is query is from my bro who has jst completed 12th. he isfrom pcm background but nw says that its boring acc to him so dnt want to continue in this field.His intrst is in computers ,so gave bca enterance of I.P.UNIVERSITY,DELhI n got a good rank of 250 .so hopefull of getting very good.college from I.P. earlier he was focussed on bsc(computr hnrs) from DU but scored only 78% in 12th..so getting admission in top colleges is out of the picture but after subsequent lists may get in lower rated colleges of DU . so he is really confused between DU(brand name) or almost top college of IP but its brand name is less.. I.T gUYS PLS SUGGEST abt prospects of job n higher edu aFtr both of them. thanx :-) p.s- seeing me ..he also wants to pursue an mba aftr grad. :-)
I would suggest the college with a good placement (also watch out for good companies ) , good extracurricular exposure to students ... As far as your brother's future is concerned just ask him to have fun and score good(I erased great marks... but that's what I meant ) marks in grad and post grad ... ATB to ur bro !!
I wanted to do MBA cuz i wanted that exposure to works as a manager. yes i have appeared for Bank P.O and i failed in data analysis for 1 marks. what i m trying to say is i know in my more 2-3 attempts for P.O or clerk i will be able to make it and GD PI are not a big deal for me. I did initiated C.A wen i was doing my graduation but failing once there have destroyed my willingness to do C.A. Thus the options available for me are MBA or PGDM programs...
I do appreciate your comments toward my post but i would like to know if i m not the applicable candidate for my MBA. cuz i have got calls from colleges like jims, niilm, bimtech, ****, ndim, empi, asia pacific.. many more from south.. colleges like acharya, vishwavishwani, and i dont remember any thng more.. mitcon sinhgad and other gud colleges from pune.. actually i wanted to pursue it from mumbai but then knowing the process which says 85% is for maharastrian ppl and that scared me a lot...
so i m bit scared cuz i dont know where i stand. prior to that fact i thought i will gettin thru mumbai and i was avoinding colleges from other places now i know the fact n i wanna do it from delhi... so now if u cud suggest me any gud colleges where admissions are still available in delhi or in north. sriram group of college and ndim is till there where admission is still open n i hv cleared ndim gdpi and the last date is 7th of june to submit my fee.. i got the okhla campus as i wanted to pursue mba and not pgdm.. is okhla campus not as good as tukhlaqabad...
waiting for ur reply wid anticipation
What will you achieve by doing your MBA from the colleges you have mentioned? You will certainly get admission in many of these institutes. The seniors and alumni of these institutes will say that you will get 5 lakh package etc. But try to find out from the industry what kind of profiles people get after doing their MBA from these places and do they actually get so much. I know few finance people from one of the institutes mentioned starting their career as credit card sales executives in a good placement year.
Also there is no difference between MBA and PGDM. Just ensure that people get decent jobs in these places.
is query is from my bro who has jst completed 12th. he isfrom pcm background but nw says that its boring acc to him so dnt want to continue in this field.His intrst is in computers ,so gave bca enterance of I.P.UNIVERSITY,DELhI n got a good rank of 250 .so hopefull of getting very good.college from I.P. earlier he was focussed on bsc(computr hnrs) from DU but scored only 78% in 12th..so getting admission in top colleges is out of the picture but after subsequent lists may get in lower rated colleges of DU . so he is really confused between DU(brand name) or almost top college of IP but its brand name is less.. I.T gUYS PLS SUGGEST abt prospects of job n higher edu aFtr both of them. thanx :-) p.s- seeing me ..he also wants to pursue an mba aftr grad. :-)
DU brand name is good but for a BCA, ensure that companies visit the respective colleges for placement. I think that is more important.
Big IT companies like TCS, Wipro etc have special recruitment drives for BCA students. Your brother can appear for these positions.
To get a meaningful IT job, he would also have to do an MCA after this. Top institutes like IIT, NIT etc conduct entrance exams for MCA. (I hope my information is not backdated!)
For MBA, both DU and IPU would hold the same value. If he gets a good/popular college in DU, that would be preferable over IPU. Otherwise it won't make a difference. But he would have to score very well in CAT to get a good college.
Dont drop 2 years. Look for a job if you happen to do well at ICWAI, and simultaneously prepare for the CAT. For a decent shot at front end fin profiles, look no where apart from(In decreasing order of prospects) IIM CAB, FMS, IIM L, XL, IIM K
There will be a few front end profiles coming to some other schools too, but the entire shcool will be vying for them so its a b it of a long shot
The problem is I don't have a job right now and because i am from a non finance background , nobody is gonna give me a job unless i clear the CWA Finals which i take this month, which is dicey. Looks like i have no other option other than to join IMT G Finance.
