@bhargav.nitc said:Some times definitions have no place in real world.. Some people might have felt offended with the term used (run off the mill IT guys) & since, we do not have right to hurt even a single person its better some times not to generalize..& since, this is not the right forum to debate, I rest my case !! Sorry to spam
My comment was in relation to the fact the PGPM's are viewed as MBA's by people in India. What differentiates an MBA from a pre-experience Masters? Contribution from people with substantial experience in different fields. If everyone has an engineering degree and worked at the same 3/4 IT companies, can you please tell me how you will have an interesting discussion with a wide variety of perspectives in an "MBA" class?
@ashmole2009 You're in the wrong thread. Please create a separate thread and discuss the prospects of PGPM and MBA there.
@ashmole2009 said:My comment was in relation to the fact the PGPM's are viewed as MBA's by people in India. What differentiates an MBA from a pre-experience Masters? Contribution from people with substantial experience in different fields. If everyone has an engineering degree and worked at the same 3/4 IT companies, can you please tell me how you will have an interesting discussion with a wide variety of perspectives in an "MBA" class?
Had your post been with out the words "run off the mill IT guys", it would have been much better !!
With regard to your point, so what are you advising people finally? To stop aiming for IIMs because they offer PGPs & not MBA?? To concentrate only on ISB or some MBA out side??
Yes, I do agree both are different.. So what as long as it serves my purpose & my organization's purpose??
Irrespective of whether you do PGP or MBA, or even if you don't do any of the two.. It entirely depends on several factors like our personality, desire for growth, passion, aim, determination, motivation, dedication, etc., to achieve success in life!!
& yeah, I won't be replying any further since I already mentioned this is not the right forum .. Sorry to spam :neutral:
@visionIIM-ACL Saar, kindly delete these posts if required so.. no issues :)
@ashmole2009 said:My comment was in relation to the fact the PGPM's are viewed as MBA's by people in India. What differentiates an MBA from a pre-experience Masters? Contribution from people with substantial experience in different fields. If everyone has an engineering degree and worked at the same 3/4 IT companies, can you please tell me how you will have an interesting discussion with a wide variety of perspectives in an "MBA" class?
What can i tell you is that people are more colorful in their views than what demographics define them as .. No two IT/Engg guys think the same way .. no 2 have the same way of doing a certain thing ... lets not generalize things in life .. Anyways i agree if we have more diversity in a class we will have a good interaction but it may or may not increase the quality of discussion ..
MBA makes you think which none of the UG programs i have come across focuses upon .. it challenges you to analyze and make decisions when there is a lot of uncertainty .. i just hope the well educated society doesn't generalize people on prev education /experience, every individual is unique and has something valuable to share (given one is willing to )..
We dont to need have the same definitions of MBA across the world .. MBA is not standard , best practice based education .. its still very much evolving , defining new boundaries , exploring new possibilities .. its more of an art than science ..
I am not asking you to agree with me , but what you stated today is what everybody is saying .. people are being put into baskets and told you are just not good enough .. when will we consider the individual based on his/her unique set of qualities or talents?
@bhargav.nitc said:Had your post been with out the words "run off the mill IT guys", it would have been much better !!With regard to your point, so what are you advising people finally? To stop aiming for IIMs because they offer PGPs & not MBA?? To concentrate only on ISB or some MBA out side??Yes, I do agree both are different.. So what as long as it serves my purpose & my organization's purpose??Irrespective of whether you do PGP or MBA, or even if you don't do any of the two.. It entirely depends on several factors like our personality, desire for growth, passion, aim, determination, motivation, dedication, etc., !!& yeah, I won't be replying any further since I already mentioned this is not the right forum .. Sorry to spam@visionIIM-ACL Saar, kindly delete these posts if required so.. no issues
It was to inform the prospective student what they are getting themselves into. When did I say a PGP is no good for the purpose it serves?
@abhimukh19 said:What can i tell you is that people are more colorful in their views than what demographics define them as .. No two IT/Engg guys think the same way .. no 2 have the same way of doing a certain thing ... lets not generalize things in life .. Anyways i agree if we have more diversity in a class we will have a good interaction but it may or may not increase the quality of discussion ..MBA makes you think which none of the UG programs i have come across focuses upon .. it challenges you to analyze and make decisions when there is a lot of uncertainty .. i just hope the well educated society doesn't generalize people on prev education /experience, every individual is unique and has something valuable to share (given one is willing to )..We dont to need have the same definitions of MBA across the world .. MBA is not standard , best practice based education .. its still very much evolving , defining new boundaries , exploring new possibilities .. its more of an art than science ..I am not asking you to agree with me , but what you stated today is what everybody is saying .. people are being put into baskets and told you are just not good enough .. when will we consider the individual based on his/her unique set of qualities or talents?
An MBA is the standard in business education. In all major countries except India you need 2-3 years + work experience to be eligible for admissions, though the average is 5+.
There must be a reason why all the leading MBA's globally want an extremely diverse cohort. If Harvard thought along the same lines as the Indian Business Schools then it's entire intake would be Front Office bankers/ Strategic Consultants (using IB/Strat Consul. as an example as it attracts the brightest just how the majority of the brighest fresh graduates work in the IT sector in India), but it doesn't.
@ajaygovindg @visionIIM-ACL Hey, i am working in TCS for the past 16 months. Got 98.2 %ile in Cat this year and was shortlisted for NMIMS also(99.5 %ile). In race for 6 new iims, imt ghzbd, imi delhi , delhi school of economics. Though there is still some time left in final results, but the thing is that i have also got Income tax inspector post (around 40k per month) in Delhi. I will def go for newer iims in case i convert any of them. If otherwise, please suggest that should i go for mba from colleges like nmims,imt,imi,dse or should i go for that job in income tax dept. ?.. actually 1 factor is that these colleges do not have an exceptionally good scenario when it comes to placements..and will cost me around 15 lacs for 2 yrs.. compiled with around 10-12 lacs that i will get in the job at income tax for the coming 2 years... so the money difference is huge... Also, just in case, after 1-2 years of work ex in income tax, if i decide to go for mba then, should that be considered a relevant work exp..??...Can i go for Cat and maybe even Gmat later on with the mix work ex of Pvt. and public sector ??..
P.S.- to be honest, at present i dont have any motivation for doing mba apart from the hefty packages..