These are my suggestions to you First -> Ask right questions to yourself .. do I really wanna do MBA? What will I achieve by doing it from 5 lakh-placement-college ? What will Iachieve by doing it from a good college ? do not settle for anything less Second ->work hard , I would suggest continue your job or find one and try to inculcate some hobby (as I can make out you do not have any or if you have you do not pursue it !)
Third -> Considering your human potential , I believe that anyone can do anything . So believe that you can and you will. Fourth ->take time for reaching important decision in your life, ALWAYS , there's no use taking a 5 lakh placement and being a king for 2 years rather than working hard for a year (or two - NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES) and being the king REST OF YOUR LIFE .... It's about self-respect buddy... All you'll have is that - self-respect , everything you do should boost it ...
Any help , drop me a personal message. I'll answer it to the fastest I can ..:grin:
RanaG, sb29, thanks 4 ur reply and i understand what u r trying to say. but the question is i believe that i m an average student n to make myself super brilliant i need to work hard. that is y even 5 lakh package is enuf for me. contrary there is a process in jamshedpur where u can abduct the inherit job of your parents who works in Tata steel. so the ultimate idea is to complete Mba n to earn sum experience of 3-4 yrs n then applying for the TATA Steel.
i also wanna disclose that i do have a hobby of finding tricks for hacking in an ethical way. i have completed my Information security and ethical hacking from Appin technology with 71% score third highest in our branch till date and still in a process. and there was an opportunity to get into R&D; of Appin technology knowing that it cud be the ultimate mistake that i m making cuz i wanted to pursue MBA..
I have considered many facts like there can be a boom or recession in any field.. so i opted for two different field which is IT and finance. MBA act as a Finance field and Hacking as an IT field. there cant b a situation where both the field will be goin thru recession.. if so update me cuz i really hv no idea abt it..
dont know y i m getting this vibe where every1 is asking me to drop my idea of doin MBA. i m not saying you guys are wrong contrary i m really happy about the fact that you guys are trying to help me out, but i m not able to unravel the mystery that u guys are suggesting me to have an alternative,,, cuz i have seen students who wanna pursue it from ndim, niilm and many more. but i havent got any such reviews from ur end.. just curious to knw the answer why shouldn't i pursue and you can be blunt cuz i am ready to face my weaknesses but i shud have a proper answer for not pursuing MBA.. dont get me wrong that i m not trusting u guys but just to make it more strong or valid i need some definite answer..
one thing that i wanna say is doing MBA is my goal right now and that is wat i m looking forward but trust me i really dont have any idea abt colleges which is forbidding me to take an admission somehow where i m looking my priorities(stated in previous threads) and considering college facilities and judging it. Aicte approved, ministry of hrd, naac accredited and many more other certificate which i can gather from an institute, 5 and above lakh packages.. fee structure 5-8 lakhs which include internation tour - leapy or ipad and n gud placement.... so can u suggest anythng now... i hope i have answered most of your questions now..
and how can i send you a personal message.. there wasnt any option in ur profile... thanks u sir for ur reply and looking forward for an update from ur end...
is query is from my bro who has jst completed 12th. he isfrom pcm background but nw says that its boring acc to him so dnt want to continue in this field.His intrst is in computers ,so gave bca enterance of I.P.UNIVERSITY,DELhI n got a good rank of 250 .so hopefull of getting very good.college from I.P. earlier he was focussed on bsc(computr hnrs) from DU but scored only 78% in 12th..so getting admission in top colleges is out of the picture but after subsequent lists may get in lower rated colleges of DU . so he is really confused between DU(brand name) or almost top college of IP but its brand name is less.. I.T gUYS PLS SUGGEST abt prospects of job n higher edu aFtr both of them. thanx :-) p.s- seeing me ..he also wants to pursue an mba aftr grad. :-)
At 250 he must be looking for MSIT/VIPS i gues. Visit and enquire about the placements at both IPU colleges. Also look if the DU colg provide placement opportunites.
thnx alot ..ranag ,sb and coolg :) @ coolg..yes he is lookin for MSIT ..n in DU he will get only lower rated Colleges which do Not have their own placement but there is a central placement cell.. so what wud u advise.?:)
Hello puys . . I am in real dilemma I request u all to please help me out. . I did my B.Com(Hons) Regular from Shaheed Bhagat Singh College DU(Passed out in 2010). . After that i have a work ek of just 8 months in Hotel (Not a star rated). .
Now my question is m unable to get a good job so i m looking forward to join BPO (Back-end profile) is it fair enuf ?? i mean will it create a negative impact in interviewers mind that i have a BPO exp will it diminish my chances of gettin in a good B-School. . Please guide. .
If this is a wrong section then do guide me where should i post for a prompt and accurate reply. . Appeared for CAT 2011 didnt score well now i dont want to sit idle. .
I am really confused and Depressed as well everything seems to be going wrong for me nothing is working for me. .
CAT2011 (1st season): 97.21 %ile Calls: IIMK, new IIMs, MDI, XIMB Converts: XIMB only :banghead:
Now this is a serious dilemma I'm in: 1-XIMB is a good option any day and can be taken up (first option); 2-You can do better! Give it another shot (second option- of which i am oft reminded by friends). On the one hand, CAT being super-unpredictable now leading to apprehensions about retaking it; on the other hand, the belief that with work-ex and a good score I can make it big as I have a decent profile to support me. I, personally, am torn between the two options and have been oscillating between them for forever now.
Regarding my background and profile, I'm a B.Tech fresher from an NIT (just graduated), Grad GPA -8.26/10 10th & 12th-95.6 and 88.4 respectively (CBSE) Have a job offer at an IT consultancy.
Now what on earth do I do? I know it's finally up to me, but sometimes the unpredictability of CAT scares me from gearing up to give it another shot. But then I really want an IIM (who doesn't ) or a top 10 insti at least.
Have to take a call soon, last day for XIMB fees withdrawal is fast approaching....HELP!!
CAT2011 (1st season): 97.21 %ile Calls: IIMK, new IIMs, MDI, XIMB Converts: XIMB only :banghead:
Now this is a serious dilemma I'm in: 1-XIMB is a good option any day and can be taken up (first option); 2-You can do better! Give it another shot (second option- of which i am oft reminded by friends). On the one hand, CAT being super-unpredictable now leading to apprehensions about retaking it; on the other hand, the belief that with work-ex and a good score I can make it big as I have a decent profile to support me. I, personally, am torn between the two options and have been oscillating between them for forever now.
Regarding my background and profile, I'm a B.Tech fresher from an NIT (just graduated), Grad GPA -8.26/10 10th & 12th-95.6 and 88.4 respectively (CBSE) Have a job offer at an IT consultancy.
Now what on earth do I do? I know it's finally up to me, but sometimes the unpredictability of CAT scares me from gearing up to give it another shot. But then I really want an IIM (who doesn't ) or a top 10 insti at least.
Have to take a call soon, last day for XIMB fees withdrawal is fast approaching....HELP!!
you have a nice academic background and being from an NIT adds to it.. if you really want to get into an IIM then you should try for it.. you are a fresher and have a job at hand too!! next year you would have a better profile and hence more conversion chances of better B schools.. I do not say XIMB is not good, but as per your profile and aspirations, you deserve a lot better..
think of it this way, things cannot go worse next year to a great extent.. you may still not get an IIM but then there are high chances for you to get into one of the better B schools..
Another option is to join XIMB and again prepare for CAT along with your MBA.. this option would make your life more hectic though and at the same time you would lose one year fee..
i mean will it create a negative impact in interviewers mind that i have a BPO exp will it diminish my chances of gettin in a good B-School. . Please guide. .
If not a huge advantage, it shall surely be not a disadvantage as well. 😃
No work ex is looked with hatred by B-School profs 😃 Need not worry and join the job. Try to learn whatever you can during the job and it shall help you.
All the best 😃
smnitb Says
Now this is a serious dilemma I'm in: 1-XIMB is a good option any day and can be taken up (first option); 2-You can do better! Give it another shot (second option- of which i am oft reminded by friends).
Buddy
Seeing your profile and what you scored this season, i strongly believe that you should go for another attempt and you will land at better places next year. 😃 In the meantime, join IT consulting and add value to your profile in terms of work ex as well. :)
The problem is I don't have a job right now and because i am from a non finance background , nobody is gonna give me a job unless i clear the CWA Finals which i take this month, which is dicey. Looks like i have no other option other than to join IMT G Finance.
I m so very stuck with mediocracy
Nobody is stuck with mediocrity unless one wants to be stuck. IMTG is a good option and with hard work and smart career moves, you can always reach the top.
RanaG, sb29, thanks 4 ur reply and i understand what u r trying to say. but the question is i believe that i m an average student n to make myself super brilliant i need to work hard. that is y even 5 lakh package is enuf for me. contrary there is a process in jamshedpur where u can abduct the inherit job of your parents who works in Tata steel. so the ultimate idea is to complete Mba n to earn sum experience of 3-4 yrs n then applying for the TATA Steel.
This was valid years ago. If it is valid now, it is valid for shop floor workers and blue collared jobs, not managerial jobs. Otherwise I would have been in Tata Steel by now.
Apart from that, it is my personal feeling (and I think others who are discouraging you, that you are not clear in your head about what you want to do in life. Figure that out first.
Hello puys . . I am in real dilemma I request u all to please help me out. . I did my B.Com(Hons) Regular from Shaheed Bhagat Singh College DU(Passed out in 2010). . After that i have a work ek of just 8 months in Hotel (Not a star rated). .
Now my question is m unable to get a good job so i m looking forward to join BPO (Back-end profile) is it fair enuf ?? i mean will it create a negative impact in interviewers mind that i have a BPO exp will it diminish my chances of gettin in a good B-School. . Please guide. .
If this is a wrong section then do guide me where should i post for a prompt and accurate reply. . Appeared for CAT 2011 didnt score well now i dont want to sit idle. .
I am really confused and Depressed as well everything seems to be going wrong for me nothing is working for me. .
Nothing wrong with BPO experience. But can you get any other job? Otherwise take the job and try looking for other jobs. Even in the BPO, will you be involved in the voice process? If not, then its Ok. If yes, try to move to some business process department.
This is eating me up. Suggestions, please.
CAT2011 (1st season): 97.21 %ile Calls: IIMK, new IIMs, MDI, XIMB Converts: XIMB only :banghead:
Now this is a serious dilemma I'm in: 1-XIMB is a good option any day and can be taken up (first option); 2-You can do better! Give it another shot (second option- of which i am oft reminded by friends). On the one hand, CAT being super-unpredictable now leading to apprehensions about retaking it; on the other hand, the belief that with work-ex and a good score I can make it big as I have a decent profile to support me. I, personally, am torn between the two options and have been oscillating between them for forever now.
Regarding my background and profile, I'm a B.Tech fresher from an NIT (just graduated), Grad GPA -8.26/10 10th & 12th-95.6 and 88.4 respectively (CBSE) Have a job offer at an IT consultancy.
Now what on earth do I do? I know it's finally up to me, but sometimes the unpredictability of CAT scares me from gearing up to give it another shot. But then I really want an IIM (who doesn't ) or a top 10 insti at least.
Have to take a call soon, last day for XIMB fees withdrawal is fast approaching....HELP!!
I would like to differ from the others. People have a wrong perception of XIMB that it is just a notch below. However, many companies (including mine) treat XIMB as tier1 school. Also, a friend of mine got into Goldman Sachs this yr. Unless you are aiming for top 4 IIMs, it won't make much of a difference. If you are looking for 'tag', then aim for top 6 IIMs, XL, SP and MDI. But most of the job offers that you would get from these instis, you will get from XIMB as well.
I am not sure if i have posted in the right forum to startwith. Anyways.... My Dilemma is more about whether i should go in for a Full Time MBA or Distance Learning.. I have about 3.9 years of IT Experience(would complete 4 years in august).I was working with Infosys and currently employeed with Symantec Corp. I did my Bsc Comp Sc. I want to change my track from IT to Finance. I am not looking for MBA abroad considering the current economic condition, that puts into question 2 year MBA Plan or executive MBA. I am not sure if i should go in for CAT or GMAT.... and to change my professional track do i really need a Full time MBA degree ??
I am not looking for MBA abroad considering the current economic condition, that puts into question 2 year MBA Plan or executive MBA. I am not sure if i should go in for CAT or GMAT.... and to change my professional track do i really need a Full time MBA degree ??
Regards, Shruti
I would suggest against going for Distance MBA education as of now .. It would just add a degree to your resume which ultimately may not be very valuable .. Switching into finance domain with distance degree will be very very difficult .. Another option could be to try for RBI or PO Jobs in government banks ..
Thanks for the reply. But considering my current salary Scale i am not sure how much do RBI or Goverment jobs would map to. Also what is your take on GMAT ?
Thanks for the reply. But considering my current salary Scale i am not sure how much do RBI or Goverment jobs would map to. Also what is your take on GMAT ?
Government Jobs have high Basic pay and in hand varies from 25-45/50k .. But we should also take into account benefits govt jobs bring with them wrt to logding , travel etc ..
The best option is off course an MBA FT any day but since you are not willing to let go of your current job due to financial conditions , this a good alternative :)
PS: You want a career switch , then sacrifices are needed to be made :)
PPS: Going for CFA Certification can be an alternative too
CAT2011 (1st season): 97.21 %ile Calls: IIMK, new IIMs, MDI, XIMB Converts: XIMB only :banghead:
Now this is a serious dilemma I'm in: 1-XIMB is a good option any day and can be taken up (first option); 2-You can do better! Give it another shot (second option- of which i am oft reminded by friends). On the one hand, CAT being super-unpredictable now leading to apprehensions about retaking it; on the other hand, the belief that with work-ex and a good score I can make it big as I have a decent profile to support me. I, personally, am torn between the two options and have been oscillating between them for forever now.
Regarding my background and profile, I'm a B.Tech fresher from an NIT (just graduated), Grad GPA -8.26/10 10th & 12th-95.6 and 88.4 respectively (CBSE) Have a job offer at an IT consultancy.
Now what on earth do I do? I know it's finally up to me, but sometimes the unpredictability of CAT scares me from gearing up to give it another shot. But then I really want an IIM (who doesn't ) or a top 10 insti at least.
Have to take a call soon, last day for XIMB fees withdrawal is fast approaching....HELP!!
Trust me, a year of work before an MBA will really open your mind up. Dont be a hurry to do an MBA, specially not with your profile. Infact this is what I have told a lot of my juniors from college(one of the oldest and most reputed engg colleges in the country, just like yours) as well, that dont do an MBA straight after graduation unless its from IIM ABC, FMS, XL, IIM L.
Secondly, the uncertainity with CAT is hyped. No one really understands normalisation, so people speculate that its flawed. As far as my experience goes, I've got practically the same CAT score twice and I am sure that normalisation has been done correctly in 2010 and 2011. So trust yourself to do well, and you will. 97 to 99.5+ is achievable if you work hard and work smart
Remember, "He who doesn't throw the dice will never get a six"
im sorry if sound stupid with this question I am currently working. Im the only source of income of my family If suppose i get to join the iim's(off-course impossible),will the iim's provide any stipend. Will they allow the students to work part time or even full time?? pls reply
I would like to differ from the others. People have a wrong perception of XIMB that it is just a notch below. However, many companies (including mine) treat XIMB as tier1 school. Also, a friend of mine got into Goldman Sachs this yr. Unless you are aiming for top 4 IIMs, it won't make much of a difference. If you are looking for 'tag', then aim for top 6 IIMs, XL, SP and MDI. But most of the job offers that you would get from these instis, you will get from XIMB as well.
I somehow knew this in the back of my mind but several factors (discussion forums elsewhere and on pg, several rankings) led me to believe otherwise. The latest Business Standards/IMRB gradings reiterated the standing of XIMB.
But then if it were treated as tier1, wouldn't that reflect in the placements? I mean if companies look at certain institutes to be in the same category, wouldn't they provide the same profiles and packages to them? Talking of profiles, is it true that only students from the very top institutes get 'front-end' roles (whatever that is- I'm a fresher, not much idea ) whereas others get back-end roles.
Seeing your profile and what you scored this season, i strongly believe that you should go for another attempt and you will land at better places next year. 😃 In the meantime, join IT consulting and add value to your profile in terms of work ex as well. :)
Cheers!
Hi, thanks a lot for the advice. My only doubt now: I'll become one of the many Engg+IT guys, one of the many in the crowd... Will it be a serious deterrent to my profile? I mean both during bschool selection and during placements in bschool?
Since I do not have core job offer,I want to work for IIT coaching faculty(Pet pooja).Now the problem is that whether it's work experience will be considered or not??If I qualify CFA L-1 and 2 and/or NCFM,will that somehow help my candidature. Some people are saying that faculty member work experience will hamper my pathways to IIM-ABC,XL etc.What should I do??Or should I go for JRF in some institute?? I have already dropped 1 year.So getting a job now is veryt necessary/must for me.
I personally know people who have taught at coaching institutes full time and have made it to top schools. It may not be the best form of work ex, but its better than doing nothing. JRF is also a good option, but I guess you'l make more money at a coaching institute, is it ? If the money is not too important to you, definately go for JFR.
In the meanwhile, go ahead with all the professional certifications that you mentioned, they will certainly help.
) marks in grad and post grad ... ATB to ur bro !!
) or a top 10 insti at least.
) whereas others get back-end roles. 
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